Re: Julie has crossed over the Rainbow Bridge

2007-12-12 Thread catatonya
Wendy, I'm so sorry for your loss. tonya wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello everyone, It is with sadness I tell you that Julie's doctor and I helped Julie cross over the Rainbow Bridge yesterday afternoon. She was purring and happy when it happened and she passed p

Re: Kelly Saveika hearing/Barn home placements

2007-12-12 Thread Susan Hoffman
And if the cats have already been transferred to barn homes perhaps we can retrieve them and work on indoor placement with an eye towards socialization for adoption. glenda Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bless your heart...I sure will... --- Susan Hoffman wrote: > Shelters put a lot of cat

Re: Fw: Kelly Saveika hearing..........

2007-12-12 Thread Kelley Saveika
On Dec 12, 2007 12:04 PM, Unusually Unique <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This kind of garbage is exactly the reason I unsubscribed from this > list. Which I might add, the only messages I seem to be getting is this > crap. I just unsubscribed for the SECOND time! > > > > There are lots of fine p

Re: Kelly Saveika hearing/Barn home placements

2007-12-12 Thread glenda Goodman
Bless your heart...I sure will... --- Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shelters put a lot of cats down who would make > wonderful pets if given the opportunity. Cats who > are fractious or undersocialized need a good foster > home where someone will take the time to work with > them. I

Re: Kelly Saveika hearing/Barn home placements

2007-12-12 Thread Susan Hoffman
Shelters put a lot of cats down who would make wonderful pets if given the opportunity. Cats who are fractious or undersocialized need a good foster home where someone will take the time to work with them. It is premature to send them to a barn home, especially when they have been so recently

Re: Kelly Saveika hearing/Barn home placements

2007-12-12 Thread glenda Goodman
Hi Susan, I do understand about believing some cats deserve to be socialized...I do know a number of the cats Shelia took in were FeLV cats and I think some so unsocial that the city shelter would have put them down.That is why Susan stepped in... These must have been the ones that were placed in

Re: Kelly Saveika hearing... I agree, this OT topic should be closed !!

2007-12-12 Thread glenda Goodman
Shelia Smith is very involved with FeLV+ cats. She and her husband, Dr. Smith, an Austin,Texas Veterinarian, have adopted many, I'd guess, dozens of FeLV+ cats that would have otherwise been destroyed.. They spend thousands $$ of their own money supporting these cats...I can only imagine, they dev

Kelly Saveika hearing/Barn home placements

2007-12-12 Thread Susan Hoffman
One last word on this, for the sake of the cats intended for barn home placements. To whomever is on this list and in contact with the people who actually have these cats, please have them contact me off-list. I know a lot of people who work with feral and undersocialized cats and surely we sh

Re: Kelly Saveika hearing... I agree, this OT topic should be closed !!

2007-12-12 Thread Gloria Lane
I agree. Glenda, this is so inappropriate for this list. This is an inflammatory issue that does *not* belong on our FELVtalk list, I think everyone else understands this. This is a Feline Leukemia list, and that's a very clear boundary. I think FELVtalk has always been lenient about OT

Re: the good news...

2007-12-12 Thread Susan Hoffman
Yes, I would like to know why these particular cats were believed suitable for a barn home placement. I've been working with feral and semi-tame cats for years and have yet to send even one to an outdoor barn home placement (though I have sure been tempted a few times). The vast majority of ki

Re: Fw: Kelly Saveika hearing..........

2007-12-12 Thread Unusually Unique
This kind of garbage is exactly the reason I unsubscribed from this list. Which I might add, the only messages I seem to be getting is this crap. I just unsubscribed for the SECOND time! - Original Message From: Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent

Re: the good news...

2007-12-12 Thread Kelley Saveika
Cats in barn cat placements are not "safe, loved, and accounted for." They are outside when they have no defenses and no understanding of how to be safe outside, like a feral cat does. The tragedy was that they were ripped from their happy home. That is a terrible thing. If people want to post

the good news...

2007-12-12 Thread glenda Goodman
Hi guys, I do not come over here very often, but because, I do miss a few, very special people here and still have my FeLV+ little girl, I need to receive all the information possible about this awful disease...I also, by the way, have six negative kitties, so am very grateful for all and any help

Re: Fw: Kelly Saveika hearing..........

2007-12-12 Thread Susan Hoffman
The way to cool it down is to tell people the topic is closed, place anyone who doesn't understand "closed" on moderated status, and delete posts on the topic. Unfortunately this sort of nastiness is why groups need moderators. Sometimes things get out of hand and someone has to step in and ta

Re: Fw: Kelly Saveika hearing..........

2007-12-12 Thread Lance
James wouldn't be the first moderator to do that. Michael has tried to cool it down on one of the Yahoo! lists, but apparently a few people have an overwhelming compulsion to keep this going. I'd say that's a pretty sad situation as well, considering that they obviously have lots of energy, and th

Re: Fw: Kelly Saveika hearing..........

2007-12-12 Thread Susan Hoffman
And why is it on this list? I would ask the moderator to declare a moratorium on this topic. It has nothing to do with FeLV and has degenerated into a flaming war. MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: glenda, dear, exactly who and what gives you permission to post things that are su

Re: Fw: Kelly Saveika hearing..........

2007-12-12 Thread MaryChristine
glenda, dear, exactly who and what gives you permission to post things that are supposedly private communications to me? On Dec 12, 2007 11:47 AM, glenda Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- > > > > From: Sheila Smith > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Sunday, De

Re: Fw: Kelly Saveika hearing..........

2007-12-12 Thread Kelley Saveika
Does this have anything to do with FELV? I think not. FYI, there were NO starving NOR dehydrated cats at my house. The $300 food bill per month speaks to that. I don't know what may have happened to them while in TLAC's care, but while in my care they were well fed and had access to plenty of w

Fwd: Fw: Kelly Saveika hearing..........

2007-12-12 Thread glenda Goodman
--- > > From: Sheila Smith > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 7:28 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: Fwd: Kelly Saveika hearing.. > > I just saw this post. Oh well, I am going to let > it slide b/c I have bigger fish to fr