Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-07-22 Thread Deron Meranda
An update on this problem: First, I'm up to date on the latest kernel and X window packages. Again, I'm using the standard Fedora Radeon driver with all the default options. I'm also using the standard Gnome interface. Here's the strange thing I'm seeing. I don't know if this is just coinciden

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-07-09 Thread Deron Meranda
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Thomas Kappelmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I completely solved this problem by doing this: > "yum install xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd" I can't use the radeonhd driver because it doesn't support or detect my card. The radeonhd only detects R5xx/R6xx based cards, so

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-07-08 Thread Thomas Kappelmueller
Hello! I completely solved this problem by doing this: "yum install xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd" and changing the /etx/X11/xorg.conf file: From: Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "radeon" EndSection To: Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driv

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-07-02 Thread Steve Dowe
... Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" Well, it was a nice theory while it lasted, but unfortunately it didn't last that long. I had another hang this morning when moving a Windows window (in a RDP window connected to a MS box). I'll keep working on it! Same section, but using Option "DRI"

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-07-02 Thread Steve Dowe
Steve Dowe wrote: I think I have the answer (below). ... Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" Well, it was a nice theory while it lasted, but unfortunately it didn't last that long. I had another hang this morning when moving a Windows window (in a RDP window connected to a MS box). I'll keep wo

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-07-01 Thread Steve Dowe
I think I have the answer (below). Deron Meranda wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Steve Dowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://shaver.off.net/diary/2008/05/25/fsyncers-and-curveballs/ Good link, but I think it is entirely unrelated to this. Sorry, I misunderstood the reas

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-07-01 Thread Deron Meranda
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Steve Dowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I became aware of the firefox buffer memory flushing issue when running FF > 3.0b5. However, it seems to behave itself very well now on my box, using > FF3.0. Here is a link which I found useful in understanding that issue >

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-07-01 Thread Steve Dowe
Deron Meranda wrote: Steve, your observed Xorg behavior certainly sounds very much like mine. It is quite frustrating. It certainly is - I normally have to hard reset my machine once or twice a day, on average. Sounds like you do at least this? I've been trying to minimize my use of Fir

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-07-01 Thread Deron Meranda
Steve, your observed Xorg behavior certainly sounds very much like mine. It is quite frustrating. I've been trying to minimize my use of Firefox (painful) and shutting the app down when I'm not using it; and so far that seems to have greatly reduced (but not eliminated) the frequency of my hanging

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-07-01 Thread Steve Dowe
The cause of this problem on my system seems to be when dragging (resizing) a window. X then seems to hang, the pointer gets jumpy I should also have added that the mouse cursor image "sticks" to the diagonal arrow - it doesn't become the normal arrow/pointer again. I have just booted up i

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-07-01 Thread Steve Dowe
I have this problem too. Deron Meranda wrote: Okay, so Xorg ran away last night ... it should have been a completely idle unused system. Anyway, concerning the Xorg driver module, this is a brand new install of F9 (not an upgrade). All the software is part of the base F9 repo; nothing 3rd par

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-26 Thread Deron Meranda
Okay, so Xorg ran away last night while the system was totally idle and not being used at all. So I guess the scrollbar theory could be suspect. There was a screensaver running (just the "cosmos" image slideshow, no moving graphics); and I left firefox up, which had a gmail window running so it wo

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-25 Thread g
i will stop bugging you for a while after this one. g wrote: anyway, getting a little peeved, i did a google-linux-advanced search for [ "Xorg" AND "100%" ] and got 69,300 English pages for "Xorg" AND "100%". (0.28 seconds) i then added 'cpu' for 24,200 English pages for "Xorg" AND "100%"

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-25 Thread g
g wrote: > xorg group may be you best hope. how to reach them is another story. all > that is up on internet, last i checked, is a wiki, and it is not much. > like maybe, they are aware. i just went back to see what faqs might say about 100%. nothing, but they did give driver recommendations

