Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

> > I have been away for a week and during that week I upgraded my home system > to KDE 4.2 and found that it installed Akonadi and now I get error messages > every time I log in. I have been to busy to look at this though. > > On the other hand. KDE 4.2 does require Akonadi. Try to remove it fr

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Mark Haney wrote: Martín Marqués wrote: 2009/2/16 Mark Haney : Martín Marqués wrote: 2009/2/16 Arthur Pemberton : On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Martín Marqués wrote: IMHO, this is the beginning of the end of KDE Because some portions of it require a free database engine? Seriousl

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Rex Dieter wrote: >> Kinda sorta, but it still needs to be a per-user thing at the moment: >> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/PIM/Akonadi#Akonadi_FAQ > > The Akonadi server needs to be per user, but I think the MySQL database can > be shared.

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Rex Dieter wrote: > Kinda sorta, but it still needs to be a per-user thing at the moment: > http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/PIM/Akonadi#Akonadi_FAQ The Akonadi server needs to be per user, but I think the MySQL database can be shared. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-lis

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On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: > Arthur Pemberton wrote: > >> Since you already have a centralized system, is not feasible to just >> have akonadi point to a central database? It seems like what it was >> designed for, but I don't know, I am just asking. > > Kinda sorta, but it

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Arthur Pemberton wrote: > Since you already have a centralized system, is not feasible to just > have akonadi point to a central database? It seems like what it was > designed for, but I don't know, I am just asking. Kinda sorta, but it still needs to be a per-user thing at the moment: http://tec

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On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 11:09 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > > On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 07:51 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: > > >> But, that doesn't address the size issue. Wow, confirmed, my akonadi dir > >> is > >> ~163M. ouchie. Looks like another TODO item to look into. > > >

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On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:41 AM, David Jansen wrote: > We are running into the same problem here. Why is it a problem? Not the > disk space taken up by mysqld or the little bit of cpu time it > takes. But the diskspace on the user's home directories. We have a > shared home disk here for > 200 peo

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Craig White wrote: > On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 07:51 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: >> But, that doesn't address the size issue. Wow, confirmed, my akonadi dir >> is >> ~163M. ouchie. Looks like another TODO item to look into. > > you're sort of tossing fuel on the fire but consider... > > # du -s

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On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 07:51 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: > David Jansen wrote: > > > We are running into the same problem here. Why is it a problem? Not the > > disk space taken up by mysqld or the little bit of cpu time it > > takes. But the diskspace on the user's home directories. We have a > > sha

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

David Jansen wrote: > We are running into the same problem here. Why is it a problem? Not the > disk space taken up by mysqld or the little bit of cpu time it > takes. But the diskspace on the user's home directories. We have a > shared home disk here for > 200 people, each has disk quota of 0.5 -

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

We are running into the same problem here. Why is it a problem? Not the disk space taken up by mysqld or the little bit of cpu time it takes. But the diskspace on the user's home directories. We have a shared home disk here for > 200 people, each has disk quota of 0.5 - 1 GB and akonadi's database

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Tim wrote: On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 18:59 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote: Because with a firewall up, an attacker would need to already have access to the machine... Configuring services properly is security. A firewall is a last ditch attempt to stop fire spreading throughout a system. If you m

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 18:59 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > Because with a firewall up, an attacker would need to already have > access to the machine... Configuring services properly is security. A firewall is a last ditch attempt to stop fire spreading throughout a system. If you manage to by

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > Aldo Foot wrote: >>> Ok, bare with me awhile, but ... why? Or are you securing against >>> users who turn off their firewall? > > I think Aldo means "bear with me". TOTALLY different connotation, > there, Aldo! :-) LOL! that cracked me up!!

