Re: How Fedora chose me

2009-09-16 Thread gilpel
Paul wrote: > For me, it's the only one to use - albeit rawhide has had it's > moments... like at one point if yum died during the update due to the > machine locking, the next boot would render an almost useless box... Don't forget that Rawhide is for people who want to be bleeding edge and wish

Re: How Fedora chose me

2009-09-16 Thread gilpel
RAhul Sundaram wrote: > On 09/16/2009 05:18 AM, gil...@altern.org wrote: > >> >> This said, it seems that Debian sometimes reacts faster than Fedora. >> Whereas LiVES is still, as far as I know, a bug report/wishlist in >> Fedora, >> the other distro has it included for the next release: > > That'

Re: How Fedora chose me

2009-09-16 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Wednesday 16 September 2009 01:25 AM, davide wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote: Wanted to remind of some counter examples, * Xubuntu 9.04 @ work: Firefox 3.0 Thunderbird 2.0 Pidgin 2.5.5 (supports only IMs) Emacs 22.2 * Fedora 11 @ home

Re: How Fedora chose me

2009-09-16 Thread Tim
Tim: >> Perhaps what's wanted, versus what's simply available? davide > I can agree, but I think there are pieces of software that are more > that just available but that are not in fedora. > One I can point out now is the vim-latexsuite. It's very simple to > install, i agree, but it's simpler an

Re: How Fedora chose me

2009-09-16 Thread davide
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > Wanted to remind of some counter examples, > * Xubuntu 9.04 @ work: >        Firefox 3.0 >        Thunderbird 2.0 >        Pidgin 2.5.5 (supports only IMs) >        Emacs 22.2 > * Fedora 11 @ home: >        Firefox 3.5.3 >        Thunderbird 3.

Re: How Fedora chose me

2009-09-16 Thread Joerg Bergmann
Am Mittwoch, den 16.09.2009, 00:23 -0700 schrieb Suvayu Ali: > On Tuesday 15 September 2009 04:48 PM, gil...@altern.org wrote: > > Davide wrote: > > > > This said, it seems that Debian sometimes reacts faster than Fedora. > > Whereas LiVES is still, as far as I know, a bug report/wishlist in Fedor

Re: How Fedora chose me

2009-09-16 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Tuesday 15 September 2009 04:48 PM, gil...@altern.org wrote: Davide wrote: This said, it seems that Debian sometimes reacts faster than Fedora. Whereas LiVES is still, as far as I know, a bug report/wishlist in Fedora, the other distro has it included for the next release: http://packages.ub

Re: How Fedora chose me

2009-09-15 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/16/2009 05:18 AM, gil...@altern.org wrote: > > This said, it seems that Debian sometimes reacts faster than Fedora. > Whereas LiVES is still, as far as I know, a bug report/wishlist in Fedora, > the other distro has it included for the next release: That's a bad example. LiVES is not in an

Re: How Fedora chose me

2009-09-15 Thread Tomek Chrzczonowicz
> I was not counting packages in getdeb or ppa, I simply prefere not use > them, if I don't know the sources... I didn't imply that you counted them. I meant that packages in universe are generally not updated to the latest upstream versions, which in and of itself is fine as long as they're maint

Re: How Fedora chose me

2009-09-15 Thread Paul
Hi, > > I'm as far from a geek as anybody can be, but I certainly appreciate that > > Fedora chose me. > Using Fedora I've never looked back, it just works. I must say, having been with RedHat since pre version 1 (go bootstrapping!), I've seen many ups and downs in the stability and speed of

Re: How Fedora chose me

2009-09-15 Thread gilpel
Davide wrote: > I just wonder why repositories offers "so few" with respect (to) "the > other distro" Beside all the good reasons that have already been given, the utmostly "community" spirit of Debian must be considered. People take a lot of pride in being Debian developers. So, even though a pa

Re: How Fedora chose me

2009-09-15 Thread davide
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> have you a pointer to a wiki explaining how I can help? > > If you want to package software, look at > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Join > > If you want to help out with reviews, > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Pack

