Rahul, Steven, Stephen: thanks for the constructive points you have
made. Much better than asking what he or she is doing... Things are
clearer to me. Again, I'm sorry if I'm incisive. I already spread the
Fedora word at my region and I'm always looking on some ways to improve
it. My intentions
Satyajit Ranjeev wrote:
Its just an idea, what about having a long term support for just the
even releases or a yearly release of an official fedora spin just
catering to servers.
A spin catering for servers is easy to do but without a longer lifecycle
does it make sense? Eve
Hi,
I'm relatively new, and I have been only using fedora for about 4
years. All these years I have used fedora, I had fun. In the beginning I
was excited a new version released every 6 months. I moved into systems
administration and realized the need of a very stable system. Recent
mont
I have read a couple of news regarding this topic. I found clear leave
RHEL favouring a free distro. I was crystal clear to me using only one
distro makes things easy. What I fail to find in the news is a
technical reason to drop all RHEL and make standar Fedora, as they
should be good at with the
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Steven Moix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The real and simple answer to this LTS problem would be for RedHat to offer
> RHEL workstation for free (yes, the killed product), without support. The
> maintenance effort has already been made for RHEL and you are not losi
On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 13:48 -0300, Luis Felipe Marzagao/Yahoo wrote:
> Anyway, my point is such idea should be at Fedora goals. Everything that
> drivers people away from Fedora should be considered, re-thought and,
> maybe, re-implemented.
Rule number one of demagoguery: you CANNOT please every
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Rahul Sundaram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote:
>
>> In 2009 my main goal at the Fedora Project in latin america will be
>> recruit people to the packaging project.
>>
>
> Very nice.
>
+1 Count me in, Man
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Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote:
In 2009 my main goal at the Fedora Project in latin america will be
recruit people to the packaging project.
Very nice.
Increasing the number of people involved in this project we will can
think in the Legacy project more efficiently.
True, increasing the n
Rahul Sundaram escreveu:
> Luis Felipe Marzagao/Yahoo wrote:
>> Yes, it´s pretty clear... Of course we can do whatever we want If
>> I want to open the "Space Monkeys Fedora" project I could.. But that´s
>> not the point here.
>
> You will have to call it something else otherwise it would be a
Luis Felipe Marzagao/Yahoo wrote:
Yes, it´s pretty clear... Of course we can do whatever we want If I
want to open the "Space Monkeys Fedora" project I could.. But that´s not
the point here.
You will have to call it something else otherwise it would be a
trademark violation ;-)
We are t
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Luis Felipe Marzagao/Yahoo
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, it´s pretty clear... Of course we can do whatever we want If I want
> to open the "Space Monkeys Fedora" project I could.. But that´s not the
> point here.
>
> We are talking about wheter or not the F
2008/10/10 Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello Guys!
>
> Read this bad news:
>
> http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;1474805050;fp;16;fpid;1
>
> This is happening frequently. I think we will have to revise some things
> within the project, particularly the creation of a Le
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:52:11 -0300, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yes, but we can BE BETTER, only adding more 1 year of updates to the
> packages!! With this improvement on the project the number of
> users/collaborators will increase!!
>
> It's good for fedora, for re
On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 11:57 -0300, Luis Felipe Marzagao/Yahoo wrote:
> But sometimes it's *really* disappointing to see how people in Fedora
> always seem to resit changes... So what there's RHEL and CentOS? So what
> the Fedora purpose is to be a "lab"?!
>
> Why can´t it be changed?
What are *
Yes, it´s pretty clear... Of course we can do whatever we want If I
want to open the "Space Monkeys Fedora" project I could.. But that´s not
the point here.
We are talking about wheter or not the Fedora board is willing to
sponsor this idea.
Since we saw the creation of CentOS, I assume
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andrea Modesto Rossi escreveu:
>> I don't understand the problem...for LTS there is RHEL ;-)
>>
>> I Like this slogan:
>> <<"Fedora is the best of today, RHEL is the best of the following seven
>> years">>.
>>
Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) escreveu:
>> Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) escreveu:
>>> Or maybe you didn't really understand the goal of the Fedora Project.
>>>
>>> Once again, Fedora is not about conquering the desktop / server market.
>>> It's about developping / building / creating / innovating /
>>> re
Jonathan Roberts escreveu:
>> I know what is Fedora and I understand the GOAL of the project, i'm here
>> since 2005.
>
> Try to think about this in terms of free software, not distro v distro.
>
> For me, I use and contribute to Fedora because I care about freedom,
> want to help drive freedom f
> Reopen the Legacy project would be great!
>
> But, we need to use the same infra and repositories of Fedora Project.
That's the problem IMHO.
> If the Legacy project will be a official project i can work HARD to
> recruit people to work in LATAM.
>
> So, that's is the question. Can we maintain
> I know what is Fedora and I understand the GOAL of the project, i'm here
> since 2005.
Try to think about this in terms of free software, not distro v distro.
For me, I use and contribute to Fedora because I care about freedom,
want to help drive freedom forward and believe Fedora is the best
p
>
> Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) escreveu:
>> Or maybe you didn't really understand the goal of the Fedora Project.
>>
>> Once again, Fedora is not about conquering the desktop / server market.
