Re: a call to action [Fwd: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise]

2007-04-12 Thread Karsten Wade
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 10:44 +0800, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: I think we spread the word enough its just people choose not to listen. Without actually placing it on their desktop and making a user click 'I understand this contains no propietary software' I don't know what else needs to be

Re: a call to action [Fwd: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise]

2007-04-12 Thread Jonathan Roberts
Nope. What can we do for people? What can we offer them that is useful? * More original content in Ogg format There's already *loads* of original content in Ogg, maybe Fedora could point them in the direction of some of it? Magnatune, Jamendo etc...I thought the new default home page in FC6

Re: Mascot - Blue Arrara

2007-04-12 Thread Greg Dekoenigsberg
On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, Máirín Duffy wrote: And herein lies the problem. The licensing/etc issues around the logo have made it such that it can be difficult for community members to actually use it (eg Fedora art team) or even interpretations of it. For the community to create something that

Re: a call to action [Fwd: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise]

2007-04-12 Thread Jonathan Roberts
On 12/04/07, Rahul Sundaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan Roberts wrote: Nope. What can we do for people? What can we offer them that is useful? * More original content in Ogg format There's already *loads* of original content in Ogg, maybe Fedora could point them in the direction

Re: expanding Fedora user base

2007-04-12 Thread Rahul Sundaram
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now to turn to my marketing and sales experience: I've got a pretty good idea of what Fedora is. Question is: Where's it going? Here are some observations from listening here and hanging around the forums. 1. Fedora will remain developmental. Seems to be fundamental

Re: expanding Fedora user base

2007-04-12 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 12:28:06AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: 2. Fedora is not warm and fuzzy to newbies. I really love the parrot but efforts toward a masot may lead to a sense of misrepresentation by newcomers. Not a good long-term strategy. A parrot has not been decided as a mascot nor

Re: expanding Fedora user base

2007-04-12 Thread Jeremy Hogan
Parrots to 95% of the world are just pretty birds that are smart enough to learn to speak. Unless you've owned one, or spent more than a visit with someone who has one, you don't know how cranky and high maintenance they are. On that note, cranky and high maintenance aren't that far off the

Re: a call to action [Fwd: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise]

2007-04-12 Thread Peter Gordon
Karsten Wade wrote: Codec Buddy is a great step/improvement here. I like the idea of confronting the situation head-on, proactively. Pages on the Wiki and pointing at them after someone complains is reactive. Agreed. It's a nice way of getting legal support for these things should the user