Bleeding-edge Fedora

2008-05-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi, Someone should write a response. Feel free to brainstorm here. http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20080519mode=67#news Fedora 9 was released last week. As many users have discovered since then, the latest version of Red Hat's community distribution is a rather adventurous mix of

Re: Bleeding-edge Fedora

2008-05-19 Thread Greg DeKoenigsberg
On Mon, 19 May 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi, Someone should write a response. Feel free to brainstorm here. Dear Distrowatch, you're completely correct in your analysis. I mean, aren't they? I'm not sure what kind of response is required. --g

Re: Bleeding-edge Fedora

2008-05-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: On Mon, 19 May 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi, Someone should write a response. Feel free to brainstorm here. Dear Distrowatch, you're completely correct in your analysis. I mean, aren't they? I'm not sure what kind of response is required. . If you are a

Re: Bleeding-edge Fedora

2008-05-19 Thread Juan Camilo Prada
On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 19:40 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: On Mon, 19 May 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi, Someone should write a response. Feel free to brainstorm here. Dear Distrowatch, you're completely correct in your analysis. I mean, aren't they?

Re: Bleeding-edge Fedora

2008-05-19 Thread Greg DeKoenigsberg
On Mon, 19 May 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote: . If you are a Fedora fan, but would prefer your Linux desktop to have fewer experimental software packages, you might want to postpone the upgrade for a month or two, or investigate one of the distributions with a policy of shipping stable and

Re: Bleeding-edge Fedora

2008-05-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Juan Camilo Prada wrote: It doesnt really implies that, it only means that fedora is bleeding edge, which doesnt mean we dont test our packages. We have to disagree on what that means. There are good reason for us providing a pre-release of Xorg for example. Those choices can still be

Re: Bleeding-edge Fedora

2008-05-19 Thread Jon Stanley
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Rahul Sundaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely. We make a pretty big effort on testing what we ship however and that should still be recognized. . Recognized? Sure. But we *cannot* simply sit back and rest on our laurels of producing a quality

Re: Bleeding-edge Fedora

2008-05-19 Thread Mike McGrath
On Mon, 19 May 2008, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: On Mon, 19 May 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote: . If you are a Fedora fan, but would prefer your Linux desktop to have fewer experimental software packages, you might want to postpone the upgrade for a month or two, or investigate one of the

Re: Bleeding-edge Fedora

2008-05-19 Thread Jon Stanley
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Mike McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Side note about this... Does anyone know if we have a public list of what our test matrix is? I'd be happy to test and sign off on some things but I don't know what we do to test. Sure thing -

Re: Bleeding-edge Fedora

2008-05-19 Thread Greg DeKoenigsberg
On Mon, 19 May 2008, Mike McGrath wrote: Side note about this... Does anyone know if we have a public list of what our test matrix is? I'd be happy to test and sign off on some things but I don't know what we do to test. Jon Stanley. Paging Jon Stanley. :) I don't think we have one. I

Re: Bleeding-edge Fedora

2008-05-19 Thread Mike McGrath
On Mon, 19 May 2008, Jon Stanley wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Mike McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Side note about this... Does anyone know if we have a public list of what our test matrix is? I'd be happy to test and sign off on some things but I don't know what we do to

Re: Bleeding-edge Fedora

2008-05-19 Thread Greg DeKoenigsberg
On Mon, 19 May 2008, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: On Mon, 19 May 2008, Mike McGrath wrote: Side note about this... Does anyone know if we have a public list of what our test matrix is? I'd be happy to test and sign off on some things but I don't know what we do to test. Jon Stanley. Paging

Re: Bleeding-edge Fedora

2008-05-19 Thread Jon Stanley
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Greg DeKoenigsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TreeTestingTemplate As with a lot of things on the wiki, this is out of date :( We're going with the matrices that have spots for folks to put their names, etc. --

Re: Bleeding-edge Fedora

2008-05-19 Thread Mike McGrath
On Mon, 19 May 2008, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: On Mon, 19 May 2008, Jon Stanley wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Mike McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Side note about this... Does anyone know if we have a public list of what our test matrix is? I'd be happy to test and sign

Re: Bleeding-edge Fedora

2008-05-19 Thread Jeffrey Tadlock
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Greg DeKoenigsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look, we're getting *really* favorable coverage for F9. I expect that coverage will continue. I think this is a case of taking criticism graciously, admitting our imperfections, and working to do better next time.