Re: BOINC

2009-03-23 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 15:43 -0400, John Aldrich wrote: On Wednesday 18 March 2009, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 10:56 -0400, John Aldrich wrote: Guys, I've discovered that, for some strange reason, you *must* have elevated privileges to run / configure BOINC when it's

Re: BOINC

2009-03-19 Thread John Aldrich
On Wednesday 18 March 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: I'm not sure why that's the case. I do know that we explicitly do not require root privileges for K3b, as they aren't necessary. (We also disable the check from upstream K3b which warns if wodim is not suid root, it works just fine without it!)

Re: BOINC

2009-03-19 Thread John Aldrich
On Wednesday 18 March 2009, Mike Burger wrote: It's not the case, any more, but I do recall it being an issue in FC3 or FC4, if memory serves. I've not seen it since FC5, and I know it's not the case in F8 or F9 (haven't tried in F10, yet). Yeah. I think that was about the time I discovered

Re: BOINC

2009-03-18 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 10:56 -0400, John Aldrich wrote: Guys, I've discovered that, for some strange reason, you *must* have elevated privileges to run / configure BOINC when it's installed via the F10 repositories. I'm running boinc on an unprivileged user. I've been trying to get BOINC

Re: BOINC

2009-03-18 Thread John Aldrich
On Wednesday 18 March 2009, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 10:56 -0400, John Aldrich wrote: Guys, I've discovered that, for some strange reason, you *must* have elevated privileges to run / configure BOINC when it's installed via the F10 repositories. I'm running boinc on an

Re: BOINC

2009-03-18 Thread Kevin Kofler
John Aldrich wrote: Yes, that's the sort of behavior that annoys the crap out of me. Fedora/RedHat in their *infinite wisdom* have decided that we can't be trusted to run *anything* as a normal user That's not true, actually with technologies like ConsoleKit and PolicyKit the trend is towards

Re: BOINC

2009-03-18 Thread Mike Burger
(as witnessed by them requiring admin priveleges awhile back to run XCDRoast!) I'm not sure why that's the case. I do know that we explicitly do not require root privileges for K3b, as they aren't necessary. (We also disable the check from upstream K3b which warns if wodim is not suid root,

Re: Boinc

2009-01-03 Thread G.Wolfe Woodbury
John Aldrich wrote: Anyone here running Boinc on Fedora 10 x86_64? I followed the instructions on their (Boinc/s...@home) website and ran yum install boinc... and it installed two packages. Now when I try to run boincmgr, I get the following error in the console: connect: Connection

Re: Boinc

2009-01-03 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 19:32 -0500, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: THiings like this are why I run in permissive mode. If you do that all the time, you may as well disable SELinux, it's not protecting you from anything in permissive mode. Enforcing - SELinux does what it's supposed to, it's enabled.

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-04 Thread Timothy Murphy
Matthew Saltzman wrote: But it seems to me that it should be easy enough to cater for all users, by having a setting in some /etc/NM.conf which will allow NM to start with a specific connection before anyone logs in _if that is what one wants_, or if not requires the user to authenticate

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-04 Thread Timothy Murphy
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Occasionally I try to access the internet from a WiFi hotspot but my experience in Ireland is that this is rarely as simple as it sounds. (Last time I tried in a pub here it turned out that they wanted me to pay the equivalent of several pints of beer.) OT, but

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-04 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 14:58 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: Matthew Saltzman wrote: But it seems to me that it should be easy enough to cater for all users, by having a setting in some /etc/NM.conf which will allow NM to start with a specific connection before anyone logs in _if that is

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-04 Thread Timothy Murphy
Matthew Saltzman wrote: But it seems to me that it should be easy enough to cater for all users, by having a setting in some /etc/NM.conf which will allow NM to start with a specific connection before anyone logs in _if that is what one wants_, or if not requires the user to

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-04 Thread Mike Chambers
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 12:33 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: Since this subject is bout Boinc and solved, shouldn't another thread be started, at least about what your currently talking about so can be followed from archives a little easier? Otherwise, who would know to search for boinc when

