You keep saying that it's possible for sub-orgs to identify with the
Fedora
project in their logos without changing the established usage
guidelines, but
you don't explain how that is possible. I'd love to hear your
thoughts.
I am working under a deadline right now, I will try to see if I can
From: M?ir?n Duffy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
This can be handled in a way where the sub-organization's identity is
associated with the main brand, bit not integrated with the logo.
? Care to give an example or even a sketch?
Looks like it is put up or shut up for me ;)
My argument here is that
From: Rahul Sundaram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Artists are creating art.
Art is personal expression, graphics are not art. Graphics are the
prostitution of art concepts and techniques to get a specific desired
reaction for the benefit of the party paying for the graphics.
They might not have a
For those that think it is difficult to install the GIMP on a Windows
or Mac, that's because those platforms don't support yum ;)
Otherwise, I fall on the side that installing the GIMP on Windows or OS
X is is not brain-dead simple, but simple enough for most users.
Requiring the installation
From: "Patrick W. Barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
This is a common case. If the original proprietary program
(Photoshop) can't
directly save to an open format, then the contributor should use
another tool
(the GIMP) to convert the file from a proprietary format (PSD) to the
best
open format pos
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Look at pages 8 & 9 of the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute brand book. A
university is a large organization made up of many sub-organizations -
schools,
departments, research labs, etc. RPI's brand guidelines (as most
universities'
and large corporations') recognize t
From: M?ir?n Duffy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Actually, this is *not* true with respect to what Hugo is suggesting.
For example:
http://www.rpi.edu/dept/NewsComm/graphics/downloads/pdfs/toolkit.pdf
Very descriptive document.
Look at pages 8 & 9 of the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute brand
book.
From: Gain Paolo Mureddu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Speaking of print... Do you have information (besides the one at their
site) when will the SVGP spec will be ratified and implemented?
Sorry, no. I expect as with any standards ratification, the timeline is
not set in stone.
Are there any
progr
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> You can get one http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiEditing.
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I've alr
On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 13:52 -0500, Gian Paolo Mureddu wrote:
> > There are plenty of great potential art contributors out there who may
> > not necessarily be technical enough to quickly / easily figure out how
> > to install the GIMP on their art development platform of choice.
> >
> > I guess
On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 14:20 -0500, Gian Paolo Mureddu wrote:
> >> Maybe these should be part of the guidelines/instructions too over at
> >> the artwork wikis? Not that helping fellow users is a bad thing, but
> >> for others that may be in the same situation, a central reference can
> >> prove
Listen, the main point I am trying to make is that we should be happy that
people are contributing design work, no matter what format it is presented in.
From looking at them, it is obvious Matt's contributions represent a
significant investment in time and effort and we should appreciate that.
Máirín Duffy wrote:
Nicu Buculei wrote:
Two .exe to run is easy enough:
http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html
Yep, as I mentioned earlier, the GTK+2 runtime & actual GIMP installer.
I'm not saying it's rocket science, but it is complicated by involving
two separate packages *plus* al
Máirín Duffy escribió:
Gian Paolo Mureddu wrote:
- For Windows it is not one simple download, run setup, and you're
good. You also have to install the GTK+ runtime environment *first*,
which just by its name is pretty intimidating for non-technical
users. In fact, it might be intimidating enou
Nicu Buculei wrote:
Máirín Duffy wrote:
Gian Paolo Mureddu wrote:
- For Windows it is not one simple download, run setup, and you're
good. You also have to install the GTK+ runtime environment *first*,
which just by its name is pretty intimidating for non-technical
users. In fact, it might
Máirín Duffy wrote:
Gian Paolo Mureddu wrote:
- For Windows it is not one simple download, run setup, and you're
good. You also have to install the GTK+ runtime environment *first*,
which just by its name is pretty intimidating for non-technical
users. In fact, it might be intimidating enough
On Thu, 25 May 2006, [ISO-8859-1] Máirín Duffy wrote:
Would it be ok to make a wikified version of the guidelines? (so you dont have
to load the pdf?)
Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
If anyone is capable of doing that properly, you are. :)
Here it is:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLogoUsa
Gian Paolo Mureddu wrote:
- For Windows it is not one simple download, run setup, and you're
good. You also have to install the GTK+ runtime environment *first*,
which just by its name is pretty intimidating for non-technical users.
In fact, it might be intimidating enough to be off-putting.
