Re: BOINC again !?

2008-06-27 Thread John Munn
You need to open the ports in your firewall (iptables). John William Case wrote: Hi; I am having newbie problems with boinc, ports and SELinux -- I think. Networks and SELinux are two subjects I have put off learning to any rudimentary depth. So here goes. I can get Boinc to connect to the

Re: BOINC again !?

2008-06-27 Thread William Case
On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 21:19 -0400, John Munn wrote: > You need to open the ports in your firewall (iptables). Didn't have iptables running. I do now with ports 80 and 443 set as trusted -- still nothing. Do I have to move or link some file(s) from /var/lib/boinc to $HOME? > > John > > > Wil

Re: BOINC again !?

2008-06-27 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 23:22 -0400, William Case wrote: > On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 21:19 -0400, John Munn wrote: > > You need to open the ports in your firewall (iptables). > Didn't have iptables running. I do now with ports 80 and 443 set as > trusted -- still nothing. > > Do I have to move or lin

Re: BOINC again !?

2008-06-27 Thread William Case
Hi Craig; On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 20:55 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 23:22 -0400, William Case wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 21:19 -0400, John Munn wrote: > > > You need to open the ports in your firewall (iptables). > > Didn't have iptables running. I do now with ports 80 a

Re: BOINC again !?

2008-06-27 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 00:44 -0400, William Case wrote: > Hi Craig; > > On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 20:55 -0700, Craig White wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 23:22 -0400, William Case wrote: > > > On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 21:19 -0400, John Munn wrote: > > > > You need to open the ports in your firewall (ipt

Re: BOINC again !?

2008-06-27 Thread William Case
Hi Craig; On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 21:54 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 00:44 -0400, William Case wrote: > > Hi Craig; > > > > On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 20:55 -0700, Craig White wrote: > > > On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 23:22 -0400, William Case wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 21:19 -04

Re: BOINC again !?

2008-06-27 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 01:45 -0400, William Case wrote: > Hi Craig; > > On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 21:54 -0700, Craig White wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 00:44 -0400, William Case wrote: > > > Hi Craig; > > > > > > On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 20:55 -0700, Craig White wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 2

Re: BOINC again !?

2008-06-27 Thread William Case
On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 22:52 -0700, Craig White wrote: [big snip] > > yum install mod_ssl > service httpd restart > Port 443 now appears in netstat. Thanks. Boinc still not working -- but that is an application problem to be figured out in the morning. > seems hard to believe that mod_ssl w

Re: BOINC again !?

2008-06-28 Thread Markku Kolkka
Craig White kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika lauantai, 28. kesäkuuta 2008): > > don't know anything about BOINC but do you have/need httpd > running (sounds like it) You don't need httpd to run the BOINC client. It doesn't need any incoming firewall ports open either. I think this thread

Re: BOINC again !?

2008-06-28 Thread Mike Burger
> On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 23:22 -0400, William Case wrote: >> On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 21:19 -0400, John Munn wrote: >> > You need to open the ports in your firewall (iptables). >> Didn't have iptables running. I do now with ports 80 and 443 set as >> trusted -- still nothing. >> >> Do I have to move

Re: BOINC again !?

2008-06-28 Thread William Case
Hi Markku; On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 12:37 +0300, Markku Kolkka wrote: > Craig White kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika lauantai, 28. > kesäkuuta 2008): > > > > don't know anything about BOINC but do you have/need httpd > > running (sounds like it) > > You don't need httpd to run the BOINC clie

Re: BOINC again !?

2008-06-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 09:50 -0400, William Case wrote: > My problem is I keep getting this error message from bonicmgr: "BOINC is > unable to communicate with a project and needs an Internet connection. > "Please connect to the Internet, then select the 'retry communications' > item off the advanc

Re: BOINC again !?

2008-06-28 Thread Tom Weniger
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 7:50 AM, William Case <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But... Any suggestions on how I get my boinc working. > > -- > Regards Bill; > Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.2 > Evo.2.22.2, Emacs 22.2.1 > > Greetings William, I have used the following site to get my boinc going: http://www.gaz

Re: BOINC again !?

2008-06-28 Thread William Case
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 15:59 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 06:48 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > Craig White wrote: > > > On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 16:19 -0400, William Case wrote: > > > > > >> If it can't I will try Patrick's Network Manager solution. > > >> > > >> If that works, I th

Re: BOINC again !? -- LAST POST

2008-07-03 Thread William Case
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 19:57 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 22:52 -0400, William Case wrote: [SNIP] > > report it just like you did above...if the packager has questions, he'll > ask but I would suggest that you file it against NetworkManager package. > > It's important to

Re: BOINC again !? -- I give up.

2008-06-28 Thread William Case
Hi; I give up. I am filing a bug. On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 09:48 -0600, Tom Weniger wrote: > On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 7:50 AM, William Case <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > But... Any suggestions on how I get my boinc working. > > > > -- > Greetings William, > > I have used the following site to

Re: BOINC again !? -- I give up.

