Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-09 Thread jackson byers
David responded with a list of things to try on my f10 X problems ... > 7) Read: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines#Write_a_Good_Subject_Line > and perhaps start a new thread, because currently the subject line of > this long thread is not describing your current iss

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-09 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 10:11 -0700, jackson byers wrote: > first clearly identifying who wrote any msg i am quoting > and then identifying my reply with "jbyers:" at the start > of each block I am replying to. > My reading of the guidelines i think says that is ok. The difference between what y

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-09 Thread David
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 3:11 AM, jackson byers wrote: > I want to thank you for taking the time to  write your criticism of my > replies. No problem, I'm not the fedoralist police or anything else special, just trying to steer you towards getting your problem solved. Right from the start my impres

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-08 Thread jackson byers
David responded: My (differing) interpretation of the above is that he is reporting success at reaching text login in f10. But like much of what he writes, it is hard to be sure what he is actually saying. Jack I am on of many contributors to this thread who thinks that it would be a lot easier f

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-08 Thread jackson byers
jbyers: > Any ideas on the failing X server? > Craig: not really but /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/Xorg.setup.log should be able to tell you/us what the problem is. If you do post the Xorg.0.log to the list, you might want to also include output of 'lspci -v' too Craig -- jbyers: Ok,

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-07 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 19:40 -0700, jackson byers wrote: > Craig responded: > > boot F10 in runlevel 3 > login as root > yum update mkinitrd > yum update > yum install system-config-display > system-config-display --reconfig > > If you do all that, can run 'startx' and be happy, I suppose you are

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-07 Thread jackson byers
Craig responded: boot F10 in runlevel 3 login as root yum update mkinitrd yum update yum install system-config-display system-config-display --reconfig If you do all that, can run 'startx' and be happy, I suppose you are good. Craig jbyers: all went ok except las

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-07 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 13:45 -0700, jackson byers wrote: > David: > > My (differing) interpretation of the above is that he is reporting > > success at reaching text login in f10. But like much of what he > > writes, it is hard to be sure what he is actually saying. > > Craig: > it doesn't make

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-07 Thread jackson byers
David: > My (differing) interpretation of the above is that he is reporting > success at reaching text login in f10. But like much of what he > writes, it is hard to be sure what he is actually saying. Craig: it doesn't make sense that he can't boot from his F10 installation directly but chain

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-07 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 09:27 -0700, jackson byers wrote: > > A. let it boot up until the screen disappears... > > press > > > > or > > > > B. Press a key at the grub prompt and highlight the kernel with the > > arrow keys and press the letter 'e', move down to the kernel line and > > press the lett

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-07 Thread jackson byers
> A. let it boot up until the screen disappears... > press > > or > > B. Press a key at the grub prompt and highlight the kernel with the > arrow keys and press the letter 'e', move down to the kernel line and > press the letter 'e'. Add a space and put in the number "3" to tell it > to boot to ru

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-06 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 10:41 +1000, David wrote: > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Craig White wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 14:49 -0700, jackson byers wrote: > >> I finally went back to my fc5 and put a space and a "3" at end of > >> kernel line > >> in the f10 grub.conf. > >> This got me t

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-06 Thread David
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Craig White wrote: > On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 14:49 -0700, jackson byers wrote: >> I finally went back to my fc5   and put a space and a "3"  at end of kernel >> line >> in the f10 grub.conf. >> This got me to login > well, it won't do you any good since you are not

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-06 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 14:49 -0700, jackson byers wrote: > Craig responded: > Either... > > A. let it boot up until the screen disappears... > press > > or > > B. Press a key at the grub prompt and highlight the kernel with the > arrow keys and press the letter 'e', move down to the kernel line

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-06 Thread jackson byers
Craig responded: Either... A. let it boot up until the screen disappears... press or B. Press a key at the grub prompt and highlight the kernel with the arrow keys and press the letter 'e', move down to the kernel line and press the letter 'e'. Add a space and put in the number "3" to tell it t

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-06 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 09:16 -0700, jackson byers wrote: > That's interesting - I didn't actually see how you are sending HTML. > My Gmail is set to "default text encoding" (not UTF-8) and I seem to > be sending messages in text: That's two DIFFERENT things. UTF-8 is a form of encoding text (thi

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-06 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 09:00 -0700, jackson byers wrote: > jbyers: > end of quote re "scsi_mod.scan=sync" > > Important Note: mkinitrd-6.0.71-3.fc10 fixes the issue above!! Please > update your system after fixing manually, or better after booting > using the kernel argument "scsi_mod.scan=sync" !!