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Aldo Foot wrote: >> So you're suggesting that because you have a firewall it's ok to >> have accounts without passwords? My sense of system security is >> very different from your own... so maybe it's ok with you. >> BTW - the accounts I was r

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Aldo Foot wrote: > So you're suggesting that because you have a firewall it's ok to > have accounts without passwords? My sense of system security is > very different from your own... so maybe it's ok with you. > BTW - the accounts I was referring to are those created by mysql, which > are differen

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Aldo Foot wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Aldo Foot wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Arthur Pemberton wrote: I have yet to see what is so special about MySQL that makes having it such a big issue. If anything at all:

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Aldo Foot wrote: > If anything at all: default accounts must be deleted or secured with > passwords. The stuff Akonadi starts up is secured to only allow access to Akonadi running as the current user. MySQL is set up to listen on a Unix socket which is only accessible by the current user, not on a

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Aldo Foot wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Arthur Pemberton wrote: >>> I have yet to see what is so special about MySQL that makes having it >>> such a big issue. >> >> If anything at all: defa

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Aldo Foot wrote: > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Arthur Pemberton wrote: >> I have yet to see what is so special about MySQL that makes having it >> such a big issue. > > If anything at all: default accounts must be deleted or secured with > passwords. Ok, b

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 07:54 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 15:02 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > I have yet to see what is so special about MySQL that makes having it > such a big issue. If anything at all: default accounts must be deleted or secured with passwords. ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubs

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On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 07:54 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 15:02 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan > >> wrote: > >> > >>> On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 08:55 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: > >>>

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 15:02 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan >> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 08:55 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: >>> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > My re

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 15:02 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 08:55 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: > >> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >> > >> > My reading was that he worried about *non-KDE* apps doing similar things

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Em Qua 18 Fev 2009, Kevin Kofler escreveu: > Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > > I don't have it running here, nor MySQL, and I use almost all > > kdepim apps, including kabc. > > If this is F9, then you're still using kdepim 3.5, so it's no wonder > you aren't actually using Akonadi yet. > >

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 08:55 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: >> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> >> > My reading was that he worried about *non-KDE* apps doing similar things >> > without any interaction with Akonadi. >> > >> > So there are now t

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Mauriat wrote: > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:32 AM, Arthur Pemberton wrote: >> >> I have yet to see what is so special about MySQL that makes having it >> such a big issue. >> > > Just a thought: what about issues on netbooks or flash based computers? > > -Mauriat

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 08:55 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: >> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> >> > My reading was that he worried about *non-KDE* apps doing similar >> > things without any interaction with Akonadi. >> > >> > So there are now two independant databases, one in

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 08:55 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > My reading was that he worried about *non-KDE* apps doing similar things > > without any interaction with Akonadi. > > > > So there are now two independant databases, one in KDE and one in Gnome. > > Those of

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:32 AM, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > I have yet to see what is so special about MySQL that makes having it > such a big issue. > Just a thought: what about issues on netbooks or flash based computers? -Mauriat -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubs

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > My reading was that he worried about *non-KDE* apps doing similar things > without any interaction with Akonadi. > > So there are now two independant databases, one in KDE and one in Gnome. > Those of us who use a mixture of apps are running both of them. If it matt

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 10:34 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Tuesday 17 February 2009 06:33:14 Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Ed Greshko wrote: > > > When I have more time I will look at it... However, I doubt that each > > > application will spawn a new instance of mysql since that would > > > certainly d

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Tuesday 17 February 2009 06:33:14 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > > When I have more time I will look at it... However, I doubt that each > > application will spawn a new instance of mysql since that would > > certainly defeat the purpose of a centralized database. Looking at what >

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Tuesday 17 February 2009 06:12:51 Jay Mistry wrote: > >> > Linux bloat continues unabated. > >> > >> > >> I think... > >> > >> - that you would have to have kde-pim package installed to bloat here > >> > >> - agreed on bloat but considering that my Acer Aspire One is 10 Gb > >> Windows inst

