Dave Ihnat wrote:
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:56:09PM +, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Actually, ATT Unix was free - I don't think they were allowed to sell it.
We acquired Unix edition 5 but never got it to run
because it didn't have drivers for the computer we were using (pdp-11/23).
They
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 20:53 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 18:54 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 15:56 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
Fedorales? Fedora's posse!
The Spanish word is federales, but I guess puns are acceptable :-)
Puns are
On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 10:33 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 20:53 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 18:54 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 15:56 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
Fedorales? Fedora's posse!
The
2009/2/12 Armin feng.sh...@gmail.com:
Obviously the OP didn't understand that we Fedoraites (is that a word?)
it's actually 'Fedorian' I believe!
I'd like it a little shorter and go for 'Fedoran'.
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Ian Malone wrote:
2009/2/12 Armin feng.sh...@gmail.com:
Obviously the OP didn't understand that we Fedoraites (is that a word?)
it's actually 'Fedorian' I believe!
I'd like it a little shorter and go for 'Fedoran'.
I've heard bigger is supposed to be better: Fedoristas
(and it has that
2009/2/13 Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com:
2009/2/12 Armin feng.sh...@gmail.com:
Obviously the OP didn't understand that we Fedoraites (is that a word?)
it's actually 'Fedorian' I believe!
I'd like it a little shorter and go for 'Fedoran'.
Re. new thread title; oops; a noun, but clearly not
It seems that in some ways this list may have lost it's focus.
If I'm wrong, please correct me. Isn't Fedora here to explore the latest
and greatest? If this is true, at some point two releases a year might not
be enough based upon advancements.
If someone is expecting a relative distro
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:05:11 +
Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com wrote:
Ian Malone wrote:
2009/2/12 Armin feng.sh...@gmail.com:
Obviously the OP didn't understand that we Fedoraites (is that a
word?)
it's actually 'Fedorian' I believe!
I'd like it a little
Carroll Grigsby wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:05:11 +
Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com wrote:
Ian Malone wrote:
2009/2/12 Armin feng.sh...@gmail.com:
Obviously the OP didn't understand that we Fedoraites (is that a
word?)
it's actually 'Fedorian' I believe!
I'd like
Gene Poole wrote:
It seems that in some ways this list may have lost it's focus.
If I'm wrong, please correct me. Isn't Fedora here to explore the latest
and greatest? If this is true, at some point two releases a year might not
be enough based upon advancements.
If someone is
snip
Speaking about incompatibility, isn't the only guarantee is that a
kernel at the same level, regardless of distribution, will function exactly
the same?! If you want to move from, say, KDE3 to KDE4 you have to upgrade
your system because drivers and libraries are hardly ever forward
Jay Mistry wrote:
snip
Speaking about incompatibility, isn't the only guarantee is that a
kernel at the same level, regardless of distribution, will function exactly
the same?! If you want to move from, say, KDE3 to KDE4 you have to upgrade
your system because drivers and libraries are
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 12:57 +, Ian Malone wrote:
I'd like it a little shorter and go for 'Fedoran'.
Mad hatters? ;-)
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Tim wrote:
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 12:57 +, Ian Malone wrote:
I'd like it a little shorter and go for 'Fedoran'.
Mad hatters? ;-)
That makes me wonder, what group would be the March Hare?
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On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 09:19 -0500, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:05:11 +
Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com wrote:
Ian Malone wrote:
2009/2/12 Armin feng.sh...@gmail.com:
Obviously the OP didn't understand that we Fedoraites (is
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Seann Clark nombran...@tsukinokage.net wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 12:57 +, Ian Malone wrote:
I'd like it a little shorter and go for 'Fedoran'.
Mad hatters? ;-)
That makes me wonder, what group would be the March Hare?
As a slight OT
On Friday 13 February 2009 10:25:18 Mark Haney wrote:
Carroll Grigsby wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:05:11 +
Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com wrote:
Ian Malone wrote:
2009/2/12 Armin feng.sh...@gmail.com:
Obviously the OP didn't understand that we Fedoraites (is that
On Friday 13 February 2009 11:13:29 Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 09:19 -0500, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:05:11 +
Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com wrote:
Ian Malone wrote:
2009/2/12 Armin
Mark Haney írta:
Carroll Grigsby wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:05:11 +
Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com wrote:
Ian Malone wrote:
2009/2/12 Armin feng.sh...@gmail.com:
Obviously the OP didn't understand that we Fedoraites (is that a
word?)
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:21:31 +0100
Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote:
Can we stop these collective nuances?
No! It's pronounced collective nuances, but its spelt
Throat-Warbler Mangrove.
