Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-12-06 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 09:25:43AM +0100, Anton Khirnov wrote: > Quoting Niklas Haas (2023-12-05 12:01:48) > > On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 11:07:33 +0100 Anton Khirnov wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > Both elections have now concluded. > > > > > > We have 36 votes for the CC election (70% turnout) and 38

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-12-06 Thread Anton Khirnov
Quoting Niklas Haas (2023-12-05 12:01:48) > On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 11:07:33 +0100 Anton Khirnov wrote: > > Hi all, > > Both elections have now concluded. > > > > We have 36 votes for the CC election (70% turnout) and 38 votes for TC > > (75% turnout); raw votes in CSV format are attached. > > > >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-12-05 Thread Rémi Denis-Courmont
Le 5 décembre 2023 15:28:54 GMT+02:00, James Almer a écrit : >On 12/5/2023 7:07 AM, Anton Khirnov wrote: >> Hi all, >> Both elections have now concluded. >> >> We have 36 votes for the CC election (70% turnout) and 38 votes for TC >> (75% turnout); raw votes in CSV format are attached. >> >>

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-12-05 Thread James Almer
On 12/5/2023 7:07 AM, Anton Khirnov wrote: Hi all, Both elections have now concluded. We have 36 votes for the CC election (70% turnout) and 38 votes for TC (75% turnout); raw votes in CSV format are attached. The CC members now are: * James Almer * Jean-Baptiste Kempf * Anton Khirnov * Ronald

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-12-05 Thread Niklas Haas
On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 11:07:33 +0100 Anton Khirnov wrote: > Hi all, > Both elections have now concluded. > > We have 36 votes for the CC election (70% turnout) and 38 votes for TC > (75% turnout); raw votes in CSV format are attached. > > The CC members now are: > * James Almer > * Jean-Baptiste

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-12-05 Thread Steven Liu
Anton Khirnov 于2023年12月5日周二 18:07写道: > > Hi all, > Both elections have now concluded. > > We have 36 votes for the CC election (70% turnout) and 38 votes for TC > (75% turnout); raw votes in CSV format are attached. > > The CC members now are: > * James Almer > * Jean-Baptiste Kempf > * Anton

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-12-05 Thread Anton Khirnov
Hi all, Both elections have now concluded. We have 36 votes for the CC election (70% turnout) and 38 votes for TC (75% turnout); raw votes in CSV format are attached. The CC members now are: * James Almer * Jean-Baptiste Kempf * Anton Khirnov * Ronald Bultje * Michael Niedermayer For TC, it

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-12-03 Thread Anton Khirnov
As nobody seems to be arguing otherwise, we'll proceed with the votes normally. I intend to close them on Tuesday morning - please vote ASAP if you have not done so yet. Cheers, -- Anton Khirnov ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-12-02 Thread Niklas Haas
On Sat, 02 Dec 2023 11:24:39 +0100 Anton Khirnov wrote: > So, given that we've had no further reports about voting mistakes, I'm > leaning towards NOT redoing the vote. If anyone has strong opinions one > way or another, feel welcome to comment. Either way we should make a > decision before the

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-12-02 Thread Anton Khirnov
So, given that we've had no further reports about voting mistakes, I'm leaning towards NOT redoing the vote. If anyone has strong opinions one way or another, feel welcome to comment. Either way we should make a decision before the vote is closed on Tuesday. -- Anton Khirnov

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-30 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 12:01:25AM +, Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel wrote: > > > > On Nov 29, 2023, at 3:14 PM, Michael Niedermayer > > wrote: > > > > If you give Jerry a weight of 10 and give Tom a weight of 9, that means > > you prefer Jerry over Tom because 10 > 9 > > If you give

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-30 Thread Alexander Strasser
On 2023-11-30 00:14 +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 02:23:13PM +0100, Anton Khirnov wrote: > > For the record, I've edited the vote description to make it more clear. > > It now looks like this: > > > > Five people from the list below will become the members of the

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-30 Thread Anton Khirnov
Quoting Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel (2023-11-29 13:22:11) > > > On 28.11.23 21:30, Derek Buitenhuis wrote: > > On 11/28/2023 3:50 PM, Anton Khirnov wrote: > >> Calling things generically bad is the opposite of helpful. > > I cannot offer help on making a paragraph that I don't fully > >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-30 Thread Anton Khirnov
Quoting Derek Buitenhuis (2023-11-28 21:30:12) > On 11/28/2023 3:50 PM, Anton Khirnov wrote: > > Calling things generically bad is the opposite of helpful. > > I cannot offer help on making a paragraph that I don't fully > understand become more comprehensible, as that would require > I