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > I have yet to see what is so special about MySQL that makes having it > such a big issue. > FUD? -- improperly oriented keyboard mei-mei.gres...@greshko.com http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=cCSz_koUhSg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Anoop wrote: > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: >>> I don't have it running here, nor MySQL, and I use almost all kdepim >>> apps, including kabc. >> >> If this is F9, then you're still using kdepim 3.5, so it'

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: >> I don't have it running here, nor MySQL, and I use almost all kdepim >> apps, including kabc. > > If this is F9, then you're still using kdepim 3.5, so it's no wonder you > aren't actually using Akonadi yet. I

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > I don't have it running here, nor MySQL, and I use almost all kdepim > apps, including kabc. If this is F9, then you're still using kdepim 3.5, so it's no wonder you aren't actually using Akonadi yet. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@r

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Em Ter 17 Fev 2009, Patrick O'Callaghan escreveu: > On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 02:38 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > > Well, you learn something new every day. I was searching for > > > Kabc, > > > > not > > > > > kabc. > > > > I didn't think yum search was case-sensitive, that may be a bug. > > I

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: > If MySQL is installed, this also means that self-compiled software > automatically finds the MySQL installation and compiles in support > for MySQL and links with MySQL libraries. Only if you have mysql-devel installed, which is not dragged in by KDE. They can't link

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Arthur Pemberton wrote: > By your comment one would think that installing mysql-server brings > some great evil with it. For a typical installation of a "desktop workstation", none of the packages in the "Servers" section needs to added. Makes sense. There's no need for so-called servers on a

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Tuesday 17 February 2009 03:24:00 kmadananteshwar.vb...@gmail.com wrote: > Thanx ann > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > By now you will have read the extra information from Kevin. You can easily choose not to use akonadi. You can't avoid having mysqld installed, but it shouldn't cause any p

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Kevin Kofler wrote: > Colin J Thomson - G6AVK wrote: >> Well if I am not mistaken Kabc is using it, I am not sure if it is set to >> use Kabc initially as default, Rex, Kevin? > > Actually I think Akonadi is simply set up to autostart as a service, no > matter whether you actually have stuff usin

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Tuesday 17 February 2009 02:38:26 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 21:35 +, Colin J Thomson - G6AVK wrote: > > Well if I am not mistaken Kabc is using it, I am not sure if it is > > set to use > > Kabc initially as default, Rex, Kevin? but I use it (for testing > > purpose

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Monday 16 February 2009 20:59:05 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 20:33 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > > You could always stop akonadi then do a Save Session, but something must > > be using it, or you have started it through systemsettings, if that's > > possible, so be careful t

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > By your comment one would think that installing mysql-server brings > some great evil with it. Maybe not that bad, but one might legitimately feel dirty because of it, anyway. In a similar case for me, I had a web server which was fully d

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 07:36 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Colin J Thomson - G6AVK wrote: > > Well if I am not mistaken Kabc is using it, I am not sure if it is set to > > use Kabc initially as default, Rex, Kevin? > > Actually I think Akonadi is simply set up to autostart as a service, no > matter

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 02:38 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > Well, you learn something new every day. I was searching for Kabc, > not > > kabc. > > I didn't think yum search was case-sensitive, that may be a bug. I didn't use yum search. To absolutely sure, I used 'locate Kabc'. Of course I sh

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 22:44 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan >> wrote: >> > On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 21:35 +, Colin J Thomson - G6AVK wrote: >> >> Well if I am not mistaken Kabc

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Mark Haney wrote: > And yes akonadi does require MySWL, but KDE 4.2 does NOT require > akonadi. So my point is still very valid. KDE 4.2 as provided by upstream does not even *compile* without Akonadi! Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: http

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Ed Greshko wrote: > When I have more time I will look at it... However, I doubt that each > application will spawn a new instance of mysql since that would > certainly defeat the purpose of a centralized database. Looking at what > little documentation I have...I am confident that it is one insta