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 15:03 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Occasionally I try to access the internet from a WiFi hotspot but my experience in Ireland is that this is rarely as simple as it sounds. (Last time I tried in a pub here it turned out that they wanted

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-03 Thread Timothy Murphy
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Sorry, Rahul, you have lost me here. When I say that NM waits until the user logs in I mean that NetworkManager does not connect me to my AP until I login. Again, you are confusing between NM and nm-applet. I don't think so. I am using the term NetworkManager - as I

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 16:40 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: Occasionally I try to access the internet from a WiFi hotspot but my experience in Ireland is that this is rarely as simple as it sounds. (Last time I tried in a pub here it turned out that they wanted me to pay the equivalent of

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-03 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 16:40 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: Sorry, Rahul, you have lost me here. When I say that NM waits until the user logs in I mean that NetworkManager does not connect me to my AP until I login. Again, you are confusing between NM and

Re: BOINC again !? -- LAST POST

2008-07-03 Thread William Case
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 19:57 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 22:52 -0400, William Case wrote: [SNIP] report it just like you did above...if the packager has questions, he'll ask but I would suggest that you file it against NetworkManager package. It's important to work

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-02 Thread Timothy Murphy
Andrew Kelly wrote: There is also a large amount of work that needs to be done on fixing software that doesn't react well to network connections disappearing underneath them as happens often with wireless networks on laptops and mobile systems. Rahul As much as I am not a fan of

Re: BOINC again !? -- I give up.

2008-07-02 Thread Timothy Murphy
Mike Evans wrote: For machines with a wired connection I have been in the habit of disabling NM and using the good old network service. Works like a dream and doesn't need tampering with. You can do that through the Admin-services gui if you don't like fiddling with the links in the init

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Timothy Murphy wrote: But this was a specific, concrete query. Why does NM wait until the user has logged in to start? That's a wrong assumption. NM doesn't wait until the user has started. It is a system service which starts at boot. nm-applet(GNOME) or Knetworkmanager (KDE) is just a

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-02 Thread Timothy Murphy
Rahul Sundaram wrote: But this was a specific, concrete query. Why does NM wait until the user has logged in to start? That's a wrong assumption. NM doesn't wait until the user has started. It is a system service which starts at boot. nm-applet(GNOME) or Knetworkmanager (KDE) is just a

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Timothy Murphy wrote: Sorry, Rahul, you have lost me here. When I say that NM waits until the user logs in I mean that NetworkManager does not connect me to my AP until I login. Again, you are confusing between NM and nm-applet. Therefore any application that requires me to be connected has

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-02 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 16:30 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: But this was a specific, concrete query. Why does NM wait until the user has logged in to start? That's a wrong assumption. NM doesn't wait until the user has started. It is a system service which starts

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 11:09 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: Think about how accessing wireless systems works. If you have to authenticate, then you have to be logged in to do it (or you have to preconfigure it). If you are a mobile user, you may have to do it several times--NM makes the

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-02 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 14:15 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 11:09 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: Think about how accessing wireless systems works. If you have to authenticate, then you have to be logged in to do it (or you have to preconfigure it). If you are a

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-02 Thread Tim
Timothy Murphy: Perhaps if there was some minimal documentation for NM this might be clear. Rahul Sundaram: Perhaps if you will volunteer to contribute, it would have been done by now. If you want to wait for someone else to do the work, it is going to be done when others find time and

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-06-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Tom Horsley wrote: I don't think any problems in NetworkManager will ever be considered bugs until RedHat foists it on their paying RHEL customers There is a little problem with that theory. Both Red Hat and upstream bugzilla shows a considerable amount of bugs being filed and fixed on a

Re: BOINC again !?

2008-06-28 Thread William Case
On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 22:52 -0700, Craig White wrote: [big snip] yum install mod_ssl service httpd restart Port 443 now appears in netstat. Thanks. Boinc still not working -- but that is an application problem to be figured out in the morning. seems hard to believe that mod_ssl

Re: BOINC again !?