Máirín Duffy escribió:
Well, true, the contributor could install the GIMP and convert the
artwork before submitting it this sounds simple, right? But if
they're using a platform that supports Photoshop, they are necessarily
running a platform where it may be very complicated to install the
Jesse Keating wrote:
On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 13:58 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
She didn't have to install fink or ports?
Nope. Google for 'gimp osx' and you get led to
http://www.gimp.org/macintosh/ which has
http://gimp-app.sourceforge.net/ as the first link.
Also, did she install it, or
On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 13:58 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
>
> She didn't have to install fink or ports?
Nope. Google for 'gimp osx' and you get led to
http://www.gimp.org/macintosh/ which has
http://gimp-app.sourceforge.net/ as the first link.
> Also, did she install it, or did you install it? Eve
Jesse Keating wrote:
On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 13:36 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
- For OS X it is even more complicated; you have to install fink or ports (for
dlcompa), and you have to install X11 before you can install the GIMP. This is
quite a bit of a PITA.
Not quite. There is a self conta
On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 13:36 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> - For OS X it is even more complicated; you have to install fink or ports
> (for
> dlcompa), and you have to install X11 before you can install the GIMP. This
> is
> quite a bit of a PITA.
Not quite. There is a self contained gimp.app
Patrick W. Barnes wrote:
On Sunday 28 May 2006 01:59, Máirín Duffy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
To be fair about the PSD format wiki design mockups You need to
show/hide layers in that PSD to be able to view the entire design. An open
format that Photoshop can actually handle like PNG wouldn'
On Sunday 28 May 2006 01:59, Máirín Duffy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> To be fair about the PSD format wiki design mockups You need to
> show/hide layers in that PSD to be able to view the entire design. An open
> format that Photoshop can actually handle like PNG wouldn't work, right,
> sinc
Máirín Duffy escribió:
I absolutely agree, though, that we should be using open formats
whenever possible (the 'dogfood' principle [2])!! How can we expect
open formats to flourish if *we*, of all people, don't use them?
*Exactly*... I can understand that the proprietary programs may have
fe
Hi Hugo,
Hugo Cisneiros wrote:
Looking today at the proprietary image format about a new Wiki design, I
realized that the design itself isn't following the "clear space" guideline
too. Ironic.
To be fair about the PSD format wiki design mockups You need to show/hide
layers in that PSD to
Hi Charles,
From: Hugo Cisneiros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
So I suggested (and I'm bringing this discussion here) to extend the Logo
Guidelines to create Sub-Projects Logos, like for Fedora Extras, Fedora
Documentation, Fedora (Brazil), Fedora (France), and so on. The current
guidelines does not allo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
Yes, I agree. Because the SVG was created in a way that included a
significant amount of data extraneous to the SVG specification, it
would be better for that file to be "cleaned up" for distribution.
Native program files would be a good idea too, as well as formats
From: Gain Paolo Mureddu :
I understand about this, but the problem is that printing houses don't.
They mostly use PMS and especially down here (Mexico City) it is a
problem.
As someone that has been both a buyer of printing services and a
provider of printing services, the printer does not
From: Hugo Cisneiros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They complained that the Logo isn't following the guidelines, but
didn't say
what guideline it wasn't following. Looking at the guidelines I found
out
that I was not following the "Clear Space" rule. Ok, I gave up, IMO
there was
no good way to create
Indeed the problem with CMYK in Inkscape seems to be that as the format
does not support other color schemes than RGBA. Which ends up in the
problems with CMYK and HSL, as the program will dynamicall convert
between RGBA and CMYK/HSL as you move the handlers. So the problem is a
format problem and
Rahul Sundaram escribió:
On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 17:15 -0400, Alex Maier wrote:
Yes indeed the headers were not designed to perfectly fit in the wiki
as it is now, but with the wiki redesign and migration in mind, please
see the PSD layout delivered with further design improvements to make
the
On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 20:10 -0300, Hugo Cisneiros wrote:
> On Friday 26 May 2006 17:06, Patrick W. Barnes wrote:
> > I have to be honest, I'm not impressed with the new header pieces. They
> > don't fit in with the wiki's theme, they are completely irrelevant, and
> > they waste a lot of space. O
On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 17:15 -0400, Alex Maier wrote:
> Yes indeed the headers were not designed to perfectly fit in the wiki
> as it is now, but with the wiki redesign and migration in mind, please
> see the PSD layout delivered with further design improvements to make
> the web pages look and feel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
I may be a total inexperienced user and complete amateur when it comes
to graphics design and color theory, but unless I'm terribly wrong,
that's why the Pantone® color numbers are used, isn't it?,
Without going into a long discussion on color reproduction, there are
On Friday 26 May 2006 17:06, Patrick W. Barnes wrote:
> I have to be honest, I'm not impressed with the new header pieces. They
> don't fit in with the wiki's theme, they are completely irrelevant, and
> they waste a lot of space. On lower resolutions, a visitor might have to
> scroll most of a p
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
The values reported by my version of Inkscape ( 0.43-3.fc5, PPC )
for PMS 2935
Hex : 0A57A4
RGB : R10, G87, B164
CMYK : C94, M47, Y0, K36
for PMS 541
Hex : 072B61
RGB : R6, G43, B97
CMYK : C93, M56, Y6, K62
I'd be interested if yours were different from these.