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2009/2/12 Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com:
JD wrote:
I have been a unix user since the early 70's. Were you even born then?
Yes, I was born then - I was even working with computers then. So I
have seen a bit of the computer world.
You're both clearly in
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Sharpe, Sam J
sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com wrote:
Ian Malone wrote:
2009/2/12 Armin feng.sh...@gmail.com:
Obviously the OP didn't understand that we Fedoraites (is that a word?)
it's actually 'Fedorian' I believe!
I'd like it a little shorter and go
On Friday 13 February 2009 13:32:10 Aldo Foot wrote:
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Sharpe, Sam J
sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com wrote:
Ian Malone wrote:
2009/2/12 Armin feng.sh...@gmail.com:
Obviously the OP didn't understand that we Fedoraites (is that a
word?)
it's
On Friday 13 February 2009, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
2009/2/12 Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com:
JD wrote:
I have been a unix user since the early 70's. Were you even born then?
Yes, I was born then - I was even working with computers then. So I
have seen a
On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 13:41 -0400, Armin wrote:
On Friday 13 February 2009 13:32:10 Aldo Foot wrote:
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Sharpe, Sam J
sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com wrote:
Ian Malone wrote:
2009/2/12 Armin feng.sh...@gmail.com:
Obviously the OP didn't understand
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 15:56 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
Fedorales? Fedora's posse!
The Spanish word is federales, but I guess puns are acceptable :-)
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Rangeen Basu wrote:
More over UNIX was
costly Linux is not. Its free and one software can work on all
distros. So there is really no question of failing.
Actually, ATT Unix was free - I don't think they were allowed to sell it.
We acquired Unix edition 5 but never got it to run
because it
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:56:09PM +, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Actually, ATT Unix was free - I don't think they were allowed to sell it.
We acquired Unix edition 5 but never got it to run
because it didn't have drivers for the computer we were using (pdp-11/23).
They couldn't sell it
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 18:54 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 15:56 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
Fedorales? Fedora's posse!
The Spanish word is federales, but I guess puns are acceptable :-)
Puns are de regueur 8^).
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On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 18:14 -0600, Dave Ihnat wrote:
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:56:09PM +, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Actually, ATT Unix was free - I don't think they were allowed to sell it.
We acquired Unix edition 5 but never got it to run
because it didn't have drivers for the computer
Mike Chalmers wrote:
I do not understand how Fedora expects you to upgrade or reinstall
every 6 months or so.
This is just not right.
Should a distro keep continuing to make you install every six months,
if so, I would rather use Microsoft. Why not provide updates, major
ones, to the already
This thread is still going on strong?
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Robin Laing
robin.la...@drdc-rddc.gc.cawrote:
Mike Chalmers wrote:
I do not understand how Fedora expects you to upgrade or reinstall
every 6 months or so.
This is just not right.
Should a distro keep continuing to
JD wrote:
I understand Mike Chalmers frustration with the release
frequency. No one is actually forced to re-install a new
release. The support cycle for each release extends to
about 18 months.
I am however in agreement with Mike's basic proposal:
that given ANY fedora installation,
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
JD wrote:
I understand Mike Chalmers frustration with the release
frequency. No one is actually forced to re-install a new
release. The support cycle for each release extends to
about 18 months.
I am however in agreement with Mike's basic proposal:
that given
JD wrote:
Mister mikkel,
So, the very first statement you made is calling me a troll for MS.
It is fitting that you call people names. It exposes your mental capacities.
Funny, I don't remember calling you a name. I asked you a question,
and you have yet to answer it. I guess being
On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 11:53 -0800, JD wrote:
I think the same is happening to Linux. It's success is breeding
incompatibilities
between the various distros, and that will kill it's possibility of
taking the lead
from windows.
Real success should not be measured by how many different
candy
On 2/12/09, Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote:.
I'm #100! boo ya ka shah!
eat my shorts, suckas!
this thread sucks my ass!
hahaha
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Mister mikkel,
So, the very first statement you made is calling me a troll for MS.
It is fitting that you call people names. It exposes your mental capacities.
I have been a unix user since the early 70's. Were you even born then?
I have worked on the old unix version 7 kernel, the BSD
2009/2/12 Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com:
JD wrote:
I have been a unix user since the early 70's. Were you even born then?
Yes, I was born then - I was even working with computers then. So I
have seen a bit of the computer world.
You're both clearly in the same ballpark (the
Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
2009/2/12 Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com:
JD wrote:
I have been a unix user since the early 70's. Were you even born then?