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-29 Thread Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
> On Nov 29, 2023, at 5:42 PM, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > > Does ranked voting allow expressing equal weight to multiple candidates? > For example, I prefer Jerry and Tom equally, but I prefer either one over > Spike. In theory that could depend on the implementation of ranked voting, it could

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-29 Thread Ronald S. Bultje
Hi, On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 7:01 PM Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel < ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote: > > On Nov 29, 2023, at 3:14 PM, Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > > > If you give Jerry a weight of 10 and give Tom a weight of 9, that means > > you prefer Jerry over Tom because 10 > 9 > >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-29 Thread Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
> On Nov 29, 2023, at 3:14 PM, Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > If you give Jerry a weight of 10 and give Tom a weight of 9, that means > you prefer Jerry over Tom because 10 > 9 > If you give Spike a weight of 20 that would mean you not only prefer Spike > over Tom OR Jerry but also over Tom

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-29 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 02:23:13PM +0100, Anton Khirnov wrote: > For the record, I've edited the vote description to make it more clear. > It now looks like this: > > Five people from the list below will become the members of the Technical > Committee (TC). Assign weights to each person

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-29 Thread Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
On 28.11.23 21:30, Derek Buitenhuis wrote: On 11/28/2023 3:50 PM, Anton Khirnov wrote: Calling things generically bad is the opposite of helpful. I cannot offer help on making a paragraph that I don't fully understand become more comprehensible, as that would require I understand it fully.

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-28 Thread Derek Buitenhuis
On 11/28/2023 3:50 PM, Anton Khirnov wrote: > Calling things generically bad is the opposite of helpful. I cannot offer help on making a paragraph that I don't fully understand become more comprehensible, as that would require I understand it fully. But, I would again like to state these votes

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-28 Thread Anton Khirnov
Quoting Derek Buitenhuis (2023-11-28 15:10:10) > On 11/28/2023 1:23 PM, Anton Khirnov wrote: > > The system will assume you want to maximise the sum of weights of > > selected candidates. E.g. if X is given a weight of 10 and Y and Z have > > weights 8 and 6 respectively, then the voting

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-28 Thread Paul B Mahol
On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 3:32 PM Derek Buitenhuis wrote: > On 11/28/2023 2:30 PM, Derek Buitenhuis wrote: > > Direct insults are unacceptable and I have forwarded this to CC, > > which can hopefully look after the vote. > > (I include myself in this, the irony wasn't lost on me.) > > Its my

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-28 Thread Derek Buitenhuis
On 11/28/2023 2:30 PM, Derek Buitenhuis wrote: > Direct insults are unacceptable and I have forwarded this to CC, > which can hopefully look after the vote. (I include myself in this, the irony wasn't lost on me.) - Derek ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-28 Thread Derek Buitenhuis
On 11/28/2023 2:25 PM, Paul B Mahol wrote: > Looks like average IQ dropped bellow room temperature. Direct insults are unacceptable and I have forwarded this to CC, which can hopefully look after the vote. - Derek ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-28 Thread Paul B Mahol
On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 3:10 PM Derek Buitenhuis wrote: > On 11/28/2023 1:23 PM, Anton Khirnov wrote: > > The system will assume you want to maximise the sum of weights of > > selected candidates. E.g. if X is given a weight of 10 and Y and Z have > > weights 8 and 6 respectively, then the

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-28 Thread Derek Buitenhuis
On 11/28/2023 1:23 PM, Anton Khirnov wrote: > The system will assume you want to maximise the sum of weights of > selected candidates. E.g. if X is given a weight of 10 and Y and Z have > weights 8 and 6 respectively, then the voting algorithm will assume you > prefer a committee with both Y

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-28 Thread Devin Heitmueller
On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 8:23 AM Anton Khirnov wrote: > > For the record, I've edited the vote description to make it more clear. > It now looks like this: > > Five people from the list below will become the members of the Technical > Committee (TC). Assign weights to each person according to

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-28 Thread Anton Khirnov
For the record, I've edited the vote description to make it more clear. It now looks like this: Five people from the list below will become the members of the Technical Committee (TC). Assign weights to each person according to how much you want them to be in the committee (higher weight =

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-28 Thread James Almer
On 11/28/2023 9:34 AM, Anton Khirnov wrote: Quoting Ronald S. Bultje (2023-11-28 13:19:00) Hi, On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 6:58 AM Anton Khirnov wrote: There are reports from people on IRC that they got confused by the change and voted the reverse of what they meant. Sadly there is no way to

