Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-06 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 16:07 -0400, Claude Jones wrote: > *click on teardrop > *after second horizontal bar appears, hover over the upper one in > the middle till your cursor turns into a double-arrow > *drag the upper bar up or down and the panel will adjust itself > to the space between the bot

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-06 Thread Claude Jones
On Mon October 6 2008 3:42:36 pm John W. Linville wrote: > That does work, thanks! > > Of course, I give the usability people a wet noodle for that > one... :-) along with the vertical resizing method --- *click on teardrop *after second horizontal bar appears, hover over the upper one in the m

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-06 Thread John W. Linville
On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 07:19:21PM +0100, Steve Searle wrote: > Around 04:07pm on Monday, October 06, 2008 (UK time), John W. Linville > scrawled: > > > And how do you control their location within the panel? Mine seem > > to pick where the want to be and you have to just accept it. > > Left cl

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-06 Thread Steve Searle
Around 04:07pm on Monday, October 06, 2008 (UK time), John W. Linville scrawled: > And how do you control their location within the panel? Mine seem > to pick where the want to be and you have to just accept it. Left click on the "teardrop" at the extreme right of the panel. Move the cursor ove

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-06 Thread John W. Linville
On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 04:38:13PM -0400, Linuxguy123 wrote: > I don't "get" KDE4. The big thing I missed from KDE3 was a desktop with > real folders on it that I could drag and drop to my heart's content. > KDE has "folder view" that one can use to display a folder and one can > put the icon for

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-06 Thread John W. Linville
On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 08:26:35PM +, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Dave Feustel mindspring.com> writes: > > Put icons for launching xterm and konqueror on the upper or lower panel. > > Simply drag and drop the menu entry from the Kickoff or classic menu to the > panel. And how do you control their

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-05 Thread Claude Jones
On Sat October 4 2008 8:04:32 pm Dave Feustel wrote: > I used konsole for quite a while, but I experienced wierd behavior that > seemed to target konsole. I switched to xterm after konsole began > starting up with non-stop repeating of 'i' on the command line even > when I wasn't touching the keybo

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-05 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:57 AM, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Arthur Pemberton gmail.com> writes: > >> What exactly are you trying to do that you can't do? > > If you plug in a USBkey will an icon pop up on the desktop in KDE4? It pops up on the device manager in the lower right corner. --

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-05 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 04 October 2008 23:05, Craig White wrote: > Mini-applications that were formally known as desk accessories like > calculators and stuff were relegated to applications and thus required > more effort to launch. > > KDE and it's plasmoids are returning these 'widgets' to a functional > sp

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-05 Thread Joonas Sarajärvi
2008/10/5 Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Arthur Pemberton gmail.com> writes: > >> What exactly are you trying to do that you can't do? > > If you plug in a USBkey will an icon pop up on the desktop in KDE4? > It won't but that doesn't prevent anyone from using USB storage devices. Dolphin shows the

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-05 Thread Mike
Arthur Pemberton gmail.com> writes: > What exactly are you trying to do that you can't do? If you plug in a USBkey will an icon pop up on the desktop in KDE4? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: h

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 22:30 -0400, Dave Feustel wrote: > On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 07:02:46PM -0700, Craig White wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 18:10 -0400, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > > On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 16:05 -0700, Craig White wrote: > > > > I personally feel that the 'folder view' widget is a wa

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 07:02:46PM -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 18:10 -0400, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 16:05 -0700, Craig White wrote: > > > I personally feel that the 'folder view' widget is a waste of energy > > > and > > > of no real value and just resort

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 18:10 -0400, Linuxguy123 wrote: > On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 16:05 -0700, Craig White wrote: > > I personally feel that the 'folder view' widget is a waste of energy > > and > > of no real value and just resort to using Dolphin and in fact, moved > > all > > of the files and folder

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Saturday 04 October 2008 08:53:01 pm Dave Feustel wrote: > On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 03:44:50PM -0600, kwhiskerz wrote: > > Dave Feustel wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 01:32:22PM -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > >> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Linuxguy123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> wro

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 03:44:50PM -0600, kwhiskerz wrote: > Dave Feustel wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 01:32:22PM -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Linuxguy123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> > There is and has been a lot of grumbling about KDE4 from

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 07:10:40PM -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 11:45:36PM +, Kevin Kofler wrote: > >> Dave Feustel mindspring.com> writes: > >> > Neither xterm nor konqueror is in the menu

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Linuxguy123
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 20:04 -0400, Dave Feustel wrote: > On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 11:45:36PM +, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Dave Feustel mindspring.com> writes: > > > Neither xterm nor konqueror is in the menu list as far as I can tell. > > > > Konqueror is definitely in the menu! > > > > As for

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Linuxguy123
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 16:05 -0700, Craig White wrote: > I personally feel that the 'folder view' widget is a waste of energy > and > of no real value and just resort to using Dolphin and in fact, moved > all > of the files and folders off my desktop and just keep a couple of > 'launchers' there. It

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 11:45:36PM +, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> Dave Feustel mindspring.com> writes: >> > Neither xterm nor konqueror is in the menu list as far as I can tell. >> >> Konqueror is definitely in the menu! >> >