Yes, I was born then - I was even working with computers then. So I
have seen a bit of the computer world.
You're both clearly in
Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
2009/2/12 Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com:
JD wrote:
I have been a unix user since the early 70's. Were you even born then?
Yes, I was born then - I was even working with computers then. So I
have seen a bit of the computer world.
You're both clearly in
On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 23:42 +, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
2009/2/12 Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com:
JD wrote:
I have been a unix user since the early 70's. Were you even born then?
Yes, I was born then - I was even working with computers then. So I
have seen a bit of the
Obviously the OP didn't understand that we Fedoraites (is that a word?)
it's actually 'Fedorian' I believe!
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On Thursday 12 February 2009 19:42:25 Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
2009/2/12 Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com:
JD wrote:
I have been a unix user since the early 70's. Were you even born then?
Yes, I was born then - I was even working with computers then. So I
have seen a bit of the
Mark Haney wrote:
Alan Evans wrote:
No, I don't understandably say it's too bleeding edge. I didn't say
that at all. But, I don't mind testing packages.
Fine. So packages in rawhide should be moved continuously into updates
as each is found worthy of general use? But how? If by the time
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:08 AM, Mark Haney wrote:
Alan Evans wrote:
As I understand it, Gentoo doesn't suffer this because each user is
compiling their own package sets. Updating libfoo doesn't require
recursively redownloading every package that requires it because the
user already has the
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Mark Haney wrote:
Alan Evans wrote:
No, I don't understandably say it's too bleeding edge. I didn't say
that at all. But, I don't mind testing packages.
Fine. So packages in rawhide should be moved continuously into updates
as each is found worthy of general use? But
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Subject: Re: Feature Proposal: Rolling Updates (was Re: WHY I WANT TO
STOP USING FEDORA!!!)
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Date: 02/11/2009 10:04 AM
I'd
Alan Evans wrote:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:08 AM, Mark Haney wrote:
Alan Evans wrote:
As I understand it, Gentoo doesn't suffer this because each user is
compiling their own package sets. Updating libfoo doesn't require
recursively redownloading every package that requires it because the
Mark Haney wrote:
Alan Evans wrote:
But what about appbar that also requires libfoo? Unless I'm
misunderstanding how Gentoo works (which is possible), you don't need
to redownload appbar because libfoo was updated. You only need to
recompile appbar after updating libfoo.
Not exactly. If
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson
mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote:
Normally, you only need to recompile if there is a major version in
the library. If it is a minor version change, it is supposed to be
backward compatible.
This maybe expected for libraries which advertises a
Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson
mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote:
This maybe expected for libraries which advertises a stable API, but
its not a hard and fast rule for all libraries..especially for
libraries which do not advertise themselves as stable.
Mark Haney wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Mark Haney wrote:
Alan Evans wrote:
No, I don't understandably say it's too bleeding edge. I didn't say
that at all. But, I don't mind testing packages.
Fine. So packages in rawhide should be moved continuously into updates
as each is found worthy of
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Mark Haney wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Mark Haney wrote:
Alan Evans wrote:
No, I don't understandably say it's too bleeding edge. I didn't say
that at all. But, I don't mind testing packages.
Fine. So packages in rawhide should be moved continuously into updates
as
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson
mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote:
It sounds like your example is the exception to the rule.
I'm pretty sure we went through the same sort of thing early on in the
d-bus process in previous Fedora releases before D-bus announced API
stability.
On Monday 09 February 2009, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Mike Chalmers
mikechalmer...@gmail.com wrote:
Nothing else makes as much sense to me in the open source world
that isn't a 'paid' or 'enterprise' edition.
Mark we are definitely on the same page. Open
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:32 AM, Serguei Miridonov mir...@cicese.mx wrote:
On Monday 09 February 2009, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Mike Chalmers
mikechalmer...@gmail.com wrote:
Nothing else makes as much sense to me in the open source world
that isn't a 'paid'
Can we finally let this thread die.
No further info\fixes,
are being supplied within replies.
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Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Mark Haney mha...@ercbroadband.org wrote:
That said, rolling updates are the way to go. No need for continual
upgrades to 'releases' just update to the latest version of a package
and be done with it. I'm just not sure a 'major release'
Wayne Feick wrote:
I have to say, this is why I switched *away* from gentoo. It seemed like
a good idea at first, but I got tired of being surprised far too often
by someone deciding to make changes that required my attention. A lot of
the changes seemed to be of the class wouldn't the
Charles Crayne wrote:
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 19:04:16 -0800 (PST)
Leslie Satenstein lsatenst...@yahoo.com wrote:
With internet access the way it is, why not just
do rolling updates?