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Martín Marqués wrote: > They could have used some lighter database engine, like sqlite. They tried. It didn't work for them. The alternatives they had were trying to get SQLite fixed and delaying Akonadi for a couple years or just using MySQL which works now. I can't really blame them for their de

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: > In Fedora 10, akonadi cannot be un-installed without removing KDE. > And KDE cannot be updated to version 4.2 without updating akonadi > as well. In the end, KDE 4.2 requires MySQL (server) to be installed. And where's the problem? It doesn't use much disk space and y

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Colin J Thomson - G6AVK wrote: > Well if I am not mistaken Kabc is using it, I am not sure if it is set to > use Kabc initially as default, Rex, Kevin? Actually I think Akonadi is simply set up to autostart as a service, no matter whether you actually have stuff using it or not. Kevin Kof

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Clemens Eisserer wrote: > Sorry for that off-topic question, but have the KDE4.2 packages > already been released for regular online update (for F10) Yes. > or are they still in testing? No. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.re

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>> > Linux bloat continues unabated. >> >> >> I think... >> >> - that you would have to have kde-pim package installed to bloat here >> >> - agreed on bloat but considering that my Acer Aspire One is 10 Gb >> Windows installation and 5 Gb Fedora 10 and I have a lot more 'stuff' >> installed in

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 22:44 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 21:35 +, Colin J Thomson - G6AVK wrote: > >> Well if I am not mistaken Kabc is using it, I am not sure if it is > >> set to use > >> Kabc initia

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 21:35 +, Colin J Thomson - G6AVK wrote: >> Well if I am not mistaken Kabc is using it, I am not sure if it is >> set to use >> Kabc initially as default, Rex, Kevin? but I use it (for testing >> purposes) >> w

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Thanx ann Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel -Original Message- From: Anne Wilson Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:42:35 To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 21:35 +, Colin J Thomson - G6AVK wrote: > Well if I am not mistaken Kabc is using it, I am not sure if it is > set to use > Kabc initially as default, Rex, Kevin? but I use it (for testing > purposes) > with Kabc: > > 2560 /usr/bin/akonadi_control > 2562 akonadiserver

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: > Mark Haney wrote: > > > And yes akonadi does require MySWL, but KDE 4.2 does NOT require > > akonadi. So my point is still very valid. > > In Fedora 10, akonadi cannot be un-installed without removing KDE. > And KDE cannot be upda

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Mark Haney wrote: > And yes akonadi does require MySWL, but KDE 4.2 does NOT require > akonadi. So my point is still very valid. In Fedora 10, akonadi cannot be un-installed without removing KDE. And KDE cannot be updated to version 4.2 without updating akonadi as well. In the end, KDE 4.2 r

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 14:06 -0500, Mark Haney wrote: > As for all the comments about KDE being 'Vista' I'd like to point out > that GNOME uses Beagle (if I recall) which is very similar to Akonadi. *Can* use Beagle, if you install it, if you want to. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.12-78.2

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Monday 16 February 2009 20:59:05 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 20:33 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > > You could always stop akonadi then do a Save Session, but something must > > be using it, or you have started it through systemsettings, if that's > > possible, so be careful t

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Sorry for that off-topic question, but have the KDE4.2 packages already been released for regular online update (for F10), or are they still in testing? Thanks, Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelin

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 20:33 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > You could always stop akonadi then do a Save Session, but something must be > using it, or you have started it through systemsettings, if that's possible, > so be careful that you are not going to break something you want. Anne, I also have

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Monday 16 February 2009 20:22:37 Martín Marqués wrote: > 2009/2/16 Mark Haney : > > Martín Marqués wrote: > >> Please, enlight me. How can akonadi work without a mysql instance? > >> > >> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/PIM/Akonadi#Which_DBMS_does_Akonadi_use > >>.3F > >> > >> BTW, is there a w

