Re: thinking about the Fedora brand (WARNING: this is for you)

2007-08-12 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le vendredi 03 août 2007 à 20:26 +0530, Rahul Sundaram a écrit : > "Free world" is a bit too vague too and a bit amusing with the > patents on software situation. Free world has been so much abused by USSA politicians it has a definite bad connotation in many countries. I'd avoid it. -- Nicola

Re: thinking about the Fedora brand (WARNING: this is for you)

2007-08-03 Thread Jeremy Hogan
> > In a commercial context, this is the definition of BRANDING: > > The main purpose of branding is to get > MORE people to buy MORE stuff > for MORE years at a HIGHER price. IIRC, the original quote was from a Coca-Cola CEO about the purpose of a BUSINESS, not BRAND per se: "To get more p

Re: thinking about the Fedora brand (WARNING: this is for you)

2007-08-03 Thread Bryan J. Smith
Greg Dekoenigsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, you're wrong, dammit! I'm always wrong. ;) > Okay, point taken. How about something a little more socialist > realism? Something like, "the struggle for software freedom"? > Because Fedora is nothing if not stuggle. :) How about ...

Re: thinking about the Fedora brand (WARNING: this is for you)

2007-08-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Bill Nottingham wrote: Rahul Sundaram ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Frontpage of Fedora already has this: "The Fedora Project is out front for you, leading the advancement of free, open software and content." Isn't the guy who leads the charge waving the flag the one that gets shot first? It s

Re: thinking about the Fedora brand (WARNING: this is for you)

2007-08-03 Thread Paul Stauffer
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 12:27:44PM -0400, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > Okay, point taken. How about something a little more socialist realism? > Something like, "the struggle for software freedom"? Because Fedora is > nothing if not stuggle. :) I don't think associating Fedora with the word "s

Re: thinking about the Fedora brand (WARNING: this is for you)

2007-08-03 Thread Greg Dekoenigsberg
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Bryan J. Smith wrote: Greg Dekoenigsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about "Fedora: Leading the Fight For Software Freedom"? I like having "Fight" in there. Stirs up the passions. :) Nah, I don't really care for anything related to "conflict" myself. Well, you're wr

Re: thinking about the Fedora brand (WARNING: this is for you)

2007-08-03 Thread Bryan J. Smith
Greg Dekoenigsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How about "Fedora: Leading the Fight For Software Freedom"? > I like having "Fight" in there. Stirs up the passions. :) Nah, I don't really care for anything related to "conflict" myself. In fact, I rather dislike those who constantly "pick fights

Re: thinking about the Fedora brand (WARNING: this is for you)

2007-08-03 Thread Bryan J. Smith
Gian Paolo Mureddu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Fedora: Leading Software Freedom" > The other, "Leading Software Libre" is not bad either, but the > first, I think, has an implicit empowerment of "freedom", while > the later only describes the situation of the Software (as "libre" > or "free" ["l

Re: thinking about the Fedora brand (WARNING: this is for you)

2007-08-03 Thread Bill Nottingham
Rahul Sundaram ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: > Frontpage of Fedora already has this: > > "The Fedora Project is out front for you, leading the advancement of free, > open software and content." Isn't the guy who leads the charge waving the flag the one that gets shot first? Bill -- Fedora-marketi

Re: thinking about the Fedora brand (WARNING: this is for you)

2007-08-03 Thread Karlie Robinson
We're already saying infinite freedom with the logo, so what about playing up the cutting edge aspect of Fedora? It doesn't even have to say "Leadership." Fedora. Advancing Computing... Or Linux, Or something. (Don't you hate it when you have a great idea, take a phone call, and then you're i

Re: thinking about the Fedora brand (WARNING: this is for you)

2007-08-03 Thread Greg Dekoenigsberg
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Gian Paolo Mureddu wrote: Rahul Sundaram escribió: Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: Fedora. Leading by example. Fedora. Leaders of the Free World. Can we do it in five words? :) Leading by example doesn't say what kind of example we are trying to set. "Free world" is a

Re: thinking about the Fedora brand (WARNING: this is for you)

2007-08-03 Thread Gian Paolo Mureddu
Rahul Sundaram escribió: Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: Fedora. Leading by example. Fedora. Leaders of the Free World. Can we do it in five words? :) Leading by example doesn't say what kind of example we are trying to set. "Free world" is a bit too vague too and a bit amusing with the p

Re: thinking about the Fedora brand (WARNING: this is for you)

2007-08-03 Thread Bryan J. Smith
Greg Dekoenigsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Something pithy. Bold, but true and defensible. > Fedora. Leading by example. Almost perfect! How about ... "Fedora: Leading Innovation by Example" And possibly the sub-slogan ... "We're Not Just a Distro" -- Bryan J. Smith Professio

Re: thinking about the Fedora brand (WARNING: this is for you)

2007-08-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: Fedora. Leading by example. Fedora. Leaders of the Free World. Can we do it in five words? :) Leading by example doesn't say what kind of example we are trying to set. "Free world" is a bit too vague too and a bit amusing with the patents on software situati

Re: thinking about the Fedora brand (WARNING: this is for you)

2007-08-03 Thread Greg Dekoenigsberg
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Where is the appropriate place to put this on the website? wiki/Overview is completely unfocused. Frontpage of Fedora already has this: "The Fedora Project is out front for you, leading the advancement of free, open software and content." Maybe a

Re: thinking about the Fedora brand (WARNING: this is for you)

2007-08-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Mike McGrath wrote: Where is the appropriate place to put this on the website? wiki/Overview is completely unfocused. Frontpage of Fedora already has this: "The Fedora Project is out front for you, leading the advancement of free, open software and content." Maybe a short form of this sho

Re: thinking about the Fedora brand (WARNING: this is for you)

2007-08-03 Thread Nicu Buculei
Mike McGrath wrote: Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, John Babich wrote: The purpose of the Fedora Project is to produce and sustain a leading-edge linux distribution with excellent developer and user community support. Very good. I'd make one change: s/a leading edge/THE leadi

Re: thinking about the Fedora brand (WARNING: this is for you)

2007-08-03 Thread Mike McGrath
Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, John Babich wrote: CONCLUSION The purpose of the Fedora Project is to produce and sustain a leading-edge linux distribution with excellent developer and user community support. Very good. I'd make one change: s/a leading edge/THE leading edge

Re: thinking about the Fedora brand (WARNING: this is for you)

2007-08-03 Thread Greg Dekoenigsberg
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, John Babich wrote: CONCLUSION The purpose of the Fedora Project is to produce and sustain a leading-edge linux distribution with excellent developer and user community support. Very good. I'd make one change: s/a leading edge/THE leading edge Because our purpose is to b

Re: thinking about the Fedora brand (WARNING: this is for you)

2007-08-03 Thread John Babich
Karsten: First of all, sorry if I'm posting to the wrong list. As part of our preparation for GITEX, I have had to think about two things recently: 1. Fedora's branding, and 2. Fedora's identity I viewed the excellent presentation (yes, I pressed F5). Here are some conclusions I drew from the sl