Re: setting X server DPI

2009-03-11 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 17:40 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: Ideally, the X server has the correct DPIs and the application is written to use them. The application can discover the number of pixels in a 12pt font and enlarge or not depending on the answer and the purpose. Given that many

Re: setting X server DPI

2009-03-11 Thread Tim
Tim: i.e. 12 point text is the same size whether printed on 2 inches of paper, or 20 inches of paper. Tom Horsley: Absolutely true, and absolutely the point. If you specify a 12 point font on a 46 1920x1080 display, you will wind up drawing some random smudge of bits that is indeed able to

Re: setting X server DPI

2009-03-10 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 11:44 -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: 96x96 should be the default. I don't know why it isn't. No. The DPI should be set to the values that actually represent the hardware. Font sizing, and the like, should be set by picking the font size you want, not buggering up the

Re: setting X server DPI

2009-03-10 Thread Bill Crawford
On Tuesday 10 March 2009 11:31:39 Tim wrote: Anyone who thinks that increasing the resolution *should* create smaller fonts, or GUI gadgets, has got it extremely wrong. And that includes all the programmers who stupidly do that. Except that, if you want to do so, because you want more real

Re: setting X server DPI

2009-03-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:01:39 +1030 Tim wrote: 96x96 should be the default. I don't know why it isn't. No. The DPI should be set to the values that actually represent the hardware. Actually, that attitude is the one that is utter nonsense. If you want to get slavish about actual

Re: setting X server DPI

2009-03-10 Thread Tim
Tim: No. The DPI should be set to the values that actually represent the hardware. Tom Horsley Actually, that attitude is the one that is utter nonsense. If you want to get slavish about actual representation, then you need to know the distance of the viewer and specify font sizes by the

Re: setting X server DPI

2009-03-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 02:24:39 +1030 Tim wrote: i.e. 12 point text is the same size whether printed on 2 inches of paper, or 20 inches of paper. Absolutely true, and absolutely the point. If you specify a 12 point font on a 46 1920x1080 display, you will wind up drawing some random smudge of

Re: setting X server DPI

2009-03-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 13:27 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: Absolutely true, and absolutely the point. If you specify a 12 point font on a 46 1920x1080 display, you will wind up drawing some random smudge of bits that is indeed able to fit on a line that is 12/72 of an inch high, but there aren't

Re: setting X server DPI

2009-03-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:35:51 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: This true but it shouldn't be. It's true because the sizes of things in X are defined in terms of pixels, and it's wrong because 12pt type is 12pt, no matter what medium it's on. It's an absolute size, not a given number of pixels.

Re: setting X server DPI

2009-03-10 Thread Michael Hennebry
Ideally, the X server has the correct DPIs and the application is written to use them. The application can discover the number of pixels in a 12pt font and enlarge or not depending on the answer and the purpose. Given that many applications don't do that, lying about the DPIs is a perfectly

setting X server DPI

2009-03-08 Thread David Hláčik
Hello guys, how to configure X server's DPI on Fedora 10? I have in gnome DPI set to 96DPI, but when i check Xorg.log i see that there is 75x75 DPI, which is the reason , why my fonts are so blurry. Thanks for help, D. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: setting X server DPI

2009-03-08 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
David Hláčik wrote: Thanks for help, 96x96 should be the default. I don't know why it isn't. I have tried it on an old 1992 crt monitor and 96x96 worked splendidly, so I don't know what kind of archaic hardware the present default is set for. To change, edit /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc and append '

Re: setting X server DPI

2009-03-08 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:44:44 -0600 Petrus de Calguarium wrote: To change, edit /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc and append ' -dpi 96' (no quotes, of course) to the ServerArgsLocal line. Which works only if you are using KDM and not GDM. I've got a long rant on DPI one a website I'm working on with all my