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009/2/16 Mark Haney : > Martín Marqués wrote: >> >> Please, enlight me. How can akonadi work without a mysql instance? >> >> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/PIM/Akonadi#Which_DBMS_does_Akonadi_use.3F >> >> BTW, is there a way to disable akonadi and still work with KDE destop? >> > > And yes akona

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it was hidden behind a terminal window. I was going to go back and try > to figure out was it was all aboutbut subsequently forgot about it. > Your post did enlighten me as to what happened as I now recall seeing > "akonadi" at some point. > > But, I have been using the latest version of KDE f

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Monday 16 February 2009 16:44:03 Martín Marqués wrote: > 2009/2/15 Ed Greshko : > > Took a quick look at http://pim.kde.org/akonadi/ and on the surface > > seems like a reasonable direction/idea. So, not quite sure as to why > > you may consider this to be a big issue. > > They could have used

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Monday 16 February 2009 18:58:55 Martín Marqués wrote: > > BTW, is there a way to disable akonadi and still work with KDE destop? > Yes. I'm still looking forward to eventually benefitting from akonadi, but it's not for me at the moment. KOrganizer asks me if I want to put entries into an ak

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > > If a component you want requires a resource, it is, by definition, > necessary. Or are you using an alternate definition of necessary. No, that works for me, however, the OP mentions KDE4.2 /requiring/ MySQL. And, no it does not require it for every instance. But

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Martín Marqués wrote: > 2009/2/16 Arthur Pemberton : >> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Martín Marqués >> wrote: >>> >>> IMHO, this is the beginning of the end of KDE >> >> Because some portions of it require a free database engine? Seriously? > > Not becuase o

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Martín Marqués wrote: > 2009/2/16 Mark Haney : >> Martín Marqués wrote: >>> 2009/2/16 Arthur Pemberton : On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Martín Marqués wrote: > IMHO, this is the beginning of the end of KDE Because some portions of it require a free database engine? Seriously?

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Martín Marqués wrote: > 2009/2/16 Mark Haney : >> Martín Marqués wrote: >>> 2009/2/16 Arthur Pemberton : On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Martín Marqués wrote: > IMHO, this is the beginning of the end of KDE Because some portions of it require a free database engine? Seriously?

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009/2/16 Mark Haney : > Martín Marqués wrote: >> 2009/2/16 Arthur Pemberton : >>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Martín Marqués >>> wrote: IMHO, this is the beginning of the end of KDE >>> Because some portions of it require a free database engine? Seriously? >> >> Not becuase of that. Be

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Martín Marqués wrote: > 2009/2/16 Arthur Pemberton : >> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Martín Marqués >> wrote: >>> IMHO, this is the beginning of the end of KDE >> Because some portions of it require a free database engine? Seriously? > > Not becuase of that. Because it's starting to use reso

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009/2/16 Arthur Pemberton : > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Martín Marqués > wrote: >> >> IMHO, this is the beginning of the end of KDE > > Because some portions of it require a free database engine? Seriously? Not becuase of that. Because it's starting to use resources which are totally unn

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Martín Marqués wrote: > 2009/2/16 Rex Dieter : >> Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: >> >>> Ed Greshko wrote: >>> >>> > Took a quick look at http://pim.kde.org/akonadi/ and on the surface >>> > seems like a reasonable direction/idea. So, not quite sure as to why >>>

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009/2/16 Rex Dieter : > Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: > >> Ed Greshko wrote: >> >> > Took a quick look at http://pim.kde.org/akonadi/ and on the surface >> > seems like a reasonable direction/idea. So, not quite sure as to why >> > you may consider this to be a big issue. >> >> If every applica

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009/2/15 Ed Greshko : > > Took a quick look at http://pim.kde.org/akonadi/ and on the surface > seems like a reasonable direction/idea. So, not quite sure as to why > you may consider this to be a big issue. They could have used some lighter database engine, like sqlite. -- Martín Marqués sele