2008-06-28 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 14:30 -0400, William Case wrote: > Hi; > > I give up. I am filing a bug. > > On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 09:48 -0600, Tom Weniger wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 7:50 AM, William Case <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > But... Any suggestions on how I get my boinc working.

Re: BOINC again !? -- I give up.

2008-06-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 12:51 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 14:30 -0400, William Case wrote: > > Hi; > > > > I give up. I am filing a bug. > > > > On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 09:48 -0600, Tom Weniger wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 7:50 AM, William Case <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

Re: BOINC again !? -- I give up.

2008-06-28 Thread William Case
Hi Craig; On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 12:51 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 14:30 -0400, William Case wrote: > > Hi; > > > > I give up. I am filing a bug. > > > > On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 09:48 -0600, Tom Weniger wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 7:50 AM, William Case <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: BOINC again !? -- I give up.

2008-06-28 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 16:19 -0400, William Case wrote: > If it can't I will try Patrick's Network Manager solution. > > If that works, I then have to decide whether this is a Network Manager > bug; a Boinc bug; or both. Of course, if boincmgr does successfully > reconnect to WCG and download add

Re: BOINC again !? -- I give up.

2008-06-28 Thread Ed Greshko
Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 16:19 -0400, William Case wrote: If it can't I will try Patrick's Network Manager solution. If that works, I then have to decide whether this is a Network Manager bug; a Boinc bug; or both. Of course, if boincmgr does successfully reconnect to WCG and

Re: BOINC again !? -- I give up.

2008-06-28 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 06:48 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 16:19 -0400, William Case wrote: > > > >> If it can't I will try Patrick's Network Manager solution. > >> > >> If that works, I then have to decide whether this is a Network Manager > >> bug; a Boin

Re: BOINC again !? -- I give up.

2008-06-28 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 06:48 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > If the analysis of NM starting too late in the boot process is > correct, wouldn't one of these make life a bit more tolerable? > Keeping in mind that I don't use F9, NM, or BOINC. :-) > > 1. Change the script number in /etc/init.d of NM to

Re: BOINC again !? -- I give up.

2008-06-28 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 14:10 +0930, Tim wrote: > It strikes me that something is *really* broken with Network Manager. > Other services wait until they start before returning to the next item > in the startup sequence. Network Manager seems to be returning as > ready, before it is, and buggering u

Re: BOINC again !? -- I give up.

2008-06-30 Thread Mike Evans
It strikes me that something is *really* broken with Network Manager. Other services wait until they start before returning to the next item in the startup sequence. Network Manager seems to be returning as ready, before it is, and buggering up other things that follow. My experience wit

Re: BOINC again !? -- I give up.

2008-06-30 Thread jcvlz
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Mike Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> It strikes me that something is *really* broken with Network Manager. >>> Other services wait until they start before returning to the next item >>> in the startup sequence. Network Manager seems to be returning as >>>

Re: BOINC again !? -- I give up.

2008-07-02 Thread Timothy Murphy
Mike Evans wrote: > For machines with a wired connection I have been in the habit of > disabling NM and using the good old network service. Works like a dream > and doesn't need tampering with. You can do that through the > Admin->services gui if you don't like fiddling with the links in the > i

Re: BOINC again !? -- I give up. --correction

2008-06-28 Thread William Case
[snip] > If that works, I then have to decide whether this is a Network Manager > bug; a Boinc bug; or both. Of course, if boincmgr does successfully bug; a Boinc bug; or both. Of course, if boinc-clent does successfully > reconnect to WCG and download additional work units, I will write the >

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-06-28 Thread William Case
Hi Patrick and Craig; Thanks a million, I would and thousands of others would never have guessed NetworkManager was BOINC's problem in a thousand years. On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 12:51 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 14:30 -0400, William Case wrote: > > I believe that what Pat

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-06-28 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 22:52 -0400, William Case wrote: > Hi Patrick and Craig; > > Thanks a million, I would and thousands of others would never have > guessed NetworkManager was BOINC's problem in a thousand years. > > On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 12:51 -0700, Craig White wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-06-28

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-06-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 22:52 -0400, William Case wrote: > Thanks a million, I would and thousands of others would never have > guessed NetworkManager was BOINC's problem in a thousand years. Lucky guesses sometimes work out :-) poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscrib

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-06-28 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 22:52 -0400, William Case wrote: > I then added '/sbin/service boinc-client restart' > to /etc/rc.d/rc.local and re-booted once again. --BINGO Seeing as the problem's with Network Manager, I'd move the restart script away from the rc.local file to the scripts that Network

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-06-29 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:52:49 -0400 William Case <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some poor unlucky shmuck could get caught from 2 days to a week trying > to figure out what was wrong. But there is nothing wrong! Don't you know that NetworkManager is a vast improvement? Don't you know that any other p

