Re: a call to action [Fwd: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise]

2007-04-19 Thread Bryan J. Smith
On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 08:00 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > At any rate, we need people to implement it. Understand exactly where you are coming from. ;) > Then there are two other related projects which might interest you. > https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/LHCP/ > https://hosted.fedora

Re: a call to action [Fwd: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise]

2007-04-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Bryan J. Smith wrote: On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 01:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I did suggest something very similar at https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2007-March/msg00139.html Apparently there isn't much traction to this idea. I read through the thread and I didn't get t

Re: a call to action [Fwd: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise]

2007-04-18 Thread Bryan J. Smith
On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 01:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > I did suggest something very similar at > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2007-March/msg00139.html > Apparently there isn't much traction to this idea. I read through the thread and I didn't get that idea at all. In

Re: a call to action [Fwd: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise]

2007-04-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Robert M. Albrecht wrote: Hi, Agreed. It's a nice way of getting legal support for these things should the user opt for them, while still keeping the Fedora as-is Free. Perhaps this could be expanded in some way. If Fedora finds any unsupported hardware it could display a dialog informing th

Re: a call to action [Fwd: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise]

2007-04-16 Thread Karsten Wade
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 22:53 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Jonathan Roberts wrote: > > > > > Looks cool :D I was wondering about putting a link directly on the > > home page perhaps?! Or is that outside of the plans for the homepage? > > I think so. I can see pros and cons. If you want to purs

Re: a call to action [Fwd: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise]

2007-04-15 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bryan J. Smith wrote: [snipping a very large and very well written bit] > Fedora advocates don't have to "bark back" to make a point. They just > need to repeat, even like a broken record, "we product a 100% > redistributable distribution with 0% in

Re: a call to action [Fwd: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise]

2007-04-15 Thread Bryan J. Smith
On Sun, 2007-04-15 at 22:30 +0200, Robert M. Albrecht wrote: > Perhaps this could be expanded in some way. > If Fedora finds any unsupported hardware it could display a dialog > informing the user: > - device class and vendor > - link to vendors homepage > - vendors contact to click (thus launching

Re: a call to action [Fwd: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise]

2007-04-15 Thread Bryan J. Smith
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 09:43 +0530, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > I would tend to believe that is more the result of a tradeoff between > convenience and sticking to a distribution's moral and/or ethical > standpoint. For example, till the time Intel Graphics cards became the > flavor of the mont

Re: a call to action [Fwd: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise]

2007-04-15 Thread Bryan J. Smith
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 10:44 +0800, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > I think we spread the word enough its just people choose not to listen. > Without actually placing it on their desktop and making a user click 'I > understand this contains no propietary software' I don't know what else > needs to be do

Re: a call to action [Fwd: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise]

2007-04-15 Thread Robert M. Albrecht
Hi, > Agreed. It's a nice way of getting legal support for these things should the > user opt for them, while still keeping the Fedora as-is Free. Perhaps this could be expanded in some way. If Fedora finds any unsupported hardware it could display a dialog informing the user: - device class an

Re: a call to action [Fwd: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise]

2007-04-12 Thread Peter Gordon
Karsten Wade wrote: > Codec Buddy is a great step/improvement here. I like the idea of > confronting the situation head-on, proactively. Pages on the Wiki and > pointing at them after someone complains is reactive. Agreed. It's a nice way of getting legal support for these things should the user

Re: a call to action [Fwd: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise]

2007-04-12 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Jonathan Roberts wrote: Looks cool :D I was wondering about putting a link directly on the home page perhaps?! Or is that outside of the plans for the homepage? I think so. Rahul -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing

Re: a call to action [Fwd: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise]

2007-04-12 Thread Jonathan Roberts
On 12/04/07, Rahul Sundaram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jonathan Roberts wrote: >> Nope. What can we do for people? What can we offer them that is >> useful? >> >> * More original content in Ogg format > > There's already *loads* of original content in Ogg, maybe Fedora could > point them in the

Re: a call to action [Fwd: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise]

2007-04-12 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Jonathan Roberts wrote: Nope. What can we do for people? What can we offer them that is useful? * More original content in Ogg format There's already *loads* of original content in Ogg, maybe Fedora could point them in the direction of some of it? Magnatune, Jamendo etc...I thought the new d

Re: a call to action [Fwd: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise]

2007-04-12 Thread Herman Meester
2007/4/12, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Karsten Wade wrote: > In the article referenced below there is an (implied) call to action for > Fedora: > > "One might well wonder why certain Fedora users feel the need to repeat > these comp

Re: a call to action [Fwd: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise]

2007-04-12 Thread Jonathan Roberts
Nope. What can we do for people? What can we offer them that is useful? * More original content in Ogg format There's already *loads* of original content in Ogg, maybe Fedora could point them in the direction of some of it? Magnatune, Jamendo etc...I thought the new default home page in FC6 w

Re: a call to action [Fwd: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise]

2007-04-12 Thread Karsten Wade
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 10:44 +0800, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > I think we spread the word enough its just people choose not to listen. > Without actually placing it on their desktop and making a user click 'I > understand this contains no propietary software' I don't know what else > needs to be d

Re: a call to action [Fwd: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise]

2007-04-11 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Karsten Wade wrote: > In the article referenced below there is an (implied) call to action for > Fedora: > > "One might well wonder why certain Fedora users feel the need to repeat > these complaints so often. Perhaps the project is not doing an adequ

Re: a call to action [Fwd: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise]

2007-04-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 10:44:13AM +0800, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > I think we spread the word enough its just people choose not to listen. > Without actually placing it on their desktop and making a user click 'I > understand this contains no propietary software' I don't know what else > needs t

Re: a call to action [Fwd: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise]

2007-04-11 Thread Marc Wiriadisastra
On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 19:23 -0700, Karsten Wade wrote: > In the article referenced below there is an (implied) call to action for > Fedora: > > "One might well wonder why certain Fedora users feel the need to repeat > these complaints so often. Perhaps the project is not doing an adequate > job of

a call to action [Fwd: LWN headline: Blame Fedora = High Praise]

2007-04-11 Thread Karsten Wade
In the article referenced below there is an (implied) call to action for Fedora: "One might well wonder why certain Fedora users feel the need to repeat these complaints so often. Perhaps the project is not doing an adequate job of communicating what it is trying to do. One assumes that, if people