Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: slashdot

Jeff Spaleta wrote: On 8/31/06, Rahul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would love to see some people get together and do this. If there is really interest in this, that would happen. To put the issue of Yast into perspective... has any of its supporters to date, since its licensing change, made an

Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: slashdot

On 8/31/06, Rahul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would love to see some people get together and do this. If there is really interest in this, that would happen. To put the issue of Yast into perspective... has any of its supporters to date, since its licensing change, made any effort to get it pa

Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: slashdot

Steve Barnhart wrote: Ya I really am saddened that no other distros have taken advantage of YaST being open source. Everyone keeps wasting resources and rebuilding when YaST is a good alternative and includes an ncurses gui too. I really like YaST and is probably the reason I keep having a hard t

Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: slashdot

Should we take this discussion to a "more technical" list? > Ya I really am saddened that no other distros have taken advantage of > YaST being open source. Everyone keeps wasting resources and > rebuilding when YaST is a good alternative and includes an ncurses gui > too. I really like YaST and i

Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: slashdot

Ya I really am saddened that no other distros have taken advantage of YaST being open source. Everyone keeps wasting resources and rebuilding when YaST is a good alternative and includes an ncurses gui too. I really like YaST and is probably the reason I keep having a hard time deciding between Fe

[Fedora-marketing-list] Re: slashdot

So here i am again. I've let settle down a little dust in the discussion with Raul.From a Marketing point (yes, techicians ALL hates marketing) point how can/want we "force" the developers to appeal more customers ? And i do not mean professional ones which uses XEN or SElinux in a "conscious" way

Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Slashdot interview with Fedora Project leader Max Spevack

On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 21:48 +, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > I am personally developing for dolphins and dolphin-human hybrids! > ... > interbreed with the new dominant species to thrive in a new undersea > world. You did WHAT to a dolphin Does the RSPCA know about this? -tejas"Freaked out of m

Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: slashdot

On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 10:11:41PM +, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > choices will be made regarding whether or not to enable them. And if > Fedora is to be about anything.. it should strive to be about informed > choice. For aquatic mammals. -- Matthew Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: slashdot

On 8/23/06, Matthew Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >From yum's point of view, they are all defined as separate repositories. If you mean something different, it's confusing to use the same terminology -- do you mean something like "package provider" or "vendor"? Here is the crux of the probl

Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Slashdot interview with Fedora Project leader Max Spevack

Jeff Spaleta wrote: On 8/21/06, Rahul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I dont adore that quote. What are we developing Fedora for if not human beings or are people who use other distributions aliens? ;-) I am personally developing for dolphins and dolphin-human hybrids! Come join me in developing so

Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Slashdot interview with Fedora Project leader Max Spevack

On 8/21/06, Rahul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I dont adore that quote. What are we developing Fedora for if not human beings or are people who use other distributions aliens? ;-) I am personally developing for dolphins and dolphin-human hybrids! Come join me in developing software for the future

Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Slashdot interview with FedoraProjectleader Max Spevack

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tejas Dinkar escribió: > On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 14:54 +0200, Nicola Losito wrote: >> [GPM original message] However now knowing that Fedora is "no >> longer" a "Linux power user/enthusiast" distro any more (or so I >> deduce from some of the postings an

Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Slashdot interview with Fedora Project leader Max Spevack

Tejas Dinkar wrote: On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 14:54 +0200, Nicola Losito wrote: [GPM original message] However now knowing that Fedora is "no longer" a "Linux power user/enthusiast" distro any more (or so I deduce from some of the postings and points made by Rahul), I'd really be interested, as I te

Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: slashdot

On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 12:13:36AM +0530, Tejas Dinkar wrote: > On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 21:17 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > Well, here's the repo count for your example: > > core [snip everything] > You Do know that you have just given about 5 repos. No. Do you? > core-updates-development all h

Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Slashdot interview with Fedora Project leader Max Spevack

On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 14:54 +0200, Nicola Losito wrote: > [GPM original message] However now knowing that Fedora is "no longer" > a "Linux power user/enthusiast" distro any more (or so I deduce from > some of the postings and points made by Rahul), I'd really be > interested, as I tended to think t

Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: slashdot

Tejas Dinkar wrote: On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 21:17 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: Well, here's the repo count for your example: core core-debuginfo core-source development development-debuginfo development-source extras-development extras-development-debuginfo extras-development-source extras extras

Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: slashdot

On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 21:17 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > Well, here's the repo count for your example: > > core > core-debuginfo > core-source > development > development-debuginfo > development-source > extras-development > extras-development-debuginfo > extras-development-source > extras > ext

Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: slashdot

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rahul escribió: > Gian Paolo Mureddu wrote: > >> Even though I'd be most interested on hearing/reading what does Max >> think about Ubuntu, I'm not sure if his input on the subject more >> directly than what it was would have been all that beneficial,

Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Slashdot interview with Fedora Project leader Max Spevack

