On Thu, 4 Oct 2007, Matthew Miller wrote:
Kind of hard to get anything done at the FUDcon if it's also a circus
I disagree. You just have to make sure that the Big Top is well isolated
from the roustabouts who are doing the work out back. :)
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Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
What do people think of this as "The Slogan" of Fedora?
Max and I gave a Fedora talk at the Triangle Linux Users Group not too
long ago. Luis Villa was in attendance as well, and in the audience
participation segment of the talk, Luis slipped this gem in.
It's bee
What do people think of this as "The Slogan" of Fedora?
Max and I gave a Fedora talk at the Triangle Linux Users Group not too
long ago. Luis Villa was in attendance as well, and in the audience
participation segment of the talk, Luis slipped this gem in.
It's been rolling around in my head
Máirín Duffy wrote:
Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
What do people think of this as "The Slogan" of Fedora?
Max and I gave a Fedora talk at the Triangle Linux Users Group not too
long ago. Luis Villa was in attendance as well, and in the audience
participation segment of the talk, Luis slipped th
+1
On 10/5/07, Máirín Duffy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
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> > What do people think of this as "The Slogan" of Fedora?
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> > Max and I gave a Fedora talk at the Triangle Linux Users Group not too
> > long ago. Luis Villa was in attendance as well, and in the audien
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Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
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> What do people think of this as "The Slogan" of Fedora?
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> Max and I gave a Fedora talk at the Triangle Linux Users Group not too
> long ago. Luis Villa was in attendance as well, and in the audience
> participation se
Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
What do people think of this as "The Slogan" of Fedora?
Max and I gave a Fedora talk at the Triangle Linux Users Group not too
long ago. Luis Villa was in attendance as well, and in the audience
participation segment of the talk, Luis slipped this gem in.
It's bee
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
What do people think of this as "The Slogan" of Fedora?
Max and I gave a Fedora talk at the Triangle Linux Users Group not too
long ago. Luis Villa was in attendance as well, and in the audience
participation segment of the talk, Luis slipped
Hrmm. That's pretty good. +1
--jeremy
On 10/5/07, Greg DeKoenigsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> What do people think of this as "The Slogan" of Fedora?
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> Max and I gave a Fedora talk at the Triangle Linux Users Group not too
> long ago. Luis Villa was in attendance as well, and in the au
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:43:38 -0400 (EDT)
Greg DeKoenigsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Max and I gave a Fedora talk at the Triangle Linux Users Group not
> too long ago. Luis Villa was in attendance as well, and in the
> audience participation segment of the talk, Luis slipped this gem in.
>
>
Máirín Duffy wrote:
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
What do people think of this as "The Slogan" of Fedora?
Max and I gave a Fedora talk at the Triangle Linux Users Group not
too long ago. Luis Villa was in attendance as well, and in the
audience participation segment of th
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Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
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> What do people think of this as "The Slogan" of Fedora?
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> Max and I gave a Fedora talk at the Triangle Linux Users Group not too
> long ago. Luis Villa was in attendance as well, and in the audience
> participation se
I love the slogan. I am talking about Fedora in an GNU/Linux training
event on 13 Oct, 07 conducted by ITPF, Banglaore, India. Inspired by
this slogan, I got new ideas to talk about in the event.
jkeating wrote:
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:43:38 -0400 (EDT)
Greg DeKoenigsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 10:27:14AM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/freedom.png
> whatcha think
Looks pretty good in conjunction with the logo.
A little bit of a tangent: If the Project adopts an official slogan like
this that we intend to use on an ongoing basis a
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Máirín Duffy wrote:
Well...
http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/freedom.png
whatcha think
Yep.
I don't think I've ever seen this list agree so quickly on *anything*.
Let's let it bake for a little while longer, but I think that very soon
we're going to be pimping this a
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Paul Stauffer wrote:
A little bit of a tangent: If the Project adopts an official slogan like
this that we intend to use on an ongoing basis as a distinguishing
identifier, it might be a good idea to clearly indicate it as a trademark.
I don't know what all the requirements
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Yes as long as we somehow make it clear which one is what.
Well...
http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/freedom.png
whatcha think
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On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 09:37:17AM -0400, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
> >Kind of hard to get anything done at the FUDcon if it's also a circus
> I disagree. You just have to make sure that the Big Top is well isolated
> from the roustabouts who are doing the work out back. :)
Well, I was skep
Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
"Freedom is a Feature" is a trademark of The Fedora Project and Red Hat,
Inc. Use of the words "Freedom is a Feature" without express written
consent is strictly prohibited by U.S. and International Law.
Um, I don't think that would look great on Slashdot.
I'd much
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 10:54:12AM -0400, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
> "Freedom is a Feature" is a trademark of The Fedora Project and Red Hat,
> Inc. Use of the words "Freedom is a Feature" without express written
> consent is strictly prohibited by U.S. and International Law.