Thos
Yes indeed the headers were not designed to perfectly fit in the wiki
as it is now, but with the wiki redesign and migration in mind, please
see the PSD layout delivered with further design improvements to make
the web pages look and feel closer to the Fedora GUI.
The Wiki headers were designed t
On Thursday 25 May 2006 10:50, "Alex Maier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The new logo guidelines are out!
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo
>
> Please be sure not to violate any of the guidelines.
>
> When you are designing wiki pages, please reference these common
> design elements instead fo u
I may be a total inexperienced user and complete amateur when it comes
to graphics design and color theory, but unless I'm terribly wrong,
that's why the Pantone® color numbers are used, isn't it?,
Without going into a long discussion on color reproduction, there are
some bad things about speci
Please be sure not to violate any of the guidelines.
Repercussions are ?
One of the clauses for approval is revocability. That means, if you
violate the guidelines outrageously and refuse to comply with
reasonable
requests to get the mark in line, we tell you to take it down. Go far
enough
Greg DeKoenigsberg escribió:
You should be receiving them any minute now. :)
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
The new logo guidelines are out!
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo
Yay !
I am glad to see the guidelines are simple, short, and easy to
understand, at least from the perspective of someone used to looking
at this type of document. Some comments:
1)
The color of
Great feedback.
> > Please be sure not to violate any of the guidelines.
>
> Repercussions are ?
> I've got a big steel ruler, but it doesn't stretch that far . . .
Let the punishment fit the crime. :)
People who wish to use the logo still need to go through the approval
process -- which wil
The new logo guidelines are out!
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo
Yay !
I am glad to see the guidelines are simple, short, and easy to
understand, at least from the perspective of someone used to looking at
this type of document. Some comments:
1)
The color of the guides used to delineate
On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 11:50 -0400, Alex Maier wrote:
> The new logo guidelines are out!
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo
>
> Please be sure not to violate any of the guidelines.
>
> When you are designing wiki pages, please reference these common
> design elements instead fo uploading them ea
You should be receiving them any minute now. :)
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Alex Maier escribió:
The new logo guidelines are out!
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo
Please be sure not to violate any of the guidelines.
When you are designing wiki pages, please reference these common
design elements instead fo uploading them each time, wasting disk
space. Here is a page
Máirín,
Sure, go ahead, if you could do it, simply append it to the Logo Page
(or create a page directly referenced from /Logo ) -- that would be
most helpful!
Thanks,
a
On 5/25/06, Máirín Duffy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Alex,
Alex Maier wrote:
> The new logo guidelines are out!
> http://
On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 12:00 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> Alex Maier wrote:
> > The new logo guidelines are out!
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo
> >
> > Please be sure not to violate any of the guidelines.
>
> Would it be ok to make a wikified version of the guidelines? (so yo
On Thu, 25 May 2006, [ISO-8859-1] Máirín Duffy wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> Alex Maier wrote:
> > The new logo guidelines are out!
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo
> >
> > Please be sure not to violate any of the guidelines.
>
> Would it be ok to make a wikified version of the guidelines? (so y
Hi Alex,
Alex Maier wrote:
The new logo guidelines are out!
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo
Please be sure not to violate any of the guidelines.
Would it be ok to make a wikified version of the guidelines? (so you dont have
to load the pdf?)
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Thank you Alex. It is very good and very helpfull.
O/H Alex Maier ??:
> The new logo guidelines are out!
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo
>
> Please be sure not to violate any of the guidelines.
>
> When you are designing wiki pages, please reference these common
> design elements instea
The new logo guidelines are out!
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo
Please be sure not to violate any of the guidelines.
When you are designing wiki pages, please reference these common
design elements instead fo uploading them each time, wasting disk
space. Here is a page for that:
http://fedo
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