Nicola Losito wrote: Given that "non free" or "troble maker" packages has to stay away from RedHat owned network (and so it's mirror) i then ask: - how comes there's so muck fragmentation in Extras, Livna, RPMforge and on Livna has non-free packages and Fedora Extras does not carry non-free

[Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Slashdot interview with Fedora Project leader Max Spevack

Il giorno 23/ago/06, alle ore 12:09, Rahul ha scritto:OKbut to me it seems you're avoiding to see my point :-) Just that your point was perhaps not clear to me.It's a pity, because Gian Paolo has understood me, maybe his words are more clear than mine:[GPM original message]However now knowing that 

Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: slashdot

Gian Paolo Mureddu wrote: Even though I'd be most interested on hearing/reading what does Max think about Ubuntu, I'm not sure if his input on the subject more directly than what it was would have been all that beneficial, for the discussion and the whole Fedora "angle". However now knowing tha

Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Slashdot interview with Fedora Project leader Max Spevack

Nicola Losito wrote: Il giorno 22/ago/06, alle ore 06:16, Rahul ha scritto: Nicola Losito wrote: When you install and run Ubuntu you got enabled a bunch of features that doesn't make feel the user on his own (Gnome sounds enabled, when i'm supposed to enter the sudo password the screen goes

Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: slashdot

Nicola Losito wrote: I'd like to read "Fedora does not encourage, endorse or include" leaving open some doors. You said Fedora Project will not include mp3 codecs. Thats not going to change as long as it is a proprietary patent encumbered format. In any case in the mail exchange with

Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: slashdot

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nicola Losito escribió: > > Il giorno 23/ago/06, alle ore 00:37, Max Spevack ha scritto: > > That's because on the last question "Have you tried Ubuntu > yourself? Is there, in your opinion, something Ubuntu does > better than Fedora?" Max

Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Slashdot interview with Fedora Project leader Max Spevack

Nicola Losito wrote: Il giorno 22/ago/06, alle ore 06:16, Rahul ha scritto: So boils down to eye candy basically. Nope. It boild down paying attention to fancier, little, useful visual and "desktop" tricks, that enhance user experience (hidden window asking for root password instead of som

[Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Slashdot interview with Fedora Project leader Max Spevack

Il giorno 22/ago/06, alle ore 06:16, Rahul ha scritto:Nicola Losito wrote: When you install and run Ubuntu you got enabled a bunch of features that doesn't make feel the user on his own (Gnome sounds enabled, when i'm supposed to enter the sudo password the screen goes dark leaving only the appropr

[Fedora-marketing-list] Re: slashdot

Il giorno 23/ago/06, alle ore 00:37, Max Spevack ha scritto:That's because on the last question "Have you tried Ubuntu yourself? Is there, in your opinion, something Ubuntu does better than Fedora?" Max didn't actually answered. He cites the main site/wiki efficency and the fist second impression o

Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: slashdot

On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 06:37:26PM -0400, Max Spevack wrote: > Wow. 14? What are you doing with 14 repos? > Core, Extras, and maybe 1 third party repo should be almost anything that > someone needs unless there's some very specialized work happening. Well, here's the repo count for your example

[Fedora-marketing-list] Re: slashdot

Thought I'd chime in a little bit here: That's because on the last question "Have you tried Ubuntu yourself? Is there, in your opinion, something Ubuntu does better than Fedora?" Max didn't actually answered. He cites the main site/wiki efficency and the fist second impression of a missing Net

Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Slashdot interview with Fedora Project leader Max Spevack

Nicola Losito wrote: When you install and run Ubuntu you got enabled a bunch of features that doesn't make feel the user on his own (Gnome sounds enabled, when i'm supposed to enter the sudo password the screen goes dark leaving only the appropriate window "illuminated" and some other fancie

[Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Slashdot interview with Fedora Project leader Max Spevack

Il giorno 21/ago/06, alle ore 17:24, Rahul ha scritto:Nicola Losito wrote: http://interviews.slashdot.org/interviews/06/08/17/177220.shtml Does the interview actually ends up with Max saying "Which is why I think a lot of the OSS "religious wars" don't make a lot of sense." ??If so i am a bit disap

Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Slashdot interview with Fedora Project leader Max Spevack

Nicola Losito wrote: Il giorno 18/ago/06, alle ore 16:34, Rahul ha scritto: Hi http://interviews.slashdot.org/interviews/06/08/17/177220.shtml Does the interview actually ends up with Max saying "Which is why I think a lot of the OSS "religious wars" don't make a lot of sense." ?? If so

[Fedora-marketing-list] Re: Slashdot interview with Fedora Project leader Max Spevack

Il giorno 18/ago/06, alle ore 16:34, Rahul ha scritto:Hihttp://interviews.slashdot.org/interviews/06/08/17/177220.shtml Does the interview actually ends up with Max saying "Which is why I think a lot of the OSS "religious wars" don't make a lot of sense." ??If so i am a bit disappointed :-)That's b