Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?

2009-02-02 Thread Ashiqur Rahman Angel
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:35 AM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > 2009/2/1 Ashiqur Rahman Angel : > > Nop. People are using Ubuntu from all over the world. And that´s why > Ubuntu > > is most popular. > > > Fedora is used all over the world! > > http://fedoraproject.org/maps/f10/f10.i386.png > > That is a sn

Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?

2009-02-02 Thread Jeff Spaleta
2009/2/1 Ashiqur Rahman Angel : > Nop. People are using Ubuntu from all over the world. And that´s why Ubuntu > is most popular. Fedora is used all over the world! http://fedoraproject.org/maps/f10/f10.i386.png That is a snapshot of of unique ips that requested a mirror list from our MirrorMana

Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?

2009-02-02 Thread Ashiqur Rahman Angel
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > > Not closed-source, but patented. > There is a fundamental difference between: > O.S.S. and F.O.S.S. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software#Open_source_software_vs._free_software > I apologies for the mistake. I meant patented

Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?

2009-02-01 Thread Frank Murphy
1st Apologies for cross post. (aaagh, Top-Post) Can we centralise all future-replies be kept to Ambassadors-List. Ashiqur Rahman Angel wrote: > When did I say, we have to include close source software with Fedora? I > didn´t say it. All I just wish, easiest way of the solutions of this > issues.

Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?

2009-02-01 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ashiqur Rahman Angel a écrit :| | | See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/GStreamer_dependencies_in_RPM | Fedora Project will never have repository for those closed source or patented codecs on which RPM Fusion is taking care. | | | I

Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?

2009-02-01 Thread Gaurav Prabhu
--- On Sun, 1/2/09, Joseph Smidt wrote: From: Joseph Smidt Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect? To: fedora-ambassadors-l...@redhat.com Cc: "Fedora Infrastructure List" , "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" Date

Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?

2009-02-01 Thread Ashiqur Rahman Angel
When did I say, we have to include close source software with Fedora? I didn´t say it. All I just wish, easiest way of the solutions of this issues. So more people will start using Fedora. I am using Fedora from the beginning of the Fedora Core. Everything is easy for me. But think about a Window

Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?

2009-02-01 Thread Frank Murphy
Gregory Maxwell wrote: > Fedora has codec-buddy— which can help users legally obtain codecs > while informing them of the issues. Codec-Buddy? I think PackageKit\Gstreamer has replaced this functionality. Frank -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www

Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?

2009-02-01 Thread Ashiqur Rahman Angel
Exactly, what I wanted to say. On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Joseph Smidt wrote: > I think we are attacking the wrong goal. What people want is > that their OS "Just Works". > > What Fedora really needs to do is find a legal way to make all of > these things "Just Work". As long as

Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?

2009-02-01 Thread Joseph Smidt
I think we are attacking the wrong goal. What people want is that their OS "Just Works". What Fedora really needs to do is find a legal way to make all of these things "Just Work". As long as the OS just works, newbies will love it. Most people don't care if their driver came fr

Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?

2009-02-01 Thread Danishka Navin
2009/2/1 Kanin Horvath > The goal of fedora isn't to make it super easy for new users to Linux. > > That's ubuntu's job. > Whats wrong with "super easy" Operating System if it include all security capabilities? To whom you are developing this? Is this for geeks? or for every one (including new

Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?

2009-02-01 Thread Gregory Maxwell
2009/2/1 Ashiqur Rahman Angel : > 3. Need a GUI solution to install all kind of proprietary Multimedia codecs > (Ubuntu has ubuntu-restricted-extras, they simply select it from package > manager, and it installs all kind of codecs including JAVA) Fedora has codec-buddy— which can help users legall

Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?

2009-02-01 Thread Ashiqur Rahman Angel
According to Fedora Devel List, I have got some hope about this issues I have explained. May be soon we will get all the solutions. If not in this release (Fedora 11), then may be in Fedora 12. Thanks. 2009/2/1 Kanin Horvath > The goal of fedora isn't to make it super easy for new users to Lin

Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?