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-06 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 09:00 -0700, jackson byers wrote: > thanks for response It is customary for quoted text to be prefixed with a ">" symbol so readers can EASILY tell which is quoted text, and which is new (responses to questions). Quotes of quotes get an extra ">" symbol each time around. An

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-06 Thread jackson byers
Sam Sharpe responded 2009/5/5 jackson byers : > jbyers: > html? my apologies, i had no idea. > I guess i need some info in gmail how not to do that. > in my gmail setting > Outgoing message encoding: > Use default text encoding for outgoing messages < Use Unicode (UTF-8) encoding for outgoing me

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-06 Thread jackson byers
jbyers: end of quote re "scsi_mod.scan=sync" Important Note: mkinitrd-6.0.71-3.fc10 fixes the issue above!! Please update your system after fixing manually, or better after booting using the kernel argument "scsi_mod.scan=sync" !!! --- Craig: If you read Bill Nottingham's comment (# 19), the solut

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-06 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 15:23 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 22:47 +1000, David wrote: On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Tim wrote: On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 09:57 -0700, jackson byers wrote: I guess i need some info in gmail

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 15:23 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 22:47 +1000, David wrote: > >> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Tim wrote: > >>> On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 09:57 -0700, jackson byers wrote: > I guess i need some info in gmail how not to

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-06 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 22:47 +1000, David wrote: On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Tim wrote: On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 09:57 -0700, jackson byers wrote: I guess i need some info in gmail how not to do that. in my gmail setting nothing here explicitly HTML the option you

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 22:47 +1000, David wrote: > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Tim wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 09:57 -0700, jackson byers wrote: > >> I guess i need some info in gmail how not to do that. > >> in my gmail setting > >> nothing here explicitly HTML > > > > the option you want

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-06 Thread David
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Tim wrote: > On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 09:57 -0700, jackson byers wrote: >> I guess i need some info in gmail how not to do that. >> in my gmail setting >> nothing here explicitly HTML > > the option you want.  It'll be some option about rich text, formatted > text, or

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2009-05-06 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
Tim wrote: On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 09:57 -0700, jackson byers wrote: I guess i need some info in gmail how not to do that. in my gmail setting Outgoing message encoding: Use default text encoding for outgoing messages < Use Unicode (UTF-8) encoding for outgoing messages nothing here expl

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-06 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 09:57 -0700, jackson byers wrote: > I guess i need some info in gmail how not to do that. > in my gmail setting > Outgoing message encoding: > Use default text encoding for outgoing messages < Use Unicode (UTF-8) encoding for outgoing messages > nothing here explicit

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-05 Thread David
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Craig White wrote: > On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 13:31 -0700, jackson byers wrote: >> David wrote >> Just in case you are not aware of this Jackson, it may help to know >> that the boot process and messages can be paused by pressing ctrlS and >> resumed by ctrlQ >> --

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-05 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 13:31 -0700, jackson byers wrote: > David wrote > Just in case you are not aware of this Jackson, it may help to know > that the boot process and messages can be paused by pressing ctrlS and > resumed by ctrlQ > > jbyers: > > thanks David, that helps me look at all m

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-05 Thread jackson byers
David wrote Just in case you are not aware of this Jackson, it may help to know that the boot process and messages can be paused by pressing ctrlS and resumed by ctrlQ jbyers: thanks David, that helps me look at all msgs up to some point shy of the failure point which is something like W

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-05 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/5/5 jackson byers : > jbyers: >  html? my apologies, i had no idea. > I guess i need some info in gmail how not to do that. > in my gmail setting > Outgoing message encoding: >  Use default text encoding for outgoing messages <  Use Unicode (UTF-8) encoding for outgoing messages > nothing here