>
> Um, I don't t
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Nicu Buculei wrote:
Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
"Freedom is a Feature" is a trademark of The Fedora Project and Red Hat,
Inc. Use of the words "Freedom is a Feature" without express written
consent is strictly prohibited by U.S. and International Law.
Um, I don't think tha
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Paul Stauffer wrote:
Or are you just remarking on the perceived irony of a phrase containing
the word "freedom" being considered a form of intellectual property?
This point exactly. With other slogans, I'd be less concerned. With this
slogan, the idea of protecting the m
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Matthew Miller wrote:
Maybe we could leave off the TM but include somewhere some lighthearted
fine print about it being a trademark irony notwithstanding and we know
that sounds silly but hey, gotta use the law to protect freedom too. I'm
too tired to be really witty right
Nicu Buculei wrote:
What we should to to "protect": when we go live with the slogan for the
first time we should do *a lot* of noise about it, not just put quietly
a new banner on the site.
any ideas on how to promote it?
this is kind of what i was thinking altho, heh, i was too lazy to gimp
Matthew Miller wrote:
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 11:46:57AM -0400, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
Or are you just remarking on the perceived irony of a phrase containing
the word "freedom" being considered a form of intellectual property?
This point exactly. With other slogans, I'd be less concerned.
Στις 05-10-2007, ημέρα Παρ, και ώρα 09:43 -0400, ο/η Greg DeKoenigsberg
έγραψε:
> What do people think of this as "The Slogan" of Fedora?
>
> Max and I gave a Fedora talk at the Triangle Linux Users Group not too
> long ago. Luis Villa was in attendance as well, and in the audience
> participat
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 11:46:57AM -0400, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
> >Or are you just remarking on the perceived irony of a phrase containing
> >the word "freedom" being considered a form of intellectual property?
> This point exactly. With other slogans, I'd be less concerned. With this
> slo
Le Wed, 03 Oct 2007 23:32:12 +0200,
Gerold Kassube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
> Uuuups, yes Christoph,
>
> you're totally right.
> We don't finalize any meeting minutes, me did a realy big mistake.
>
> So my apologies to the french association and hope all members can
> accept also the
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 12:08:55PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> while the slogan is a pretty nice statement of a defining quality of
> fedora - omfg will the world end if someone else uses it?
>
> e.g., if $DISTRO starts using it AND actually backs it by you know, not
> shipping patent-infringin
Why I mentioned the XO laptop is that it is based on Fedora. For both
projects to succeed in the future, they need more public awareness!
Do you think free publicity would hurt or not?
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On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Paul Stauffer wrote:
I guess my initial comment regarding trademark was spurred by seeing the
phrase used in conjunction with the logo in your mock-up, Mo. It looked
really good. They looked like they *belonged* together. I instantly
foresaw them being linked together in a
Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Matthew Miller wrote:
Maybe we could leave off the TM but include somewhere some
lighthearted fine print about it being a trademark irony
notwithstanding and we know that sounds silly but hey, gotta use the
law to protect freedom too. I'm too tire
Very Impressive but i think many better slogens were provided.
Yet it is catshy in English and my mother language Arabic, but i don't know if
it is going to be in other languages.
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Dimitris Glezos a écrit :
Simple, focused. Very nice slogan.
Maybe a bit more difficult to be translated than the current one
("Infinity. Freedom. Voice.").
I was about to make this point too.
I love "Freedom is a Feature" – in English.
But I haven't the faintest idea how to translate it in a
On 10/5/07, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
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> What do people think of this as "The Slogan" of Fedora?
> It's been rolling around in my head ever since. What do you folks think?
Sounds good, but isn't primarily for fedora.
Freedom is a Feature. Having lots of "F" does point to Fedora. But
other linux
So I'm starting to see a pattern.
Native English speakers seem to *really* dig it.
Non-native speakers seem more reserved.
/me wonders if we need different slogans per language. Or even, give the
local ambassadors the power to come up with their own Best Slogan.
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On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Ch
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> Sounds good, but isn't primarily for fedora.
But it just fits the SUCCES bits of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Made_to_Stick
:)
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On 10/5/07, Markus McLaughlin wrote:
> Do you think free publicity would hurt or not?
IF DONE PROPERLY !
> Mark McLaughlin - linuxglobe.wordpress.com
In accordance to your blog post :
http://linuxglobe.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/fedora-8-needs-to-add-features-like-ubuntu-710/
You referred "F
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Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
> On 10/5/07, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
>> What do people think of this as "The Slogan" of Fedora?
>> It's been rolling around in my head ever since. What do you folks think?
>
> Sounds good, but isn't primarily for fedora.
>
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 09:43 -0400, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
> What do people think of this as "The Slogan" of Fedora?
>
> Max and I gave a Fedora talk at the Triangle Linux Users Group not too
> long ago. Luis Villa was in attendance as well, and in the audience
> participation segment of the
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For me... That slogan is really powerful. Point the finger on the
major thing, regarding Fedora, before all the tech stuff, before the
art, before everything is Fedora's philosophy core.
