Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:21:43 -0700 (PDT) From: catatonya Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] crf-Belinda To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
thank you Sharyl. Are you all saying that instead of kd food I just need one low in phosphorous? What is considered low? thanks, t Sharyl wrote: That makes more sense. Here is a link on giving Sub Q fluids that has really helped me. Sophia Gets Her Subcutaneous (Sub Q) Fluids http://www.tinyurl.com/63max Good luck Sharyl --- On Tue, 7/15/08, catatonya wrote: From: catatonya Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] crf-Belinda To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 2:58 PM Found Bun. It is 40. Sharyl wrote: Tonya, is that a typo for Bob's BUN value? Just very low for a CRF kitty with a Crea of 2.6. You will want to read and bookmark Tanya's web site. www.felineCRF.org SubQ fluids are usually given to maintain adequate hydration. Weekly fluids probably don't help much on that score. Usually kitties are no longer able to maintain adequate hydration when the Crea value gets to the high 3's but each kitty is different and requires a unique treatment plan. All of Bob's other values look good. The best food for a CRF kitty is the lowest phosphorus food he'll eat. Sharyl Sissy Rocket and Daisy's babies --- On Tue, 7/15/08, catatonya wrote: From: catatonya Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] crf-Belinda To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 10:15 AM Hey Belinda, This has been lost in cyberspace several times. I'm hoping it comes through with the new server. Bob's numbers: creatnine 2.5 bun 16 phosphorus 4.5 potassium 4.1 HCT 37.9 Other numbers that were noted as high were: urea nitrogen 40 cholesterol 269 amylase 1440 we have put him on the new science diet kd canned (it has a better consistency and it is the only one out of about 4 we've tried that he will eat.) 100 mL of fluid per week. and yes, he has high blood pressure and we have him on norvasc 2.5 mg daily plus the vet has recommended cosequin for joints and said it actually helps the kidneys (i can't read the dosage it's written so small on the capsules and i can't find the box. i have a hard time getting them down him though so he doesn't take them with much regularity.) how does all of this sound to you. I need to put lysine in the wet food for sneaker's herpes. the vet said this would not hurt bob's kidneys. what do you think about that? tonya Belinda Sauro wrote: What are his numbers, specifically his Creatinine, BUN, Phosphorus, Potassium, and his HCT, these are the important ones that tell you how well or not well he is doing? Get them from your vet, they can fax or give you a copy of his last blood work results, you paid for them they are yours. Tell me what they are and I can tell you what my vet would be doing if Fred had those numbers. Also has his blood pressure been checked, CRF cats are notorious for getting high blood pressure, this can be very dangerous and cause blindness if not caught and treated. Several cats on the CRF list have gone blind been put on amlodipine and regained some if not all of their sight. The retinas detach when the blood pressure gets too high, too high can vary for each individual cat but you really don't want the blood pressure higher than 170 or 180 at the vets. Fred's has been as high as 200 to 240 when he was having the episode that I took him in for right away, thankfully his retinas never detached but I got him in right away when his legs were twitching and he kind of looked spacey and fell over. Get the numbers and send them ... does he still get fluids? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... 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Are you all saying that instead of kd food I just need one low in phosphorous? What is considered low? thanks, t Sharyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That makes more sense. Here is a link on giving Sub Q fluids that has really helped me. Sophia Gets Her Subcutaneous (Sub Q) Fluids href="http://www.tinyurl.com/63max";>http://www.tinyurl.com/63max Good luck Sharyl --- On Tue, 7/15/08, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] crf-Belinda To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 2:58 PM Found Bun. It is 40. Sharyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tonya, is that a typo for Bob's BUN value? Just very low for a CRF kitty with a Crea of 2.6. You will want to read and bookmark Tanya's web site. href="http://www.felinecrf.org/"; target=_blank rel=nofollow>www.felineCRF.org SubQ fluids are usually given to maintain adequate hydration. Weekly fluids probably don't help much on that score. Usually kitties are no longer able to maintain adequate hydration when the Crea value gets to the high 3's but each kitty is different and requires a unique treatment plan. All of Bob's other values look good. The best food for a CRF kitty is the lowest phosphorus food he'll eat. Sharyl Sissy Rocket and Daisy's babies --- On Tue, 7/15/08, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] crf-Belinda To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 10:15 AM Hey Belinda, This has been lost in cyberspace several times. I'm hoping it comes through with the new server. Bob's numbers: creatnine 2.5 bun 16 phosphorus 4.5 potassium 4.1 HCT 37.9 Other numbers that were noted as high were: urea nitrogen 40 cholesterol 269 amylase 1440 we have put him on the new science diet kd canned (it has a better consistency and it is the only one out of about 4 we've tried that he will eat.) 100 mL of fluid per week. and yes, he has high blood pressure and we have him on norvasc 2.5 mg daily plus the vet has recommended cosequin for joints and said it actually helps the kidneys (i can't read the dosage it's written so small on the capsules and i can't find the box. i have a hard time getting them down him though so he doesn't take them with much regularity.) how does all of this sound to you. I need to put lysine in the wet food for sneaker's herpes. the vet said this would not hurt bob's kidneys. what do you think about that? tonya Belinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What are his numbers, specifically his Creatinine, BUN, Phosphorus, Potassium, and his HCT, these are the important ones that tell you how well or not well he is doing? Get them from your vet, they can fax or give you a copy of his last blood work results, you paid for them they are yours. Tell me what they are and I can tell you what my vet would be doing if Fred had those numbers. Also has his blood pressure been checked, CRF cats are notorious for getting high blood pressure, this can be very dangerous and cause blindness if not caught and treated. Several cats on the CRF list have gone blind been put on amlodipine and regained some if not all of their sight. The retinas detach when the blood pressure gets too high, too high can vary for each individual cat but you really don't want the blood pressure higher than 170 or 180 at the vets. Fred's has been as high as 200 to 240 when he was having the episode that I took him in for right away, thankfully his retinas never detached but I got him in right away when his legs were twitching and he kind of looked spacey and fell over. Get the numbers and send them ... does he still get fluids? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... 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