2009-02-01 Thread Kanin Horvath
The goal of fedora isn't to make it super easy for new users to Linux. That's ubuntu's job. Fedora aims to be a free, usable OS. I agree with some of your points but I don't think they are part of the goals of Fedora. Fedora isn't meant to compete with other operating systems. It aims to

Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?

2009-02-01 Thread Diego Escobar
Maybe this options could not be provided by default, but maybe a easy way to get it. Now, What do I expect? Personally I would like a Fedora faster on boot. Plymouth does a good work but in some cases there are not difference. I would like a better  integration/support for KDE. And, I would

Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?

2009-02-01 Thread Ashiqur Rahman Angel
Frank, very truth. But fact is this not just a numbers of users. This amount is huge. That´s why today I opened this thread. And as a FOSS contributor I cant say them to use MS or Apple product. And they way you are talking. Like, ¨That is what Fedora is about, not a numbers game. As an Ambassado

Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?

2009-02-01 Thread Frank Murphy
Ashiqur Rahman Angel wrote: > Hi, > Please try to understand me. The solution you are giving me, each of > this are very complex, atleast complex for newbie Linux users. I am a newbie to Linux, and find Fedora easier that Ubuntu\Debain. If you > really want to see a huge people to use Fedora, N

Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?

2009-02-01 Thread Ashiqur Rahman Angel
Thanks. Ok. I am forwarding it there. On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > 2009/2/1 Ashiqur Rahman Angel : > > Hi, > > > > It´s almost one year, I am with the Fedora community. In this one year, I > > met so many great people from Fedora community. I have visited hundreds > o

Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?

2009-02-01 Thread Jonathan Roberts
2009/2/1 Ashiqur Rahman Angel : > Hi, > > It´s almost one year, I am with the Fedora community. In this one year, I > met so many great people from Fedora community. I have visited hundreds of > forums, mailing lists. I meet so many people who uses Fedora (also who > doesn´t). I have learned so ma

Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?

2009-02-01 Thread Ashiqur Rahman Angel
Hi, Please try to understand me. The solution you are giving me, each of this are very complex, atleast complex for newbie Linux users. If you really want to see a huge people to use Fedora, we need each of this issues, a easiest proper solution. Trust me, if we can fix this issues, we will get a h

Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?

2009-02-01 Thread Ashiqur Rahman Angel
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: 1 > > Omega would cover that check announce list, based on F10. iirc > I know about Omega. I also made many Fedora Remixes, lately. But all this are Remix or Omega. But not the official Fedora. I don´t want to start promoting Omega instead of Fe

Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?

2009-02-01 Thread Ashiqur Rahman Angel
2009/2/1 Luya Tshimbalanga > > | > Because of legal issue as you stated, Fedora cannot install RPM Fusion with > default installation. User can do it with Installer. I haven't tried > KPackageKit so I presume it is a bug for that application should it not be > able to install that repository. >

Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?

2009-02-01 Thread Frank Murphy
Ashiqur Rahman Angel wrote: > Hi, > > 1. Need to include RPM Fusion with Fedora 11 Omega would cover that check announce list, based on F10. iirc default installation (but > not activated, like Fedora test repo or raw hide, as we don´t include > proprietary software). If this is not possible (

Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?

2009-02-01 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ashiqur Rahman Angel a écrit : | | | | 1. Need to include RPM Fusion with Fedora 11 default installation (but not activated, like Fedora test repo or raw hide

Fedora 11: What do we expect?

2009-02-01 Thread Ashiqur Rahman Angel
Hi, It´s almost one year, I am with the Fedora community. In this one year, I met so many great people from Fedora community. I have visited hundreds of forums, mailing lists. I meet so many people who uses Fedora (also who doesn´t). I have learned so many things from them. Some of them are happy