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-06-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Tom Horsley wrote: I don't think any problems in NetworkManager will ever be considered bugs until RedHat foists it on their paying RHEL customers There is a little problem with that theory. Both Red Hat and upstream bugzilla shows a considerable amount of bugs being filed and fixed on a reg

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-06-30 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 16:51 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Tom Horsley wrote: > > > > I don't think any problems in NetworkManager will ever be considered > > bugs until RedHat foists it on their paying RHEL customers > > There is a little problem with that theory. Both Red Hat and upstream > b

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-02 Thread Timothy Murphy
Andrew Kelly wrote: >> There is also a large amount of work that needs to >> be done on fixing software that doesn't react well to network >> connections disappearing underneath them as happens often with wireless >> networks on laptops and mobile systems. >> >> Rahul > As much as I am "not a fa

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Timothy Murphy wrote: But this was a specific, concrete query. Why does NM wait until the user has logged in to start? That's a wrong assumption. NM doesn't wait until the user has started. It is a system service which starts at boot. nm-applet(GNOME) or Knetworkmanager (KDE) is just a front

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-02 Thread Timothy Murphy
Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> But this was a specific, concrete query. >> Why does NM wait until the user has logged in to start? > > That's a wrong assumption. NM doesn't wait until the user has started. > It is a system service which starts at boot. nm-applet(GNOME) or > Knetworkmanager (KDE) is jus

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Timothy Murphy wrote: Sorry, Rahul, you have lost me here. When I say that NM waits until the user logs in I mean that NetworkManager does not connect me to my AP until I login. Again, you are confusing between NM and nm-applet. Therefore any application that requires me to be connected has t

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-02 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 16:30 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > >> But this was a specific, concrete query. > >> Why does NM wait until the user has logged in to start? > > > > That's a wrong assumption. NM doesn't wait until the user has started. > > It is a system service

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 11:09 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > Think about how accessing wireless systems works. If you have to > authenticate, then you have to be logged in to do it (or you have to > preconfigure it). If you are a mobile user, you may have to do it > several times--NM makes the p

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-02 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 14:15 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 11:09 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > > Think about how accessing wireless systems works. If you have to > > authenticate, then you have to be logged in to do it (or you have to > > preconfigure it). If you

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-02 Thread Tim
Timothy Murphy: >> Perhaps if there was some minimal documentation for NM this might be clear. Rahul Sundaram: > Perhaps if you will volunteer to contribute, it would have been done by > now. If you want to wait for someone else to do the work, it is going to > be done when others find time and

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Tim wrote: Timothy Murphy: Perhaps if there was some minimal documentation for NM this might be clear. Rahul Sundaram: Perhaps if you will volunteer to contribute, it would have been done by now. If you want to wait for someone else to do the work, it is going to be done when others find ti

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-03 Thread Timothy Murphy
Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Sorry, Rahul, you have lost me here. >> When I say that NM waits until the user logs in >> I mean that NetworkManager does not connect me to my AP >> until I login. > > Again, you are confusing between NM and nm-applet. I don't think so. I am using the term NetworkManage

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 16:40 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Occasionally I try to access the internet from a WiFi "hotspot" > but my experience in Ireland is that this is rarely as simple as it > sounds. > (Last time I tried in a pub here it turned out that they wanted me to > pay > the equivalent o

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-03 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 16:40 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > >> Sorry, Rahul, you have lost me here. > >> When I say that NM waits until the user logs in > >> I mean that NetworkManager does not connect me to my AP > >> until I login. > > > > Again, you are confusing betw

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-04 Thread Timothy Murphy
Matthew Saltzman wrote: >> But it seems to me that it should be easy enough to cater for all users, >> by having a setting in some /etc/NM.conf which will allow NM to start >> with a specific connection before anyone logs in >> _if that is what one wants_, >> or if not requires the user to authent

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-04 Thread Timothy Murphy
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> Occasionally I try to access the internet from a WiFi "hotspot" >> but my experience in Ireland is that this is rarely as simple as it >> sounds. >> (Last time I tried in a pub here it turned out that they wanted me to >> pay >> the equivalent of several pints of beer

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-04 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 14:58 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > >> But it seems to me that it should be easy enough to cater for all users, > >> by having a setting in some /etc/NM.conf which will allow NM to start > >> with a specific connection before anyone logs in > >>

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-04 Thread Timothy Murphy
Matthew Saltzman wrote: >> >> But it seems to me that it should be easy enough to cater for all >> >> users, by having a setting in some /etc/NM.conf which will allow NM to >> >> start with a specific connection before anyone logs in >> >> _if that is what one wants_, >> >> or if not requires the

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-04 Thread Mike Chambers
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 12:33 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: Since this subject is bout Boinc and solved, shouldn't another thread be started, at least about what your currently talking about so can be followed from archives a little easier? Otherwise, who would know to search for boinc when discus

Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 15:03 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > >> Occasionally I try to access the internet from a WiFi "hotspot" > >> but my experience in Ireland is that this is rarely as simple as it > >> sounds. > >> (Last time I tried in a pub here it turned out tha