Re: How Fedora chose me

2009-09-15 Thread davide
2009/9/15 Tomek Chrzczonowicz : > In my personal experience it is somewhat less grandoise. > > IIRC, majority of the packages is simply snapshotted from Debian Sid and > only a fraction of packages is maintained and supported by Canonical > (the "main" repo). > > The rest (the "universe") often has

Re: How Fedora chose me

2009-09-15 Thread Tomek Chrzczonowicz
> > I know, I was looking for some "raw" data, like source packages to try > > to extrapolate more accurate data. > > but a gap of more than 10k binary packages gives the idea. > In my personal experience it is somewhat less grandoise. IIRC, majority of the packages is simply snapshotted from De

Re: How Fedora chose me

2009-09-15 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/15/2009 06:11 PM, davide wrote: >>If >> Packages in Fedora are maintained in a voluntary basis. Every new >> package has to go through a review process for sanity checks. If you are >> interested, you can join by either packaging up the software you are >> missing out or reviewing dozens and

Re: How Fedora chose me

2009-09-15 Thread davide
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 09/15/2009 04:43 PM, davide wrote: > >> >> I just wonder why repositories offers "so few" with respect "the other >> distro". >> I mean, last time I checked there was a 10k+ packages difference. >> I suppose a big part is very specific s

Re: How Fedora chose me

2009-09-15 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/15/2009 04:43 PM, davide wrote: > > I just wonder why repositories offers "so few" with respect "the other > distro". > I mean, last time I checked there was a 10k+ packages difference. > I suppose a big part is very specific software not so popular, but > still the difference is impressiv

Re: How Fedora chose me

2009-09-15 Thread davide
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Tim wrote: > On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 13:13 +0200, davide wrote: >> I just wonder why repositories offers "so few" with respect "the other >> distro".  I mean, last time I checked there was a 10k+ packages >> difference. > > Perhaps what's wanted, versus what's simply

Re: How Fedora chose me

2009-09-15 Thread davide
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > davide wrote: > >> I just wonder why repositories offers "so few" with respect "the other >> distro". I mean, last time I checked there was a 10k+ packages difference. > > What is "the other distro"? > ubuntu. I checked with the karmic repo

Re: How Fedora chose me

2009-09-15 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 13:13 +0200, davide wrote: > I just wonder why repositories offers "so few" with respect "the other > distro". I mean, last time I checked there was a 10k+ packages > difference. Perhaps what's wanted, versus what's simply available? -- The gates in my computer are AND, O

Re: How Fedora chose me

2009-09-15 Thread Timothy Murphy
davide wrote: > I just wonder why repositories offers "so few" with respect "the other > distro". I mean, last time I checked there was a 10k+ packages difference. What is "the other distro"? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: Schoo

Re: How Fedora chose me

2009-09-15 Thread davide
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:17 AM, James Bridge wrote: > My impression is that Fedora is now getting very good. Over the last > couple of years my main gripe has been over audio (sound recorder was > useless and recent problems playing sound files) but the latest kernel > upgrade seems to have remo

Re: How Fedora chose me

2009-09-15 Thread James Bridge
My impression is that Fedora is now getting very good. Over the last couple of years my main gripe has been over audio (sound recorder was useless and recent problems playing sound files) but the latest kernel upgrade seems to have removed the last of (several?) bugs and it all works beautifully. A

Re: How Fedora chose me

2009-09-14 Thread Roger
I'm as far from a geek as anybody can be, but I certainly appreciate that Fedora chose me. Using Fedora I've never looked back, it just works. Do the updates as soon as they come in and it should be fine, it is for me. Yum is the update manager, it works. If you're worried about security a

Re: How Fedora chose me

2009-09-14 Thread Robin Price II
Thanks for the great read. Hope you enjoy Fedora! :) -- Robin On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:52 PM, wrote: > I just saw that the "Guess who's right behind Ubuntu at Distrowatch" has > been continuing as some learned Fedora vs Ubuntu debate. Since I deleted > those messages, I have to start a new t

How Fedora chose me

2009-09-14 Thread gilpel
I just saw that the "Guess who's right behind Ubuntu at Distrowatch" has been continuing as some learned Fedora vs Ubuntu debate. Since I deleted those messages, I have to start a new thread. Countrary to most people here, I'm not very tech savvy. All I want is my distro to work. I have a certain