Sounds good, until the day when yum identifies 473 dependencies for the
package you want to install.
One of
Mark Haney wrote:
Charles Crayne wrote:
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 19:04:16 -0800 (PST)
Leslie Satenstein lsatenst...@yahoo.com wrote:
With internet access the way it is, why not just
do rolling updates?
Sounds good, until the day when yum identifies 473 dependencies for the
package you want to
Ralf Corsepius wrote:
Mark Haney wrote:
Charles Crayne wrote:
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 19:04:16 -0800 (PST)
Leslie Satenstein lsatenst...@yahoo.com wrote:
With internet access the way it is, why not just
do rolling updates?
Sounds good, until the day when yum identifies 473 dependencies for the
Pedro Freire wrote:
What use do you make of your Fedora system ?
For my laptop I like to have the newest releases, of course. Added
functionality ? not always but sometimes. More good looking ? rarely
My server: I only change stuff when I have to!
Wouldn't it be easier in that case to
2009/2/10 Mark Haney mha...@ercbroadband.org:
Oh? And how come I can install the same set of software in Gentoo and
not need an extra 50+MB of dependencies? I wish I had an example at the
moment, but I don't. However, I'm sure one will pop up sooner or later.
Because gentoo builds from
Timothy Murphy wrote:
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
I hope you at least understand why a rolling release is technically
difficult, especially in a distro like Fedora where things can change
radically from one release to another.
I find it slightly illogical that Fedora has a fixed period for each
Jonathan Underwood wrote:
Because gentoo builds from source on your local machine, building in
support for componenets as specified by your USE flags, whereas Fedora
is a binary distribution, and dependencies are generated during the
building of those binaries.
Now, why don't my apples
Mark Haney wrote:
Bollocks. I am quite aware of the differences between the two distros.
Do not insult my intelligence. The point I'm making is that some
dependencies seem unnecessary. (Again, I'm unable to come up with a
specific example at the moment, since I'm at work, but I'm sure
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
I am not following your argument. How does having dependencies
result in a bigger binary? I would think it would result in just the
opposite - small binaries that link with other programs/libraries
like building blocks. Other programs can share some of the same
On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:32 AM, Serguei Miridonov
mir...@cicese.mx wrote:
On Monday 09 February 2009, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Mike Chalmers
mikechalmer...@gmail.com wrote:
Nothing else makes as much
Mark Haney wrote:
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
I am not following your argument. How does having dependencies
result in a bigger binary? I would think it would result in just the
opposite - small binaries that link with other programs/libraries
like building blocks. Other programs can share
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 08:46 -0500, Mark Haney wrote:
I just fail to see why Fedora can't be handled the same way as Gentoo.
It's all linux. They are all the same packages. I'm not advocating or
demanding a change, just voicing my opinion on it. I'm not that kind of
revolutionary, I just
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote:
Red Hat/Fedora, Debian (and all derivatives like Ubuntu) and Gentoo all
use different methodologies and philosophies to ultimately give you a
running system and they all work.
What? No shout out to rpath and Foresight.
Mark Haney wrote:
Wayne Feick wrote:
I have to say, this is why I switched *away* from gentoo. It seemed like
a good idea at first, but I got tired of being surprised far too often
by someone deciding to make changes that required my attention. A lot of
the changes seemed to be of the class
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Mike Chalmers mikechalmer...@gmail.com wrote:
Nothing else makes as much sense to me in the open source world that
isn't a 'paid' or 'enterprise' edition.
Mark we are definitely on the same page. Open source works together,
so it is very
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:05 AM, suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote:
That is well said. We recently deployed some Scientific Linux virtual
machines at our lab, and conary helps there in keeping the size of the
images significantly small.
Is SL using conary?
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Mark Haney wrote:
Wayne Feick wrote:
I have to say, this is why I switched *away* from gentoo. It seemed like
a good idea at first, but I got tired of being surprised far too often
by someone deciding to make changes that required my attention. A lot
James Harrison wrote:
fed up with Network Manager
If you want you don't have to use networking with Network Manager. It is
optional whether you use it or not.
I am quite aware of that. (In fact, we had a really long thread about
that very subject.) However, the more I do, the more I
2009/2/10 Jeff Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:05 AM, suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com
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machines at our lab, and conary helps there in keeping the size of the
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James Harrison wrote:
fed up with Network Manager
If you want you don't have to use networking with Network Manager. It is
optional whether you use it or not.