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > > > Took a quick look at http://pim.kde.org/akonadi/ and on the surface > > seems like a reasonable direction/idea. So, not quite sure as to why > > you may consider this to be a big issue. > > If every applications starts its own copy of m

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > > > Took a quick look at http://pim.kde.org/akonadi/ and on the surface > > seems like a reasonable direction/idea. So, not quite sure as to why > > you may consider this to be a big issue. > > If every applications starts its own copy of mys

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Ed Greshko wrote: > Took a quick look at http://pim.kde.org/akonadi/ and on the surface > seems like a reasonable direction/idea. So, not quite sure as to why > you may consider this to be a big issue. If every applications starts its own copy of mysql, then this is indeed a big issue becau

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Craig White wrote: > well I haven't gotten there yet but 'they' do read... > > http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/PIM/Akonadi#Deployment_issues Well, none of the issues with NFS are unsurmountable: > Multiple access: Should multiple Akonadi instances' mysqlds access a > single set of data files th

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Sun, 2009-02-15 at 17:15 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > > and apparently a real problem for people like me who use NFS for home > > directories > > "apparently" how? Are there verifiable/concrete problems here? well I haven't gotten there yet but 'they' do read... htt

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Craig White wrote: > and apparently a real problem for people like me who use NFS for home > directories "apparently" how? Are there verifiable/concrete problems here? -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-li

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Sun, 2009-02-15 at 22:11 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: > > Is there an easy way around it? An end-user desktop environment > > requires a full-blown local database to be setup and run. Wow, I > > didn't know that so many users are professional database admins > > and k

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: > Is there an easy way around it? An end-user desktop environment > requires a full-blown local database to be setup and run. Wow, I > didn't know that so many users are professional database admins > and know what to do. No KDE without MySQL. You don't have to configur

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Craig White wrote: > It does seem curious to me that they would have chosen MySQL instead of > SQLite http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/PIM/Akonadi#Why_not_use_sqlite.3F Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinf

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Sun, 2009-02-15 at 11:15 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Sunday 15 February 2009 04:14:05 Craig White wrote: > > On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 20:37 -0700, Jake Peavy wrote: > > > Linux bloat continues unabated. > > > > > > I think... > > > > - that you would have to have kde-pim package installed

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Sunday 15 February 2009 04:14:05 Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 20:37 -0700, Jake Peavy wrote: > > On 2/14/09, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > > Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: > > > most people with automatic updates might not have noticed, > > > > but if > > > >

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Jake Peavy wrote: > > > On 2/14/09, *Ed Greshko* > wrote: > > Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: > > > > > > most people with automatic updates might not have noticed, but if > > you look closer, the recent bunch of updates, including KDE 4.2, > > in

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Sun, 2009-02-15 at 11:31 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: > > > > > > most people with automatic updates might not have noticed, but if > > you look closer, the recent bunch of updates, including KDE 4.2, > > installs the MySQL server on the machine (and some other dat

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 20:37 -0700, Jake Peavy wrote: > > > On 2/14/09, Ed Greshko wrote: > Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: > > > > > > most people with automatic updates might not have noticed, > but if > > you look closer, the recent bunch of updates

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

On 2/14/09, Ed Greshko wrote: > > Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: > > > > > > most people with automatic updates might not have noticed, but if > > you look closer, the recent bunch of updates, including KDE 4.2, > > installs the MySQL server on the machine (and some other database > > related stuff w

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: > > > most people with automatic updates might not have noticed, but if > you look closer, the recent bunch of updates, including KDE 4.2, > installs the MySQL server on the machine (and some other database > related stuff which MySQL depends on). > > It's the "ak

KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

Hi folks, most people with automatic updates might not have noticed, but if you look closer, the recent bunch of updates, including KDE 4.2, installs the MySQL server on the machine (and some other database related stuff which MySQL depends on). It's the "akonadi" package that requires a

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