Re: Fedora Mascot Idea....

2008-02-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Chad Bloem wrote: Fedora, I was looking at the Fedora WIKI page and I stumbled across the information regarding the need for a mascot. It mentioned that they wanted an animal design wrapped into the current icon. I slapped together an idea. Máirín Duffy was kind enough to suggest Inkscape (ha

Re: More statistics

2008-02-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Dimitris Glezos wrote: I saw this today: http://people.mozilla.com/~jscott/devcp/latest/ It's a stats dashboard, showing a high level picture of the project growth, which versions are used out there etc. Basically it's something like smolt, but targeted to users/marketing, more like our own m

Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better)

2008-02-08 Thread Jeffrey Tadlock
On Feb 8, 2008 12:07 PM, Rahul Sundaram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, Máirín Duffy wrote: >> What do folks think about this idea? >> >> fedoraproject.org being the website for the PROJECT, while a separate >> domain would be more focused towards uses of the project's output, >>

Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better)

2008-02-08 Thread Elio Tondo
Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, Máirín Duffy wrote: What do folks think about this idea? fedoraproject.org being the website for the PROJECT, while a separate domain would be more focused towards uses of the project's output, Fedora the linux distro itself? would something l

Re: More statistics

2008-02-08 Thread Max Spevack
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote: It's a stats dashboard, showing a high level picture of the project growth, which versions are used out there etc. Basically it's something like smolt, but targeted to users/marketing, more like our own manually-created fedoraproject.org/wiki/Statistic

Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better)

2008-02-08 Thread Greg DeKoenigsberg
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, Jeff Spaleta wrote: I'm not afraid of dividing traffic, I'm afraid of shallow traffic... people who hit an entry point and lose interest quickly because the page has the wrong information and get bored... or too much information and they get lost. So all this "website" talk

Re: making the website better

2008-02-08 Thread Juan Camilo Prada
On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 11:24 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: > Any interest in knocking out some answers to the following questions? > > > (1) Who is our target audience? > > (2) What are the goals of our target audience? > > (3) What are our goals? > Im starting to think that my replays are not b

Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better)

2008-02-08 Thread Máirín Duffy
Máirín Duffy wrote: ubuntu has: ubuntuforums.org fridge.ubuntu.com shop.canonical.com wiki.ubuntu.com a separate domain for almost every 'spin' - kubuntu.org, edubuntu.org, etc. let's not forget launchpad.net too. ~m -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com http

Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better)

2008-02-08 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:55:34 +0100 Elio Tondo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> would something like fedoralinux.org work? > > > > Or usefedora.org or getfedora.org. Sure. > > > > I like the idea of a purely user-focused website. > > +1 > > I would prefer fedoralinux.org. I would have some

Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better)

2008-02-08 Thread Alejandro Moncada
getfedora.org +1 2008/2/8, Elio Tondo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > > On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, Máirín Duffy wrote: > > > >> What do folks think about this idea? > >> > >> fedoraproject.org being the website for the PROJECT, while a separate > >> domain would be more focused tow

Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better)

2008-02-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Elio Tondo wrote: Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, Máirín Duffy wrote: What do folks think about this idea? fedoraproject.org being the website for the PROJECT, while a separate domain would be more focused towards uses of the project's output, Fedora the linux distro itself?

Re: More statistics

2008-02-08 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Feb 8, 2008 9:02 AM, John Poelstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Absolutely! Turning off yum-updatesd is part of my rebuild script for > new installs for the reason you've stated. I hate it :) So... can we have a heartbeat process that isn't tied to update questing? -jef -- Fedora-marketing

Re: More statistics

2008-02-08 Thread Greg DeKoenigsberg
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Feb 8, 2008 9:02 AM, John Poelstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Absolutely! Turning off yum-updatesd is part of my rebuild script for new installs for the reason you've stated. I hate it :) So... can we have a heartbeat process that isn't tied to upda

Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better)

2008-02-08 Thread Máirín Duffy
Jeffrey Tadlock wrote: On Feb 8, 2008 1:32 PM, Máirín Duffy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For some historical background, the fpo site was such a link farm (or landing page, either one is bad I think) with six links on it. It didn't work well and the domain was eventually changed to point directly

Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better)

2008-02-08 Thread Franz Robert
>From: Max Spevack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better) >To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base > >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Rahul is right -- an in

Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better)

2008-02-08 Thread Michael Beckwith
I think it'd be possible to divide the current fp.o url into the specific parts, it would just include 1 more click. Perhaps on the root domain, we sort of wipe it clean and provide 3 major links: "For Developers", "For Users", "For Community Members" or whatever audiences we've determined. The

Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better)

2008-02-08 Thread Máirín Duffy
Jeffrey Tadlock wrote: On Feb 8, 2008 12:42 PM, Jeff Spaleta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here's the problem we want to solve... too much information to dissiminate. Yes, we have a lot of information to disseminate to largely different audiences. I agree with that point. Putting this informati

Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better)

2008-02-08 Thread Max Spevack
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, Jeffrey Tadlock wrote: On Feb 8, 2008 12:07 PM, Rahul Sundaram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, Máirín Duffy wrote: What do folks think about this idea? fedoraproject.org being the website for the PROJECT, while a separate domain would be more focused towards

What do you think the important news for fedora come from?

2008-02-08 Thread Juan Camilo Prada
As i said in another post, I'm working on adding a news section to fp.org, so i would like to know what you people think it would be good to add as a feeder. I already though about fedora weekly news. So is there any other fedora-related news/article/whatever feed?? -- Fedora-marketing-list maili

Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better)

2008-02-08 Thread Máirín Duffy
Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, Jeff Spaleta wrote: I'm not afraid of dividing traffic, I'm afraid of shallow traffic... people who hit an entry point and lose interest quickly because the page has the wrong information and get bored... or too much information and they get lost.

Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better)

2008-02-08 Thread Greg DeKoenigsberg
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, Máirín Duffy wrote: What do folks think about this idea? fedoraproject.org being the website for the PROJECT, while a separate domain would be more focused towards uses of the project's output, Fedora the linux distro itself? would something like fedoralinux.org work?

Re: What do you think the important news for fedora come from?

2008-02-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Juan Camilo Prada wrote: As i said in another post, I'm working on adding a news section to fp.org, so i would like to know what you people think it would be good to add as a feeder. I already though about fedora weekly news. So is there any other fedora-related news/article/whatever feed?? You

Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better)

2008-02-08 Thread Jeffrey Tadlock
On Feb 8, 2008 12:42 PM, Jeff Spaleta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's the problem we want to solve... too much information to dissiminate. Yes, we have a lot of information to disseminate to largely different audiences. I agree with that point. Putting this information at different domain na

separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better)

2008-02-08 Thread Máirín Duffy
What do folks think about this idea? fedoraproject.org being the website for the PROJECT, while a separate domain would be more focused towards uses of the project's output, Fedora the linux distro itself? would something like fedoralinux.org work? Or are we barking up the wrong tree? ~m E

Re: Alpha Release Day Metrics

2008-02-08 Thread Jonathan Roberts
On 08/02/2008, Jeff Spaleta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd volunteer a few dozen KK doughnuts to anyone who can take a lead > role in channeling the energy on fedora-list into a steady rising > pressure of activism, engineered to explode on release day. I hate > people, so I know it won't be me.

Re: What do you think the important news for fedora come from?

2008-02-08 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Feb 8, 2008 12:23 PM, Juan Camilo Prada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As i said in another post, I'm working on adding a news section to > fp.org, so i would like to know what you people think it would be good > to add as a feeder. I already though about fedora weekly news. So is > there any othe

Re: More statistics

2008-02-08 Thread John Poelstra
Jeff Spaleta said the following on 02/07/2008 11:21 PM Pacific Time: I also personally think people are still turning off yum-updatesd out of ingrained habit. yum-updatesd is the closest thing to what mozilla has in terms of a heartbeat. Unfortunately yum-updatesd continues to get in the way of

Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better)

2008-02-08 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Feb 8, 2008 8:25 AM, Jeffrey Tadlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By bringing people into the Fedora community through a main landing > page it should also make messaging to the community a little easier, > as we would have one main place to put that special banner announcing > the upcoming FudC

Re: making the website better

2008-02-08 Thread Máirín Duffy
Any interest in knocking out some answers to the following questions? > (1) Who is our target audience? > (2) What are the goals of our target audience? > (3) What are our goals? Máirín Duffy wrote: - Who is the audience for these pages? Who is NOT the audience for these pages? 1- Windows and

Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better)

2008-02-08 Thread Máirín Duffy
Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Feb 8, 2008 8:25 AM, Jeffrey Tadlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: By bringing people into the Fedora community through a main landing page it should also make messaging to the community a little easier, as we would have one main place to put that special banner announcing th

Re: What do you think the important news for fedora come from?