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-25 Thread g
Deron Meranda wrote: No, there's no difference. These are all equivalent (on Linux): kill -15 pid kill -TERM pid kill -s 15 pid kill -s TERM pid i am old unix head and have always used numbers. never tried names, or numbers less than '-7' or great than '-15'. i just did a quick look

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-25 Thread Deron Meranda
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:44 PM, g <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I also tried kills in the following order: >> >> kill -TERM (-15) >> kill -SEGV (-11) >> kill -KILL (-9) > > this is not same as what i was showing you above. use numbers, not words. > type it as "kill -15 'pid#'" and use '-7' if

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-25 Thread g
Deron Meranda wrote: "kill -15 'pid#'" to kill it. if '-15' fails, use '-7'. I did the ps thing. Only one Xorg process was running. should be just 1. I also tried kills in the following order: kill -TERM (-15) kill -SEGV (-11) kill -KILL (-9) this is not same as what i was showi

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-25 Thread Deron Meranda
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:55 PM, g <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Deron Meranda wrote: > >> >> the Xorg process (gdb would hang). And also the Xorg process >> was not killable. Finally I tried kill -KILL on it, and it sort >> of got half-killed. > > use 'ps -el|grep X' to find 'X', Xorg process, t

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-25 Thread g
Deron Meranda wrote: the Xorg process (gdb would hang). And also the Xorg process was not killable. Finally I tried kill -KILL on it, and it sort of got half-killed. use 'ps -el|grep X' to find 'X', Xorg process, then "kill -15 'pid#'" to kill it. if '-15' fails, use '-7'. -- tc,hago. g

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-25 Thread Deron Meranda
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Once you've done that run it for a bit and see if it seems to be > gradually eating through swap. The overcommit test will probably work > sanely as well with 1GB+ of swap 8) Bad news. The system is still periodically "hanging

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-25 Thread Deron Meranda
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Aaron Konstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm running with almost 14GB of swap space... >> > Runnin with 14GB of swap semms an obscene waste of space. When you run > free how much of it is actually used? Yes, for this machine its overkill, but I don't mind. But

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 16:21 -0400, Deron Meranda wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > O> > I wonder if LUKS + swap might be the first suspect > >> I'm going to try to resize things and get my swap back up > >> to 32 GB. A little tricky due to LUKS being

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-25 Thread Bowe Strickland
>> I have reinstalled Fedora 9 (not an upgrade) onto a system that used >> to run F7 fine (except for a new video card, see below). >> >> Now I am seeing intermittent system hangs or lockups; probably about >> 2 or 3 per day. This happens most often if I'm scrolling a page in >> Firefox with the

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-24 Thread Deron Meranda
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > O> > I wonder if LUKS + swap might be the first suspect >> I'm going to try to resize things and get my swap back up >> to 32 GB. A little tricky due to LUKS being in the mix, but >> I should be able to do it. > > Once you've d

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-24 Thread Alan Cox
O> > I wonder if LUKS + swap might be the first suspect > > Well, I looked a little closer and it may be my fault. The LVM > I have swap in was only 32 MB in size, not the 32 GB I had > intended! So my swap is way smaller than my physical memory. > > Would that excessively small swap space size

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-24 Thread Deron Meranda
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> When the system hangs, the mouse cursor will continue to move, but >> it is very jumpy and sluggish. But otherwise the system is completely >> unresponsive (not just slow). > > That sounds like it suddenly ran out of memory. >

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-24 Thread Alan Cox
> When the system hangs, the mouse cursor will continue to move, but it > is very jumpy > and sluggish. But otherwise the system is completely unresponsive > (not just slow). That sounds like it suddenly ran out of memory. Try echo "2" >/proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory echo "80" >

Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-24 Thread Deron Meranda
I have reinstalled Fedora 9 (not an upgrade) onto a system that used to run F7 fine (except for a new video card, see below). Now I am seeing intermittent system hangs or lockups; probably about 2 or 3 per day. This happens most often if I'm scrolling a page in Firefox with the mouse wheel, but it