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-05 Thread jackson byers
jbyers: > I explicitly said they are scsi disks in one of my responses > and yes they are 36gb > Again, does using scsi disks mean i have special requirements? craig responded you probably did - reading through your e-mails is very tough because you continue to use HTML format which really mak

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-04 Thread David
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Craig White wrote: > F10 so I would want to look at the debugging info on the startup screen > for more information at this point. Just in case you are not aware of this Jackson, it may help to know that the boot process and messages can be paused by pressing ctrlS

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-04 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 19:39 -0700, jackson byers wrote: > >>selecting the norhgbquiet stanza > >>gives me a long list of boot msgs, lasting longer than seen before > >>and it appears to quit > >>starting X server > > >>screen then goes blank > > >>does this help narrow down what is wrong? > > >

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-04 Thread jackson byers
>>selecting the norhgbquiet stanza >>gives me a long list of boot msgs, lasting longer than seen before >>and it appears to quit >>starting X server >>screen then goes blank >>does this help narrow down what is wrong? >>Jack -- Craig responded >not really... >Comment the line that says hi

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-04 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 14:44 -0700, jackson byers wrote: > newest info: f10 appears to quit when starting X server, see below > > > I had modified f10 grub.conf to have 3 stanzas > > 1 f10 orig rhgb quiet > 2 f10 norhgbquiet > 3 fc5 chainloader > > But, had to hit esc while booting to see

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-04 Thread jackson byers
newest info: f10 appears to quit when starting X server, see below I had modified f10 grub.conf to have 3 stanzas 1 f10 orig rhgb quiet 2 f10 norhgbquiet 3 fc5 chainloader But, had to hit esc while booting to see my 3 stanzas ie I dont get presented with this list unless i hit esc so there

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-04 Thread jackson byers
Craig responded: you didn't post the whole grub.conf so it's not possible to compare it to the entry for FC5 Obviously we now know you have 2 hard disks so it probably would be helpful to show output of grub.conf fdisk -l /dev/sda fdisk -l /dev/sdb yes, if you remove 'rhgb quiet' entries from g

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-04 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 12:00 -0700, jackson byers wrote: > Craig responded: > boot the F10 DVD - choose 'Rescue mode' and do not install again > <<< > > Accept the default options and it should locate the Fedora 10 > installation automatically and leave you at a command prompt > > Type...

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-04 Thread jackson byers
Craig responded: boot the F10 DVD - choose 'Rescue mode' and do not install again <<< Accept the default options and it should locate the Fedora 10 installation automatically and leave you at a command prompt Type... chroot /mnt/sysimage grub-install /dev/sda exit exit remove the DVD and

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-03 Thread jackson byers
jbyers reply 2) I next tried allowing the f10 install on sda1 have grub install into mbr of sda, thus replacing the fc5 grub into mbr of sda5. <<-- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedor

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-03 Thread jackson byers
frank cox wrote jackson byers wrote: > reinstalled f10dvd media ck said ok Any chance you could re-post your question using complete words and sentences, and a complete description of what you have done and what you expect to see, and what you actually see? I read your message four times and I

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-03 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 16:17 -0700, jackson byers wrote: > I am out of ideas, > using a purchased osdisc fedora 10 dvd > > reinstalled f10dvd media ck said ok > this time using minimum options > and this time accepting default of mbr sda > install said successful > but on reboot get exactly sam

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-03 Thread g
Frank Cox wrote: > Any chance you could re-post your question using complete words and sentences, you may need to express yourself in simpler terms. people who post in 'html' have trouble understanding and communicating. :) -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, wh

Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-03 Thread Frank Cox
On Sun, 03 May 2009 16:17:41 -0700 jackson byers wrote: > reinstalled f10dvd media ck said ok Any chance you could re-post your question using complete words and sentences, and a complete description of what you have done and what you expect to see, and what you actually see? I read your messa

f10dvd installs but won't boot

2009-05-03 Thread jackson byers
I am out of ideas, using a purchased osdisc fedora 10 dvd reinstalled f10dvd media ck said ok this time using minimum options and this time accepting default of mbr sda install said successful but on reboot get exactly same errors as seen previously when f10 grub into sda1 notmbr , (then was