But, for me, it'sn't right for a new slogan.
It sounds too "tech
On 10/5/07, Jeroen van Meeuwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> My brain comes up with another variation: "Features Freedom", but my gut
> feeling already tells me I like the original better.
>
"Freedom is a feature" has the emotional impac
On 10/5/07, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
> My gut feeling tells me I disagree although my brain admits I haven't
> been using too much other distros lately; what distro (non-Fedora based)
> exactly does offer Freedom as much or as strong as Fedora does?
I would rather prefer a slogan(for fedora) whic
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 09:43 -0400, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
> What do people think of this as "The Slogan" of Fedora?
What's funny is, just the other day, I came up with two in the middle of
writing something: "Fedora means freedom" and "Fedora is freedom."
Anyway, similar sentiment but a differ
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 18:58 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> While some languages like English have reused nice pre-existing words
> for the "CS feature" concept, others use terribly contrived bureaucratic
> words, and I suspect some do not even have any local word for "feature".
> It's just not
Karsten Wade a écrit :
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 18:58 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
While some languages like English have reused nice pre-existing words
for the "CS feature" concept, others use terribly contrived bureaucratic
words, and I suspect some do not even have any local word for "feature
Karsten Wade a écrit :
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 09:43 -0400, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
What do people think of this as "The Slogan" of Fedora?
What's funny is, just the other day, I came up with two in the middle of
writing something: "Fedora means freedom" and "Fedora is freedom."
Anyway, simil
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 21:56 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Karsten Wade a écrit :
> > On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 18:58 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> >
> >> While some languages like English have reused nice pre-existing words
> >> for the "CS feature" concept, others use terribly contrived bureaucr
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 01:04:13PM -0400, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
> /me wonders if we need different slogans per language. Or even, give the
> local ambassadors the power to come up with their own Best Slogan.
Fedora certainly wouldn't be the first brand to vary its identifying marks
and/or ph
On 10/5/07, Karsten Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you said to me, "Freedom is a feature of our school," I would
> understand that meaning without knowing the CS-specific context. Why
> wouldn't that apply to the usage in Fedora?
>
> In other words, knowing the CS-specific meaning adds de
Karsten Wade a écrit :
If you said to me, "Freedom is a feature of our school," I would
understand that meaning without knowing the CS-specific context. Why
wouldn't that apply to the usage in Fedora?
Because feature as a general concept of "element", "part",
"characteristic" exists everywhe
I guess Freedom in fedora is not just a feature its the core and putting it as
a feature really reduce the whole idea. maybe we can say "Fedora: Freedom is
the essence" or "Fedora: where Freedom is the essence"
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Am Freitag, 5. Oktober 2007 22:20:02 schrieb John Babich:
> On 10/5/07, Karsten Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "Freedom is a feature, not a bug".
boring
> The point is that "Freedom is a feature" is a good slogan in that it
> translates well and provides fertile ground for further elaboratio
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 11:37 -0400, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> > What we should to to "protect": when we go live with the slogan for the
> > first
> > time we should do *a lot* of noise about it, not just put quietly a new
> > banner on the site.
>
> Ye
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I totally agree with you.
> From my German point - my feelings are divided about this slogan,
> easy to consume yes - because you will not think about it - it
> sounds like all of the slogans "freedom inside", "Fedora, the
> better way of live", "Fre
Chitlesh, thank you for your constructive criticism, but, please post them
on my blog, that would be more helpful. I revised that entry and posted
features that neither Fedora nor Ubuntu offer. I hope I was right, if not,
post your comments on my blog, thanks! In the meantime, I am looking
forwa
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 03:05:50AM +0300, Saadaldine AlSaidi wrote:
> I guess Freedom in fedora is not just a feature its the core and putting
> it as a feature really reduce the whole idea. maybe we can say "Fedora:
> Freedom is the essence" or "Fedora: where Freedom is the essence"
This is a ver
Matthew Miller wrote:
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 03:05:50AM +0300, Saadaldine AlSaidi wrote:
I guess Freedom in fedora is not just a feature its the core and putting
it as a feature really reduce the whole idea. maybe we can say "Fedora:
Freedom is the essence" or "Fedora: where Freedom is the esse
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 12:34:41AM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> Was there any argument against Karsten's variation of:
> "Fedora is freedom" ?
I think the original has such an immediate positive reaction for readers of
this list -- and I think for most of Fedora's core market, as well --
precisely
Matthew Miller wrote:
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 12:34:41AM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
Was there any argument against Karsten's variation of:
"Fedora is freedom" ?
I think the original has such an immediate positive reaction for readers of
this list -- and I think for most of Fedora's core market
Personally, i find such a debate to be a good thing overall. We get down to
the core of the issue. I think I support the "Freedom is a Feature" slogan
but there are also some good arguments against it/
On 10/6/07, Máirín Duffy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Matthew Miller wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 06
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