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-28 Thread Anton Khirnov
Quoting Ronald S. Bultje (2023-11-28 13:19:00) > Hi, > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 6:58 AM Anton Khirnov wrote: > > > There are reports from people on IRC that they got confused by the > > change and voted the reverse of what they meant. Sadly there is no way > > to change your vote after it's

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-28 Thread Paul B Mahol
On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 1:19 PM Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 6:58 AM Anton Khirnov wrote: > > > There are reports from people on IRC that they got confused by the > > change and voted the reverse of what they meant. Sadly there is no way > > to change your vote

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-28 Thread Ronald S. Bultje
Hi, On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 6:58 AM Anton Khirnov wrote: > There are reports from people on IRC that they got confused by the > change and voted the reverse of what they meant. Sadly there is no way > to change your vote after it's been case, so if there is a nontrivial > number of such people,

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-28 Thread Anton Khirnov
I configured these votes to use proportional representation, which seems to have changed the UI from plain rankings (visually higher/numerically lower rank = candidate is more preferred) to manually assigned weights (higher weight = candidate is more preferred). There are reports from people on

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-28 Thread Anton Khirnov
The two votes have now been started, with 51 authorized voters, as generated by $ ./tools/general_assembly.pl --emails # GA for 2020-11-06T00:00:00/2023-11-06T00:00:00; 51 people; SHA256:343cb68cff645e15169aaad85312234cefc2e76bc67d1cd93e959205dfe0b975;

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-21 Thread Anton Khirnov
Hi, this is a reminder that this vote will be started next Monday (2023-11-27). The candidates so far are: * TC: - Jan Ekström - Anton Khirnov - Lynne - Martin Storsjö - Niklas Haas - Michael Niedermayer - Mark Thompson * CC: - Dave Rice - James

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-11 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 07:52:24PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Michael Niedermayer (12023-11-11): > > Forming a new CC doesnt prevent teh old one from doing its job > > there is no relation. > > The previous CC had lost its mandate two years before. But that doesnt matter if someone insults

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-11 Thread Vittorio Giovara
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 1:52 PM Nicolas George wrote: > itself), but I remember observing that several members were in fact very > biassed. > [citation needed] -- Vittorio ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-11 Thread Nicolas George
Michael Niedermayer (12023-11-11): > Forming a new CC doesnt prevent teh old one from doing its job > there is no relation. The previous CC had lost its mandate two years before. Also, I cannot easily find the list of members (which is a problem in itself), but I remember observing that several

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-11 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 03:37:38PM -0300, James Almer wrote: > On 11/11/2023 3:34 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 05, 2023 at 11:02:05AM +0100, Anton Khirnov wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > as previously discussed, we need to re-elect the members of the > > > Technical and Community

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-11 Thread James Almer
On 11/11/2023 3:34 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: On Sun, Nov 05, 2023 at 11:02:05AM +0100, Anton Khirnov wrote: Hi all, as previously discussed, we need to re-elect the members of the Technical and Community Committees. As a reminder - the Technical Committee (TC) resolves technical disputes,

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-11 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Sun, Nov 05, 2023 at 11:02:05AM +0100, Anton Khirnov wrote: > Hi all, > as previously discussed, we need to re-elect the members of the > Technical and Community Committees. As a reminder - the Technical > Committee (TC) resolves technical disputes, while the Community > Committee (CC) resolves

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-11 Thread Rémi Denis-Courmont
Le sunnuntaina 5. marraskuuta 2023, 12.02.05 EET Anton Khirnov a écrit : > Anyone else wishing to volunteer for TC or CC, please reply to this > email. I hereby "volunteer" for the CC. For those who don't know me, I am a research engineer in system software working for a large telecommunication

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-07 Thread Anton Khirnov
Quoting Vittorio Giovara (2023-11-06 21:06:50) > Could I volunteer as well for CC? Certainly, anyone willing to do the work is welcome. Cheers, -- Anton Khirnov ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-06 Thread Vittorio Giovara
On Sun, Nov 5, 2023 at 5:02 AM Anton Khirnov wrote: > Hi all, > as previously discussed, we need to re-elect the members of the > Technical and Community Committees. As a reminder - the Technical > Committee (TC) resolves technical disputes, while the Community > Committee (CC) resolves personal

[FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections

2023-11-05 Thread Anton Khirnov
Hi all, as previously discussed, we need to re-elect the members of the Technical and Community Committees. As a reminder - the Technical Committee (TC) resolves technical disputes, while the Community Committee (CC) resolves personal conflicts and code of conduct violations. Anyone can become a