Re: [FFmpeg-user] does ffmpeg support MVC (3D BluRays)?

2023-11-28 Thread Philippe Cerfon
Hey Paul. On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 4:51 PM Paul B Mahol wrote: > IIRC MVC in h264 is not supported. What a pity. I've filed https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/10706 in case someone is ever going to work on this. > stereo3d filter is for anaglyph presentation of decoded 3d frames and some > other min

Re: [FFmpeg-user] drawtext filter missing

2023-11-28 Thread Paul B Mahol
On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 9:40 PM Leo Butler via ffmpeg-user < ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org> wrote: > Hello, > > I ran into this problem with the current Debian testing build, so I > thought I would try the static build. Both are compiled with > --enable-libfreetype but both barf on a drawtext filter. I a

[FFmpeg-user] drawtext filter missing

2023-11-28 Thread Leo Butler via ffmpeg-user
#drawtext-1 the libfreetype library should be sufficient. See also: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1056597 https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/10705#ticket Leo ffmpeg started on 2023-11-28 at 14:38:33 Report written to "ffmpeg-20231128-143833.log" Log level: 48 Command line

Re: [FFmpeg-user] More Liberal Licensing

2023-11-28 Thread Phil Rhodes via ffmpeg-user
> So whether or not you agree with the current licensing structure, if you>  >want to use ffmpeg components you have to play by those rules. Well, of course, but that's not really my concern: it's more that even if you were playing by the rules, it might actually be quite difficult to prove that

Re: [FFmpeg-user] More Liberal Licensing

2023-11-28 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 11/28/2023 4:09 AM, Phil Rhodes via ffmpeg-user wrote: The thing which makes all this a bit difficult is whether it's possible (or easy) to prove that a given distributed binary is actually compiled from the source code one is offering. I'm not sure that this has ever been tested in court - mo

Re: [FFmpeg-user] does ffmpeg support MVC (3D BluRays)?

2023-11-28 Thread Paul B Mahol
On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 11:31 PM Philippe Cerfon wrote: > Hey there. > > I couldn't find a definitive answer on this. > Some Wikipedia articles and stackoverflow questions claim ffmpeg would > not support playback of MVC (and thus 3D BluRays). > > IIRC MVC in h264 is not supported. > I don't ha

Re: [FFmpeg-user] More Liberal Licensing

2023-11-28 Thread Phil Rhodes via ffmpeg-user
As has been said, it would be essentially impossible to track down everyone who's contributed to a project the size of ffmpeg and gain permission of each to alter the licence, so the discussion is effectively moot. Another reason it's moot is that open source is effectively a religion to a lot

Re: [FFmpeg-user] More Liberal Licensing

2023-11-28 Thread Rob Hallam
As has been stated, it seems vanishingly unlikely there will be a relicense. However, it seems there is a misconception about the GPL here: On Tue, 28 Nov 2023 at 10:24, Suminda Sirinath Salpitikorala Dharmasena wrote: >*GPL means that all forks need to be public, not that the modifications need

Re: [FFmpeg-user] More Liberal Licensing

2023-11-28 Thread David Bernat
Licensing is not the issue. Show of force required. On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 5:41 AM Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 28.11.23 um 11:35 schrieb David Bernat: > > Please unsubscribe. I have sent numerous requests. > > what is your problem? > > nobody needs another 10 mails within minutes in the style

Re: [FFmpeg-user] More Liberal Licensing

2023-11-28 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 28.11.23 um 11:35 schrieb David Bernat: Please unsubscribe. I have sent numerous requests. what is your problem? nobody needs another 10 mails within minutes in the style of "This is not meant to be used as a library. This is an application" it's not possible to change the license, it

Re: [FFmpeg-user] More Liberal Licensing

2023-11-28 Thread Suminda Sirinath Salpitikorala Dharmasena
Noted. No worries. Just asked to see if it is a possibility. On Tue, 28 Nov 2023 at 16:04, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 28.11.23 um 11:32 schrieb Suminda Sirinath Salpitikorala Dharmasena: > > This is the reason OpenJDK is successful though at this point of time > they > > are very well at a

Re: [FFmpeg-user] More Liberal Licensing

2023-11-28 Thread David Bernat
Please unsubscribe. I have sent numerous requests. On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 5:34 AM Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 28.11.23 um 11:32 schrieb Suminda Sirinath Salpitikorala Dharmasena: > > This is the reason OpenJDK is successful though at this point of time > they > > are very well at a point they

Re: [FFmpeg-user] More Liberal Licensing

2023-11-28 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 28.11.23 um 11:32 schrieb Suminda Sirinath Salpitikorala Dharmasena: This is the reason OpenJDK is successful though at this point of time they are very well at a point they can change the license. GPL nature of the license prevented fragmentation by de-incentivising competing incompatible

Re: [FFmpeg-user] More Liberal Licensing

2023-11-28 Thread Suminda Sirinath Salpitikorala Dharmasena
This is the reason OpenJDK is successful though at this point of time they are very well at a point they can change the license. GPL nature of the license prevented fragmentation by de-incentivising competing incompatible hard forks. > ___ ffmpeg-user m

Re: [FFmpeg-user] More Liberal Licensing

2023-11-28 Thread Suminda Sirinath Salpitikorala Dharmasena
In application software fragmentation can hurt. *GPL reduces the risk of fragmentation. This is how the Linux Kernel succeeded. ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link

Re: [FFmpeg-user] More Liberal Licensing

2023-11-28 Thread Suminda Sirinath Salpitikorala Dharmasena
This is not meant to be used as a library. This is an application. ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject

Re: [FFmpeg-user] More Liberal Licensing

2023-11-28 Thread Jean-Baptiste Kempf
On Tue, 28 Nov 2023, at 11:23, Suminda Sirinath Salpitikorala Dharmasena wrote: > changes once the changes become substatial. Once a library project grows > beyond a critical mass LGPL hurts the project more than helps. Let me introduce you to a small project: http://kernel.org/ -- Jean-Baptist

Re: [FFmpeg-user] More Liberal Licensing

2023-11-28 Thread Suminda Sirinath Salpitikorala Dharmasena
For a project like this, forking into a private or proprietary code base with substantial modifications is not feasible as maintaining it will be difficult and keeping up and modifying upstream changes will be very difficult. Also maintaining a private hard fork will be very costly. > copyleft so

Re: [FFmpeg-user] More Liberal Licensing

2023-11-28 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 28.11.23 um 07:28 schrieb Suminda Sirinath Salpitikorala Dharmasena: - You cannot just borrow some code than using the library thanks god ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To un