Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-13 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 13:16 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Rejecting on a quoted/new threshold would certainly discourage > excessive quoting, but deciding on the magic number would not be easy. Well, a 90:1 ought to get digest posts and not be a problem to others. Something high would be fai

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 20:03 +, g wrote: > > As I said, the digest is not itself a message on the list, > > true. but hitting this list it gets an id, totally unrelated to thread > reply is to. > > > so this doesn't matter. > > false. i understand and respect your knowledge. but you are not >

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-13 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 02:14 +, g wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > [...] >> poc, >> if 'appropriately edited', *Subject: * should also be changed to a new >> message, not just click 'reply'. >> >> clicking

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 23:54 +0930, Tim wrote: > Tim: > >> If it's technical possible for *this* list server to automatically > >> reject quoted digest replies, I'd like to see it done. > > Patrick O'Callaghan: > > +1, but it could be tricky to pull off reliably. > > There are news servers which d

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 02:14 +, g wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- [...] > poc, > if 'appropriately edited', *Subject: * should also be changed to a new > message, not just click 'reply'. > > clicking 'reply' would carry id of *Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol nn, Issue > nnn*. > would i

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-13 Thread Tim
Tim: >> If it's technical possible for *this* list server to automatically >> reject quoted digest replies, I'd like to see it done. Patrick O'Callaghan: > +1, but it could be tricky to pull off reliably. There are news servers which do it fairly well (reject for quoting, HTML, and other reasons)

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-13 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 07:43 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > I'm curious...just how often does this problem present itself such > that it generates as much backlash as it does? Often enough that it's a problem with the size of the messages, and trying to figure out what the hell they're responding to.

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread landon kelsey
Bingo! --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Ed Greshko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Ed Greshko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100 > To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." > > Date: Friday, S

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread landon kelsey
insecure people can gain the "superior" feeling by looking down on somebody! --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Aldo Foot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Aldo Foot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100 > To: "Community assistance,

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Ed Greshko wrote: > Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: >>> I'm curious...just how often does this problem present itself such that >>> it generates as much backlash as it does? >>> >>> >> I think the fact that is generates so much backlash is what keeps it >> down - You get hammered for it, and do not

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread Aldo Foot
>> I think the fact that is generates so much backlash is what keeps it >> down - You get hammered for it, and do not get any help until you >> correct your behavior. >> > And there are probably some that get hammered for it, stagger around a > bit, and then move on to other places with a bad taste

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ed Greshko wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> As I'm on individual mails, >>> have just added on gmail.com "subject fedora-list Digest" goed to trash. >>> This should be the last one I get. >>> >> That will also trash messages that have bee

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread Ed Greshko
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > >> I'm curious...just how often does this problem present itself such that >> it generates as much backlash as it does? >> >> > I think the fact that is generates so much backlash is what keeps it > down - You get hammered for it, and do not get any help until you

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Ed Greshko wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> As I'm on individual mails, >>> have just added on gmail.com "subject fedora-list Digest" goed to trash. >>> This should be the last one I get. >>> >> That will also trash messages that have been appropriately edited but >> retain the digest S

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread Ed Greshko
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >> I'm curious...just how often does this problem present itself such that >> it generates as much backlash as it does? >> > > If you mean the problem of people quoting digests, there are some repeat > offenders out there who just don't seem to get the idea, and it

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 07:43 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > >> As I'm on individual mails, > >> have just added on gmail.com "subject fedora-list Digest" goed to trash. > >> This should be the last one I get. > >> > > > > That will also trash messages that have been

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread Ed Greshko
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >> As I'm on individual mails, >> have just added on gmail.com "subject fedora-list Digest" goed to trash. >> This should be the last one I get. >> > > That will also trash messages that have been appropriately edited but > retain the digest Subject line. I agree t

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > I have no idea what the OP > was asking - I opened the original mail because it was a slow day, > but when I saw the digest TOC, I just deleted it. Most days, I > probably would have deleted it without even opening it. i

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 17:37 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > >> As I'm on individual mails, >> have just added on gmail.com "subject fedora-list Digest" goed to trash. >> This should be the last one I get. > > That will also trash messages that have been appropriately edit

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 17:37 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 12:01 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 22:57 +0930, Tim wrote: > > > On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 07:59 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > stop copying the whole digest in your posts > > > > >

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frank Murphy wrote: > On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 12:01 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 22:57 +0930, Tim wrote: >>> On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 07:59 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: stop copying the whole digest in your posts >>>

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 12:01 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 22:57 +0930, Tim wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 07:59 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > stop copying the whole digest in your posts > > > > If it's technical possible for *this* list server to automatical

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread James Kosin
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 22:57 +0930, Tim wrote: >> On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 07:59 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> stop copying the whole digest in your posts >> If it's technical possible for *this* list server to automatically >> reject quoted digest replies, I'd like

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 22:57 +0930, Tim wrote: > On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 07:59 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > stop copying the whole digest in your posts > > If it's technical possible for *this* list server to automatically > reject quoted digest replies, I'd like to see it done. +1, but it

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 07:59 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > stop copying the whole digest in your posts If it's technical possible for *this* list server to automatically reject quoted digest replies, I'd like to see it done. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 Don't se

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 10:23 +0530, winiston wrote: > Hi friends, [...] You did it again. Please stop copying the whole digest in your posts. It's completely pointless and counterproductive. Take a few seconds to remove extraneous material (see the Guidelines at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Commun

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-11 Thread winiston
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