Re: Announcing the "fedoraLife" Concept!

2008-06-12 Thread RazGriz
Hi, yes! Let me do it now On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Nicu Buculei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> RazGriz wrote: >> >>> >>> About F-art studio i will subscripe in this list right now but, i am not >>> a member of the international artwork team, is there any problems

Re: Announcing the "fedoraLife" Concept!

2008-06-12 Thread Nicu Buculei
Rahul Sundaram wrote: RazGriz wrote: About F-art studio i will subscripe in this list right now but, i am not a member of the international artwork team, is there any problems with it ? Nope. The list is open to everyone and everyone is welcome to contribute. As Rahul said, the list is op

Re: Announcing the "fedoraLife" Concept!

2008-06-12 Thread Rahul Sundaram
RazGriz wrote: Hi, well...here in my country people know me cause i am a document writer *(yes, i make documents about computer graphics with free software since 2005 =]), then i proposed to Erick take our work and make an little event with this stuff, i think that it can work =]. About F-ar

Re: Announcing the "fedoraLife" Concept!

2008-06-12 Thread RazGriz
Hi, well...here in my country people know me cause i am a document writer *(yes, i make documents about computer graphics with free software since 2005 =]), then i proposed to Erick take our work and make an little event with this stuff, i think that it can work =]. About F-art studio i will subsc

Re: Announcing the "fedoraLife" Concept!

2008-06-12 Thread Erick Henrique
Sorry The name of the event is " FedorArt". Hugs Erick Goes On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Erick Henrique <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Máirín Duffy > > "I always make point you let them know the graphics were made with > Inkscape, Gimp, and/or Scribus. " > > +1 > > To say a little on that

Re: Announcing the "fedoraLife" Concept!

2008-06-12 Thread Erick Henrique
Hi Máirín Duffy "I always make point you let them know the graphics were made with Inkscape, Gimp, and/or Scribus. " +1 To say a little on that free tools had been used to develop a promocional work, or same of spreading of Fedora Linux is really important. Recently the Project Fedora Brazil lau

Re: Announcing the "fedoraLife" Concept!

2008-06-12 Thread Máirín Duffy
RazGriz wrote: Hi, i agree with you, i just said their words, we don't need add this things to the core, we need change the way that we use to deal with the common user =], they just don't know nothing about the real freedom of choice and most of then just don't wanna learn anything about it, b

Re: Announcing the "fedoraLife" Concept!

2008-06-12 Thread Nicu Buculei
Máirín Duffy wrote: RazGriz wrote: Hi, i think that the problem is not inside the product *(fedora) but inside some minds...there are some people inside the project fedora *(here in my country i can see it every day in some ambassadors and other members of the project), they just say : "Fedora

Re: Announcing the "fedoraLife" Concept!

2008-06-12 Thread RazGriz
Hi, i agree with you, i just said their words, we don't need add this things to the core, we need change the way that we use to deal with the common user =], they just don't know nothing about the real freedom of choice and most of then just don't wanna learn anything about it, but we still can tak

Re: Announcing the "fedoraLife" Concept!

2008-06-11 Thread Máirín Duffy
hi RazGriz, RazGriz wrote: Hi, i think that the problem is not inside the product *(fedora) but inside some minds...there are some people inside the project fedora *(here in my country i can see it every day in some ambassadors and other members of the project), they just say : "Fedora is not

Re: Announcing the "fedoraLife" Concept!

2008-06-11 Thread RazGriz
Hi, i think that the problem is not inside the product *(fedora) but inside some minds...there are some people inside the project fedora *(here in my country i can see it every day in some ambassadors and other members of the project), they just say : "Fedora is not for everyone cause we don't wann

Re: Announcing the "fedoraLife" Concept!

2008-06-11 Thread Nicu Buculei
Duvelle Jones wrote: Ok, the first thing that I mention here is that fedora is a very different kind of monster than that of Mac OS X/10.x. That said, the fedora project doesn't need to completely go down the path that Apple Inc. has. As you said that in the document, Ubuntu seems to content to f

Re: Announcing the "fedoraLife" Concept!

2008-06-11 Thread Máirín Duffy
Duvelle Jones wrote: Just that we would be up against Fedora's ever so changing perception and at the moment, "usability and user-friendliness" seems somewhat off that perception. - How can you say Fedora's perception is 'ever so changing'? What is that statement based on? - How do you see

Re: Announcing the "fedoraLife" Concept!

2008-06-11 Thread Duvelle Jones
Just that we would be up against Fedora's ever so changing perception and at the moment, "usability and user-friendliness" seems somewhat off that perception. That doesn't mean that we aren't, hell there is much in fedora that would turn that perception on it's head. But as with Red Hat, our own

Re: Announcing the "fedoraLife" Concept!

2008-06-11 Thread Máirín Duffy
Duvelle Jones wrote: That would be somewhat hard to do, with fedora anyway. Why would that be difficult to do if Ubuntu was able to do it? I don't understand. ~m -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-l

Re: Announcing the "fedoraLife" Concept!

2008-06-11 Thread Duvelle Jones
That would be somewhat hard to do, with fedora anyway. On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 23:20 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: > It's all smoke and mirrors. I think what Markus is getting at is that we > need to develop that perception of usability and user-friendliness in > our marketing materials. Somehow Ubun

Re: Announcing the "fedoraLife" Concept!

2008-06-11 Thread Máirín Duffy
Duvelle Jones wrote: I'll be honest, I am not sure... Ubuntu is known for more polish than most distro's, so I am going mostly by what I have seen and heard. Doesn't mean that it's true. It's all smoke and mirrors. I think what Markus is getting at is that we need to develop that perception of

Re: Announcing the "fedoraLife" Concept!

2008-06-11 Thread Duvelle Jones
I'll be honest, I am not sure... Ubuntu is known for more polish than most distro's, so I am going mostly by what I have seen and heard. Doesn't mean that it's true. On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 21:57 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: > Duvelle Jones wrote: > > Second, in an odd way of thinking This has alr

Re: Announcing the "fedoraLife" Concept!

2008-06-11 Thread Máirín Duffy
Duvelle Jones wrote: Second, in an odd way of thinking This has already happened, sort of. The Fedora Art Studio spin does use that is found within the distribution to build something that you here have coined 'fedoraLife'. Now admiringly, the tools and applications found in Art Studio are no

Re: Announcing the "fedoraLife" Concept!

2008-06-11 Thread Duvelle Jones
Ok, the first thing that I mention here is that fedora is a very different kind of monster than that of Mac OS X/10.x. That said, the fedora project doesn't need to completely go down the path that Apple Inc. has. As you said that in the document, Ubuntu seems to content to fill that hole. I think

Announcing the "fedoraLife" Concept!

2008-06-11 Thread Markus McLaughlin
What Apple does for its OS is what Fedora should also do. Which is a collection of additional optional software that can do multimedia and enhance existing technologies. The "fedoraLife" Concept is several visuals accompanied by descriptions that will inspire many Fedora programmers to come up wi