-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg
Dekoenigsberg
Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2007 9:29 PM
To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base
Subject: Re: How to compete against Ubuntu
On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, Gian Paolo
On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, Gian Paolo Mureddu wrote:
Greg Dekoenigsberg escribió:
Mostly I agree, but one note here: if there is one group to whom we should
be more aggressively "marketing", it is to potential contributors. Fedora
needs to be more about contributors, and therefore making the lives
Greg Dekoenigsberg escribió:
Mostly I agree, but one note here: if there is one group to whom we
should be more aggressively "marketing", it is to potential
contributors. Fedora needs to be more about contributors, and
therefore making the lives of contributors easier.
--g
Couldn't agr
Bryan J. Smith wrote:
> Greg hit it on the nose IMHO. There is a reason why Debian and
> Fedora still get a lot of contributors. That's because that is their
> focus. ;)
>
I'm glad you appreciate the focus. Amazed, but pleasantly surprised. I'm
often not looking back as much as anyone else may
"Bryan J. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Last time I checked recently, PCLinux OS is still "picking up the
> pieces" of all that. ;)
Okay, I had better clarify that ...
PCLinux OS has "taken over the home consumer mindshare" of that
other, allegedly, now former, "new, better than Red Hat" o
Greg Dekoenigsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mostly I agree, but one note here: if there is one group to whom we
> should be more aggressively "marketing", it is to potential
> contributors. Fedora needs to be more about contributors, and
> therefore making the lives of contributors easier.
Oh
On Sun, 5 Aug 2007, Bryan J. Smith wrote:
Listen, all projects stand on the shoulders of giants. Most people
don't care. They care about marketing. I think Fedora should continue
to and keep doing what it does best, feed the leading edge developments.
This is what I liked about Red Hat Linux
On Sun, 2007-08-05 at 12:59 -0400, Jeremy Hogan wrote:
> Compared to Ubuntu? When I hear Ubunutu advocates, I hear how friendly
> the UI is, how great the community is. When I hear about Fedora, I
> hear about Red Hat, I hear about features.
I think the continued point I'm trying to make is that
Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
On 8/5/07, Jeremy Hogan wrote:
Compared to Ubuntu? When I hear Ubunutu advocates, I hear how friendly the
UI is, how great the community is. When I hear about Fedora, I hear about
Red Hat, I hear about features.
Except Jono Bacon. He talks only about Mark Shuttleworth an
On 8/5/07, Jeremy Hogan wrote:
> Compared to Ubuntu? When I hear Ubunutu advocates, I hear how friendly the
> UI is, how great the community is. When I hear about Fedora, I hear about
> Red Hat, I hear about features.
Except Jono Bacon. He talks only about Mark Shuttleworth and his
fantastic job.
On 8/4/07, Bryan J. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > They also made it a core value to be a warm and inviting community,
>
> And Fedora is not?
Compared to Ubuntu? When I hear Ubunutu advocates, I hear how friendly the
UI is, how great the community is. When I hear about Fedora, I hear about
On Sat, 2007-08-04 at 13:30 -0400, Jeremy Hogan wrote:
> Ubuntu is not worried about competing with Fedora. That's why we're
> worried about competing with them.
Huh?
> That is to say, they made it a primary objective to be attractive to a
> different user than Fedora is. They went after the desk
Ubuntu is not worried about competing with Fedora. That's why we're worried
about competing with them. That is to say, they made it a primary objective
to be attractive to a different user than Fedora is. They went after the
desktop, and wanted to be on OEM laptop preloads, etc. They also made it a
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 09:28 +0200, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
> However even some Ubuntu evangelists don't understand this.
As I said before, ignore the evangelical fanboys. ;)
> I like the idea of spreading the word about fedora in the daily life
> of all humans. Because I personally don't like win
This is one of the best discussions I've seen on this list in a while, and
I appreciate the sentiments. More inline, below.
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
On 8/2/07, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
It's not about who gets the bigger userbase.
It's not about
Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
> On 8/2/07, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
>> It's not about who gets the bigger userbase.
>> It's not about who gets the most users off Windows.
>> It's not about who gets the most exposure.
>> And Fedora is not getting killed by Ubuntu either.
>
> Hello,
> I tend to agree with
I agree with Chitlesh, we should not start a "distro war" neither ignoring
people and doing our stuff apart.
Our goal is not to get the biggest user base (well, that doesn't mean
getting a smaller user base too ;-) ) but to push forward the free software
thing and open contents.
We should find new
On 8/2/07, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
> It's not about who gets the bigger userbase.
> It's not about who gets the most users off Windows.
> It's not about who gets the most exposure.
> And Fedora is not getting killed by Ubuntu either.
Hello,
I tend to agree with Jeroen van Meeuwen's words. Howeve
Bryan J. Smith wrote:
Glad to see you are putting some things down on how you work. That's
always a great thing. In fact, and more selfishly, do you have anything
on RAW conversion tools (DCRAW/UFRAW), CinePaint and its HDR
plug-in? ;)
Sorry, no ;) I still have to buy myself a DSLR, it was
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 09:42 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> I am also somewhat feed-up with Ubuntu fanboys on a lot of forums and
> the web filled with brown screenshots.
Every distro has its fanboys, and many not only go overboard, but start
stating technical specifics that are just dead wrong.
Th
Markus McLaughlin wrote:
How to take on Ubuntu - Idea #1
I am also somewhat feed-up with Ubuntu fanboys on a lot of forums and
the web filled with brown screenshots.
But my may to deal with it is to show how useful is Fedora for *me* and
how proud I am in using it. I put online *a lot* of con
Markus McLaughlin wrote:
How to take on Ubuntu - Idea #1
If each of us chip in on a small AD in the New York Times, The Boston
Globe, and The Washington Post, with the Line : "What can Fedora do for
you? http://fedoraproject.org"; in blue bryant2 font lettering, more and
more regular folks an
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you don't believe me here is an FAQ from RedHat regarding their target user
for Fedora...
http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/FAQ_61_1139.shtm
Not disagreeing with the general response but the Kbase FAQ's were
written during project launch and hasn't changed while the pr
Markus McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How to take on Ubuntu - Idea #1
> ... cut ...
> It is very important to get MORE exposure so Ubuntu will
> want to compete on that level too.
As I've stated before ...
I left the commerceware, let alone hostageware, world because of
stuff like this
> From: "Markus McLaughlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> How to take on Ubuntu - Idea #1
>
> If each of us chip in on a small AD in the New York Times, The Boston Globe,
> and The Washington Post, with the Line : "What can Fedora do for you?
> http://fedoraproject.org"; in blue bryant2 font lettering, m
Markus McLaughlin wrote:
> How to take on Ubuntu - Idea #1
>
> If each of us chip in on a small AD in the New York Times, The Boston
> Globe, and The Washington Post, with the Line : "What can Fedora do for
> you? http://fedoraproject.org"; in blue bryant2 font lettering, more and
> more regular f
How to take on Ubuntu - Idea #1
If each of us chip in on a small AD in the New York Times, The Boston Globe,
and The Washington Post, with the Line : "What can Fedora do for you?
http://fedoraproject.org"; in blue bryant2 font lettering, more and more
regular folks and frustrated Windoze Users wil
27 matches
Mail list logo