>> It's about developping / building / creating / innovating /
>> revolutionning
>> the future of the deskto
Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) escreveu:
>> Andrea Modesto Rossi escreveu:
>>> I don't understand the problem...for LTS there is RHEL ;-)
>>>
>>> I Like this slogan:
>>> <<"Fedora is the best of today, RHEL is the best of the following seven
>>> years">>.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>> Ok. Put this messag
Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) escreveu:
Or maybe you didn't really understand the goal of the Fedora Project.
Once again, Fedora is not about conquering the desktop / server market.
It's about developping / building / creating / innovating / revolutionning
the future of the desktop / server FOSS pr
+1
Luis Felipe Marzagao/Yahoo escreveu:
> I think Fedora is great distro, which is why I´m involved with it (of
> course...).
>
> But sometimes it's *really* disappointing to see how people in Fedora
> always seem to resit changes... So what there's RHEL and CentOS? So what
> the Fedora purpose i
> SERPRO (Brazilian Government IT Department) has more than 9.000 desktops
> running Fedora (in all brazilian states) and now is migrating to Ubuntu,
> because is impossible to migrate every year to other Fedora Release.
> With the short time support is impossible to work and use Fedora.
If I have
> Andrea Modesto Rossi escreveu:
>> I don't understand the problem...for LTS there is RHEL ;-)
>>
>> I Like this slogan:
>> <<"Fedora is the best of today, RHEL is the best of the following seven
>> years">>.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>
> Ok. Put this message on the Fedora Official website.
>
> For me
I think Fedora is great distro, which is why I´m involved with it (of
course...).
But sometimes it's *really* disappointing to see how people in Fedora
always seem to resit changes... So what there's RHEL and CentOS? So what
the Fedora purpose is to be a "lab"?!
Why can´t it be changed?
If
Andrea Modesto Rossi escreveu:
> I don't understand the problem...for LTS there is RHEL ;-)
>
> I Like this slogan:
> <<"Fedora is the best of today, RHEL is the best of the following seven
> years">>.
>
> Best Regards,
>
Ok. Put this message on the Fedora Official website.
For me, it's a bad
On Ven, 10 Ottobre 2008 4:27 pm, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote:
> because is impossible to migrate every year to other Fedora Release.
> With the short time support is impossible to work and use Fedora.
I don't understand the problem...for LTS there is RHEL ;-)
I Like this slogan:
<<"Fedora i
> Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) escreveu:
>>> Hello Guys!
>>> Read this bad news:
>>> http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;1474805050;fp;16;fpid;1 This
is happening frequently. I think we will have to revise some things
>>> within the project, particularly the creation of a Legacy project or a
Fed
Kam escreveu:
> +1
>
> --
> Kam
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>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: Steven Moix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subj: Re: Wikipidia - Goodbye Red Hat and Fedora
> Date: Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:27 am
>
that there are alternatives - Fedora being one of them.
My .02
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From: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subj: Re: Wikipidia - Goodbye Red Hat and Fedora
Date: Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:52 am
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On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 10:51 -0300, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote:
> So, we are working here to recommend Red Hat and CENTOS ??
>
> That's the question, Ubuntu has a LTS, Fedora don't! That's the main
> problem of the Fedora Project.
>
> Today, we have many users! With this idea to recommend C
+1
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From: Steven Moix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subj: Re: Wikipidia - Goodbye Red Hat and Fedora
Date: Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:27 am
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To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base
Ola Rodrigo
El vie, 10-10-2008 a las 10:51 -0300, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
escribió:
> Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) escreveu:
> >> Hello Guys!
> >>
> >> Read this bad news:
> >>
> >> http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;1474805050;fp;16;fpid;1
> >>
> >> This is happening frequently. I
Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) escreveu:
>> Hello Guys!
>>
>> Read this bad news:
>>
>> http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;1474805050;fp;16;fpid;1
>>
>> This is happening frequently. I think we will have to revise some things
>> within the project, particularly the creation of a Legacy project or
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008, Steven Moix wrote:
On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 09:42 -0300, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote:
Hello Guys!
Read this bad news:
http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;1474805050;fp;16;fpid;1
This is happening frequently. I think we will have to revise some things
within the
On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 09:42 -0300, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote:
> Hello Guys!
>
> Read this bad news:
>
> http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;1474805050;fp;16;fpid;1
>
> This is happening frequently. I think we will have to revise some things
> within the project, particularly the cre
> Hello Guys!
>
> Read this bad news:
>
> http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;1474805050;fp;16;fpid;1
>
> This is happening frequently. I think we will have to revise some things
> within the project, particularly the creation of a Legacy project or a
> Fedora LTS.
There is a Fedora LTS. It'
Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote:
Hello Guys!
Read this bad news:
http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;1474805050;fp;16;fpid;1
This is happening frequently. I think we will have to revise some things
within the project, particularly the creation of a Legacy project or a
Fedora LTS.
The b
Hello Guys!
Read this bad news:
http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;1474805050;fp;16;fpid;1
This is happening frequently. I think we will have to revise some things
within the project, particularly the creation of a Legacy project or a
Fedora LTS.
The brazilian government, one of the bigg
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