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread kwhiskerz
Dave Feustel wrote: > On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 01:32:22PM -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Linuxguy123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > There is and has been a lot of grumbling about KDE4 from a number of >> > people including myself. On the other hand, some peo

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 11:45:36PM +, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Dave Feustel mindspring.com> writes: > > Neither xterm nor konqueror is in the menu list as far as I can tell. > > Konqueror is definitely in the menu! > > As for xterm, if it isn't listed in the menu, that's a bug in the xterm > p

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Dave Feustel mindspring.com> writes: > Neither xterm nor konqueror is in the menu list as far as I can tell. Konqueror is definitely in the menu! As for xterm, if it isn't listed in the menu, that's a bug in the xterm package, please file a bug in Bugzilla, all GUI programs are supposed to be

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Linuxguy123 gmail.com> writes: > Its like we added a layer of complexity (ie using folder > view and having to use an icon on the desktop to represent the folder) Huh? The whole point of the folder view plasmoid is to represent the contents of the folder directly on the desktop. Kevin K

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Marko Vojinovic panet.co.yu> writes: > How about auto-hiding the panel? It takes precious space on my 12" notebook > screen. This has been implemented in the upcoming KDE 4.2. We are considering backporting this to the KDE 4.1 packages in Fedora 10 and in an upcoming Fedora 9 update. (I'm pro

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 16:38 -0400, Linuxguy123 wrote: > I don't "get" KDE4. The big thing I missed from KDE3 was a desktop with > real folders on it that I could drag and drop to my heart's content. > KDE has "folder view" that one can use to display a folder and one can > put the icon for a fold

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Linuxguy123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 21:14 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> It is obvious that KDE4 is meant to be used with a different mindset >> (no icons >> on the desktop, desktop is not a folder, everything you can see is a >> window

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Linuxguy123
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 21:14 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > It is obvious that KDE4 is meant to be used with a different mindset > (no icons > on the desktop, desktop is not a folder, everything you can see is a > window > or a widget, etc...), but the question is actually *why* is it > differen

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Mail Lists
On 10/04/2008 04:53 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Saturday 04 October 2008 19:45, Dave Feustel wrote: > > Open Kickoff (right-click the "f" button on the panel, make sure to select > "kickoff meny style"), browse to xterm (or konqueror), right-click on it and > select "add to panel". I've also

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 09:14:49PM +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Saturday 04 October 2008 18:32, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Linuxguy123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > There is and has been a lot of grumbling about KDE4 from a number of > > > people including

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 08:53:32PM +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Saturday 04 October 2008 19:45, Dave Feustel wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 01:32:22PM -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Linuxguy123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > There is and has b

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 04 October 2008 18:32, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Linuxguy123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is and has been a lot of grumbling about KDE4 from a number of > > people including myself. On the other hand, some people think its > > great. > > > > I c

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 04 October 2008 19:45, Dave Feustel wrote: > On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 01:32:22PM -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Linuxguy123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > There is and has been a lot of grumbling about KDE4 from a number of > > > people including m

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 08:26:35PM +, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Dave Feustel mindspring.com> writes: > > Put icons for launching xterm and konqueror on the upper or lower panel. > > Simply drag and drop the menu entry from the Kickoff or classic menu to the > panel. Neither xterm nor konqueror

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Dave Feustel mindspring.com> writes: > I do not know how to view youtube or flash on 64-bit F9. > How is it done? It can be done with nspluginwrapper. Or you can try gnash or swfdec, which are actually Free Software. But many of the videos you're looking for (KDE 4 demos/tutorials) can be find

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Dave Feustel mindspring.com> writes: > Put icons for launching xterm and konqueror on the upper or lower panel. Simply drag and drop the menu entry from the Kickoff or classic menu to the panel. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://ww

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 07:53:47PM +0100, Colin J Thomson wrote: > > On Saturday 04 October 2008 19:36:02 ANOOP wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Linuxguy123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > There is and has been a lot of grumbling about KDE4 from a number of > > > people including myself

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 01:32:22PM -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Linuxguy123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is and has been a lot of grumbling about KDE4 from a number of > > people including myself. On the other hand, some people think its > > great. > >

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Colin J Thomson
On Saturday 04 October 2008 19:36:02 ANOOP wrote: > On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Linuxguy123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is and has been a lot of grumbling about KDE4 from a number of > > people including myself. On the other hand, some people think its > > great. > > > > I can't help

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Vandaman
Linuxguy123 wrote: > > I can't help but wonder if I am missing something > on how its supposed to > > be used. Is there a guide or website that has a > little tutorial > > somewhere ? Get yourself a cup of coffee and point your browser to http://www.kde.org/whatiskde/ Look at the guides, and fee

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread ANOOP
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Linuxguy123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is and has been a lot of grumbling about KDE4 from a number of > people including myself. On the other hand, some people think its > great. > > I can't help but wonder if I am missing something on how its supposed to >

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Linuxguy123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is and has been a lot of grumbling about KDE4 from a number of > people including myself. On the other hand, some people think its > great. > > I can't help but wonder if I am missing something on how its supposed to >

How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Linuxguy123
There is and has been a lot of grumbling about KDE4 from a number of people including myself. On the other hand, some people think its great. I can't help but wonder if I am missing something on how its supposed to be used. Is there a guide or website that has a little tutorial somewhere ? Than