Re: Fedora more successful, developer-wise, than Ubuntu

2007-12-24 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Dec 23, 2007 7:46 PM, William Cattey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am concerned that Fedora and Red Hat are losing mindshare in a way that a few years down the line will kill the seed corn. There's no nice middle ground between Red Hat Enterprise with well established functionality, and

Re: Fedora more successful, developer-wise, than Ubuntu

2007-12-24 Thread Jon Stanley
On Dec 24, 2007 2:49 PM, Jeff Spaleta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Point to specific functionality... open functionality that Fedora doesn't have that we should. I think that what is being referred to here is the Ubuntu 'LTS' releases, that get long term support updates. I 'm kind of on the fence

Re: Fedora more successful, developer-wise, than Ubuntu

2007-12-24 Thread Jeroen van Meeuwen
Jon Stanley wrote: On Dec 24, 2007 2:49 PM, Jeff Spaleta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Point to specific functionality... open functionality that Fedora doesn't have that we should. I think that what is being referred to here is the Ubuntu 'LTS' releases, that get long term support updates. I 'm

Re: Fedora more successful, developer-wise, than Ubuntu

2007-12-24 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 04:02:39PM -0600, Jon Stanley wrote: and it's derivatives, a la CentOS. Someone looking for a free as in {speech,beer} distribution with long term support I tend to point towards CentOS, but maybe there is middle ground between that and the current Fedora that we don't

Re: Fedora more successful, developer-wise, than Ubuntu

2007-12-24 Thread Jeroen van Meeuwen
Jon Stanley wrote: The Fedora Project moves in with EPEL, Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux, perfectly suitable for a CentOS machine and with the same release and 'support' cycle. Not entirely sure what you mean here. I think what was being called for was a release whereby it's supported

Re: Fedora more successful, developer-wise, than Ubuntu

2007-12-24 Thread William Cattey
It turns out that 1000 seats at MIT are switching to Ubuntu from Enterprise. They will not be using LTS, because they expect to need more recent hardware drivers. They are switching to Ubuntu instead of Fedora even though they expect there will be an annual OS update of Ubuntu required,

Re: Fedora more successful, developer-wise, than Ubuntu

2007-12-24 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Dec 24, 2007 2:51 PM, William Cattey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: apt package management system makes a lot of the work to switch from our present tightly integrated OS + alternate versions of packages + additional packages to alternate versions and additional packages layered on a