2008-02-08 Thread Juan Camilo Prada
On Sat, 2008-02-09 at 04:04 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Juan Camilo Prada wrote: > > As i said in another post, I'm working on adding a news section to > > fp.org, so i would like to know what you people think it would be good > > to add as a feeder. I already though about fedora weekly news. S

Re: making the website better

2008-02-08 Thread Máirín Duffy
Juan Camilo Prada wrote: On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 11:24 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: Any interest in knocking out some answers to the following questions? > (1) Who is our target audience? > (2) What are the goals of our target audience? > (3) What are our goals? Im starting to think that my r

Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better)

2008-02-08 Thread Máirín Duffy
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Elio Tondo wrote: Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, Máirín Duffy wrote: What do folks think about this idea? fedoraproject.org being the website for the PROJECT, while a separate domain would be more focused towards uses of the project's output, Fedora th

Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better)

2008-02-08 Thread Elio Tondo
Michael Beckwith wrote: I think it'd be possible to divide the current fp.o url into the specific parts, it would just include 1 more click. Perhaps on the root domain, we sort of wipe it clean and provide 3 major links: "For Developers", "For Users", "For Community Members" or whatever audien

Re: Alpha Release Day Metrics

2008-02-08 Thread Russell Harrison
On Feb 8, 2008 11:04 AM, Jonathan Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Short list: > > 1) Digg (or submit to whatever your favorite news site is - Karsten's > suggestion of one item a week from the bits that crop up on > f-marketing-l seems like it would be quite a good start) Can't we just drop t

Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better)

2008-02-08 Thread Jeffrey Tadlock
On Feb 8, 2008 1:32 PM, Máirín Duffy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For some historical background, the fpo site was such a link farm (or > landing page, either one is bad I think) with six links on it. It didn't > work well and the domain was eventually changed to point directly to the > wiki. See:

Re: making the website better

2008-02-08 Thread Máirín Duffy
Hey Juan, Juan Camilo Prada wrote: BTW, Máirín, i'd like to know if i might have access to the designs you made for the Spins website. I want to work a bit about making the spins more noticeable. Also I'm already working on fp.org by adding a news section with the Fedora weekly news RSS. So I

Re: More statistics

2008-02-08 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Feb 8, 2008 9:32 AM, Greg DeKoenigsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Should be easy to get into F9 if we decide to do it -- but you're looking > at a board-level decision, I think. Fortunately, Jeff, you're on the > board. Also, you're extremely persuasive. Threaten a robotic telescope > fili

Re: separate fpo domain? (was Re: making the website better)

2008-02-08 Thread Jeffrey Tadlock
On Feb 8, 2008 2:39 PM, Máirín Duffy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh I didn't mean to say you were, sorry about that. I meant to show them > as an example of what I think people are thinking when you're talking > about a central point of contact. No wonder people thought I was nuts then! > I d

Re: making the website better

2008-02-08 Thread Juan Camilo Prada
On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 19:39 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: > Hey Juan, > > Juan Camilo Prada wrote: > > BTW, Máirín, i'd like to know if i might have access to the designs you > > made for the Spins website. I want to work a bit about making the spins > > more noticeable. Also I'm already working on

Re: More statistics

2008-02-08 Thread Jeroen van Meeuwen
Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Feb 7, 2008 8:32 AM, Dimitris Glezos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sounds like something we'd like to have as well for Fedora? What I want...what I really really want is a very simple heartbeat that is on for all fedora clients by default.. that does NOT get in the way o

Re: What do you think the important news for fedora come from?

2008-02-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Juan Camilo Prada wrote: As i said in another post, I'm working on adding a news section to fp.org, so i would like to know what you people think it would be good to add as a feeder. I already though about fedora weekly news. So is there any other fedora-related news/article/whatever feed?? Oh

Re: More statistics

2008-02-08 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Feb 8, 2008 4:31 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How about smolt only submitting the hardware data if the user chooses to > do so, and otherwise just getting it's uuid in the database, instead of > letting the user disable it entirely? Smolt right now isn't a heartbeat... i

Re: Generic Fedora Poster Designs for Events

2008-02-08 Thread Máirín Duffy
Hi folks, I've updated the posters using the color suggestions from John Adams and the text Paul Frields gave me in my blog [1] (with one minor mod) and some layout suggestions from Robin Norwood in IRC (the original design had the infinity sign flattened, it's readjusted to resemble its posi

Re: making the website better

2008-02-08 Thread Juan Camilo Prada
On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 19:39 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: > So I saw your RSS stuff - awesome work! > > Here are the spins mocks with SVG source: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/Spins > > ~m > I played with the mocks a little bit and i got something to show, the post is already in the