2008-06-28 Thread Markku Kolkka
Craig White kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika lauantai, 28. kesäkuuta 2008): don't know anything about BOINC but do you have/need httpd running (sounds like it) You don't need httpd to run the BOINC client. It doesn't need any incoming firewall ports open either. I think this thread

Re: BOINC again !?

2008-06-28 Thread Mike Burger
On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 23:22 -0400, William Case wrote: On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 21:19 -0400, John Munn wrote: You need to open the ports in your firewall (iptables). Didn't have iptables running. I do now with ports 80 and 443 set as trusted -- still nothing. Do I have to move or link some

Re: BOINC again !?

2008-06-28 Thread William Case
Hi Markku; On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 12:37 +0300, Markku Kolkka wrote: Craig White kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika lauantai, 28. kesäkuuta 2008): don't know anything about BOINC but do you have/need httpd running (sounds like it) You don't need httpd to run the BOINC client. It

Re: BOINC again !?

2008-06-28 Thread Tom Weniger
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 7:50 AM, William Case [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But... Any suggestions on how I get my boinc working. -- Regards Bill; Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.2 Evo.2.22.2, Emacs 22.2.1 Greetings William, I have used the following site to get my boinc going:

Re: BOINC again !? -- I give up.

2008-06-28 Thread William Case
Hi; I give up. I am filing a bug. On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 09:48 -0600, Tom Weniger wrote: On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 7:50 AM, William Case [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But... Any suggestions on how I get my boinc working. -- Greetings William, I have used the following site to get my boinc

Re: BOINC again !? -- I give up.

2008-06-28 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 14:30 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi; I give up. I am filing a bug. On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 09:48 -0600, Tom Weniger wrote: On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 7:50 AM, William Case [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But... Any suggestions on how I get my boinc working. --

Re: BOINC again !? -- I give up.

2008-06-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 12:51 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 14:30 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi; I give up. I am filing a bug. On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 09:48 -0600, Tom Weniger wrote: On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 7:50 AM, William Case [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: BOINC again !? -- I give up.

2008-06-28 Thread William Case
Hi Craig; On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 12:51 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 14:30 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi; I give up. I am filing a bug. On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 09:48 -0600, Tom Weniger wrote: On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 7:50 AM, William Case [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: BOINC again !? -- I give up. --correction

2008-06-28 Thread William Case
[snip] If that works, I then have to decide whether this is a Network Manager bug; a Boinc bug; or both. Of course, if boincmgr does successfully bug; a Boinc bug; or both. Of course, if boinc-clent does successfully reconnect to WCG and download additional work units, I will write the

Re: BOINC again !? -- I give up.

2008-06-28 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 16:19 -0400, William Case wrote: If it can't I will try Patrick's Network Manager solution. If that works, I then have to decide whether this is a Network Manager bug; a Boinc bug; or both. Of course, if boincmgr does successfully reconnect to WCG and download

Re: BOINC again !? -- I give up.

2008-06-28 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 06:48 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 16:19 -0400, William Case wrote: If it can't I will try Patrick's Network Manager solution. If that works, I then have to decide whether this is a Network Manager bug; a Boinc bug; or both.

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-06-28 Thread William Case
Hi Patrick and Craig; Thanks a million, I would and thousands of others would never have guessed NetworkManager was BOINC's problem in a thousand years. On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 12:51 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 14:30 -0400, William Case wrote: I believe that what

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-06-28 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 22:52 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi Patrick and Craig; Thanks a million, I would and thousands of others would never have guessed NetworkManager was BOINC's problem in a thousand years. On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 12:51 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-28 at

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-06-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 22:52 -0400, William Case wrote: Thanks a million, I would and thousands of others would never have guessed NetworkManager was BOINC's problem in a thousand years. Lucky guesses sometimes work out :-) poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To

Re: BOINC again !? -- I give up.