I am quite aware
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Mark Haney mha...@ercbroadband.org wrote:
The biggest one being Firefox. I have no idea what is going on with
Fedora's Firefox, but the exact same set of plugins and configuration on
gentoo and it screams compared to the slug that is FF on Fedora. FF on
Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Mark Haney mha...@ercbroadband.org wrote:
The biggest one being Firefox. I have no idea what is going on with
Fedora's Firefox, but the exact same set of plugins and configuration on
gentoo and it screams compared to the slug that is FF on
James Harrison wrote:
gentoo system booting in under 20 seconds as compared to over 40 forFedora.
Perhaps its your laptop? My system ( 64 bit running 32 bit FC10 ) does it
round about 20 (from the time grub takes over the system).
Not the laptop. Why would Fedora take twice as long? Because
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:10:04 -0500
Mark Haney mha...@ercbroadband.org wrote:
It's 500+MB of
updates. With rolling updates it's possible to scale that down, I
think.
Your post makes it seem like Fedora does not do any rolling updates. I
haven't been keeping an exact count, but since F10's
Original Message
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To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora.
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Date: 02/10/2009 03:21 PM
Now, I'm done with this thread.
OK, great
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Mark Haney mha...@ercbroadband.org wrote:
Sorry, I am not patching FF with anything out of the tree. It's a plain
jane build, including nspluginwrapper, which, by all accounts should
kill performance. It doesn't. It's much more responsive than fedora's
base
Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Original Message
Subject: Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
From: Mark Haney mha...@ercbroadband.org
To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora.
fedora-list@redhat.com
Date: 02/10/2009 03:21 PM
Now, I'm done
Original Message
Subject: Re: Feature Proposal: Rolling Updates (was Re: WHY I WANT TO
STOP USING FEDORA!!!)
From: Mark Haney mha...@ercbroadband.org
To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora.
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Date: 02/10/2009 04:10 PM
Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Original Message
You didn't get what I said. I realize that Gentoo provides all the same
latest and greatest stuff Fedora does, however, they mask most of the
bleeding-edge stuff that Fedora has already.
No, I understood. But what is masked
Mark Haney wrote:
Michael Cronenworth wrote:
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From: Mark Haney mha...@ercbroadband.org
To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora.
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Date: 02/10/2009 03:21 PM
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On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote:
Original Message
Subject: Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
From: Mark Haney mha...@ercbroadband.org
To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora.
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Arthur Pemberton wrote:
That won't work and will purely be annoying. If you want rolling
releases, setup a SIG to do so. These guys have work to do. They don't
seem to have free time that can be shifted to whatever you want, just
because you want it. That's the whole point of having a community
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Alan Cox wrote:
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 21:13:21 -0500
Mike Chalmers mikechalmer...@gmail.com wrote:
I do not understand how Fedora expects you to upgrade or reinstall
every 6 months or so.
This is just not right.
Should a distro keep continuing to make you install every six
Hi All;
Thank God that the shouting has started early.
To me, it usually signifies a successful version release.
Within only 10 weeks of Fedora 10's release we once again have people
debating Fedora philosophy, ranting about basic components, and trolling
with CAPITALS, using sarcasm, and
Hi,
true that is a little bit annoying to re-install the system every 6
months, but ...
Why you do it ? What is your special need that makes you MUST have the
new version ?
What use do you make of your Fedora system ?
For my laptop I like to have the newest releases, of course. Added
As I said above I am sorry for the initial RANT. Thank you to all for
your patience and help.
I have been looking into ARCH, which someone, mentioned above, and I
think their philosophy towards Linux is, quite good, a rolling
release. It is harder to work with initially seeing as it does not
have
Mike Chalmers wrote:
As I said above I am sorry for the initial RANT. Thank you to all for
your patience and help.
I have been looking into ARCH, which someone, mentioned above, and I
think their philosophy towards Linux is, quite good, a rolling
release. It is harder to work with initially
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Mark Haney mha...@ercbroadband.org wrote:
That said, rolling updates are the way to go. No need for continual
upgrades to 'releases' just update to the latest version of a package
and be done with it. I'm just not sure a 'major release' design is the
way to
Mark Haney wrote:
I have to throw my 2 cents worth in. I have to agree that doing a full
upgrade every 6-8 months gets tiresome when you have a dozen or so
machines running it.
Curious, why do people keep mentioning 6-8 months, when fedora releases are
supported for a full ~13 months?
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On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 16:14 -0500, Mark Haney wrote:
I have to throw my 2 cents worth in. I have to agree that doing a full
upgrade every 6-8 months gets tiresome when you have a dozen or so
machines running it. However, preupgrade does seem to help that a lot
and it's getting better with
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