2008-06-28 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 06:48 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: If the analysis of NM starting too late in the boot process is correct, wouldn't one of these make life a bit more tolerable? Keeping in mind that I don't use F9, NM, or BOINC. :-) 1. Change the script number in /etc/init.d of NM to a

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-06-28 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 22:52 -0400, William Case wrote: I then added '/sbin/service boinc-client restart' to /etc/rc.d/rc.local and re-booted once again. --BINGO Seeing as the problem's with Network Manager, I'd move the restart script away from the rc.local file to the scripts that Network

Re: BOINC again !? -- I give up.

2008-06-28 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 14:10 +0930, Tim wrote: It strikes me that something is *really* broken with Network Manager. Other services wait until they start before returning to the next item in the startup sequence. Network Manager seems to be returning as ready, before it is, and buggering up

Re: BOINC again !?

2008-06-27 Thread John Munn
You need to open the ports in your firewall (iptables). John William Case wrote: Hi; I am having newbie problems with boinc, ports and SELinux -- I think. Networks and SELinux are two subjects I have put off learning to any rudimentary depth. So here goes. I can get Boinc to connect to

Re: BOINC again !?

2008-06-27 Thread William Case
On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 21:19 -0400, John Munn wrote: You need to open the ports in your firewall (iptables). Didn't have iptables running. I do now with ports 80 and 443 set as trusted -- still nothing. Do I have to move or link some file(s) from /var/lib/boinc to $HOME? John William

Re: BOINC again !?

2008-06-27 Thread William Case
Hi Craig; On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 21:54 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 00:44 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi Craig; On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 20:55 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 23:22 -0400, William Case wrote: On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 21:19 -0400, John Munn

Re: BOINC again !?

2008-06-27 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 01:45 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi Craig; On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 21:54 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 00:44 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi Craig; On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 20:55 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 23:22 -0400,

Re: Boinc problems ??

2008-06-20 Thread Nicolas
Mike Chambers mike at miketc.com writes: If /var/lib/boinc is where the files exist, then you need to try the following.. 1 - cd /var/lib/boinc 2 - ./boincmgr boincmgr is not in /var/lib/boinc, it's in /usr/bin. So: cd /var/lib/boinc /usr/bin/boincmgr (or just boincmgr, since it's in

Re: Boinc problems ?? -- [SOLVED]

2008-06-20 Thread William Case
Hi and Thanks; On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 19:59 -0400, William Case wrote: Thanks Adalbert; Mostly joy. On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 00:56 +0200, Adalbert Prokop wrote: William Case wrote on Friday 20 June 2008: I have no $HOME/BOINC; (I used to in Fedora 8) yum installed all boinc files

Re: Boinc problems ??

2008-06-19 Thread Adalbert Prokop
William Case wrote on Thursday 19 June 2008: Hello! When I launch boincmgr I get the following error message: Authorization failed connecting to running client. Make sure you start this program in the same directory as the client. They are both in /usr/bin/ and

Re: Boinc problems ??

2008-06-19 Thread William Case
On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 18:07 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi Adalbert; Now I am totally confused. On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 23:44 +0200, Adalbert Prokop wrote: William Case wrote on Thursday 19 June 2008: [snip] I tried creating a symbolic link from /usr/bin/gui_rpc_auth.cfg to

Re: Boinc problems ??

2008-06-19 Thread William Case
Thanks Adalbert; Mostly joy. On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 00:56 +0200, Adalbert Prokop wrote: William Case wrote on Friday 20 June 2008: I have no $HOME/BOINC; (I used to in Fedora 8) yum installed all boinc files in /var/lib/boinc/ including gui_rpc_auth.cfg. If gui_rpc_auth.cfg is there

Re: boinc in fedora?

2007-08-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Jonas Karlsson wrote: Hello, how about having Boinc (the client for distributed computing) part of the main repository. And fix a gui/make an integration to let say a screensaver activation so it only runs when user is idle. Use it as a marketing purpose and say fedora comes ready to