Re: filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: Pixels per inch vs DPI

2001-10-26 Thread SKID Photography
Rob Geraghty wrote: I think that's an important point - we all have different standards. I have a photographic print on my wall at home which everyone I know loves, yet it was made from ordinary 100ASA Kodak print film back in about 1982. It's quite grainy! The point is you would normally

Re: filmscanners: Pixels per inch vs DPI

2001-10-26 Thread markthomasz
(still chuckling :) Thanks for the very refreshing posts, Wire! Makes me glad I came back.. Hey, Austin.. Drop the loupe, hop up from your desk, stick an 11 x 17 300dpi print on the wall next to a 200 and a 100 - and then take 2 steps backward.. It is generally agreed that your average

Re: filmscanners: OT: edible CDs?

2001-10-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Not a lot of 30deg 90% RH around here in Scotland! Ian - Original Message - From: Yuri Sos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 3:47 AM Subject: filmscanners: OT: edible CDs? Off topic, but this was an interesting story aired on an ABC (Australian

filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: Minolta Scan Multi Pro - chasseurs dĀ“images review

2001-10-26 Thread David Mantripp
I'll see if I can OCR it, if not I'll try to scan it and put it on ftp somewhere as a PDF --- but this will not be until tonight at the earliest :-) -Original Message- From: Bernhard Ess [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 7:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: filmscanners: Gizmo to make flatbed scan large format film?

2001-10-26 Thread Arthur Entlich
Wiping the tears from my face, after a really hard laugh... ;-) More seriously, this idea is not only not funny, but indeed is produced by many scanner manufacturers. AT one time it was an option that one could by separately (often at a way too high cost). The main problems with using a

RE: filmscanners: Pixels per inch vs DPI

2001-10-26 Thread Austin Franklin
Seriously, I mean 100 ppi sent to the printer, not a 100 pixel wide image! I have standards. I knew you meant 100ppi sent to the printer...and as I said, I can't imagine how you are getting quality images at 100ppi, unless they are small images like 4x6 or very poor negatives that don't have

Re: filmscanners: Pixels per inch vs DPI

2001-10-26 Thread Arthur Entlich
The original HP Photosmart printer (the big boxy one), which at the time produced some of the best photo-quality images that came out of an inkjet printer, was designed around input of 100-150 ppi, and used 300 ppi output based upon a 6 color (CcMmyK) process. In fact, if memory serves me, it

RE: filmscanners: Pixels per inch vs DPI

2001-10-26 Thread Austin Franklin
Hey, Austin.. Drop the loupe, hop up from your desk, stick an 11 x 17 300dpi print on the wall next to a 200 and a 100 - and then take 2 steps backward.. I have a wall I use for print evaluation. It has a large magnetic white board, and strip magnets on it, used to hold the prints. I put

Re: filmscanners: Loading the Polaroid 4000 Filmstrip Carrier?

2001-10-26 Thread Donald Denburg
Johnny Johnson wrote: At 07:56 PM 10/25/01 -0400, Martin Greene wrote: I'm amazed, but I just can't figure out how to open the filmstrip carrier. Would appreciate help. Hi Martin, If you think getting it open is a pain - just wait until you try to load it with film. ;-) The

Re: filmscanners: Loading the Polaroid 4000 Filmstrip Carrier?

2001-10-26 Thread Martin Greene
Thanks Johnny and Margaret Thanks for the advice. I was reluctant to push too hard, fearing I'd break it. But, following your advice, with much pushing, I got it open. It was easier the next time. I also managed to load it. The Nikon Supercoolscan 4000 is, by comparison, a pleasure to load.

RE: filmscanners: Silverfast Unsharp Mask

2001-10-26 Thread michael shaffer
RogerMillerPhoto writes ... Sharpen only in Photoshop and not at all in Silverfast. ... Real World PS would imply something differently. Blatner Fraser separate needs for sharpening into 2 separate phases ... early and late. A need for a early sharpening might be because the input device

RE: filmscanners: Pixels per inch vs DPI

2001-10-26 Thread Mark T.
Austin wrote: My largest print size is 17x22 from my 3000. I can see differences from standard viewing distances that have convinced me that 180+ is the minimum resolution that is acceptable to me for the type of work I do, if not 240+ preferred. 100 is vastly degraded. 'Vastly'? Well, I bow

Re: filmscanners: Loading the Polaroid 4000 Filmstrip Carrier?

2001-10-26 Thread Dave King
There really isn't that much to it when you realize (finally:) that you should hold the carrier so that you're only gripping it by the edges of the bottom part. This allows the top part to bow when you push the release tab, and then it's very easy to open. Dave - Original Message -

Re: filmscanners: Silverfast Unsharp Mask

2001-10-26 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.
I respectfully disagree - scanning inherently results in unsharpness, which can be dealt with to some degree by initial sharpening with Silverfast, Vuescan (which I use), or even in Photoshop. I follow the recommendations of Bruce Fraser as he lays them out at

RE: filmscanners: Pixels per inch vs DPI

2001-10-26 Thread Austin Franklin
The process used a type of overprinting - laying down more than one ink drop per location, If true, that would be interesting. My understanding is the inks used in these types of inkjet printers can't do that, simply because the (I believe it's because they are pigmented?) inks don't mix. I

Re: filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: Gizmo to make flatbed scan large format film?

2001-10-26 Thread Rob Geraghty
Herb Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you very much for saving me the time money to mess with that idea. As a follow-up, is there a scanner with light-lid that stands above the rest? That's an answer for someone else to field - after trying a couple and being disappointed, I bought a

Re: filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: Pixels per inch vs DPI

2001-10-26 Thread Rob Geraghty
SKID Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's important to remember that film grain and pixels are not interchangeable terms. I didn't mean to imply that they were. I was simply trying to make an analogy about expected viewing distance. I think that part of it, is that pixels are

Re: filmscanners: Pixels per inch vs DPI

2001-10-26 Thread Rob Geraghty
Austin Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: side by side and evaluate them. My largest print size is 17x22 from my 3000. I can see differences from standard viewing distances that have convinced me that 180+ is the minimum resolution that is acceptable to me for the type of work I do, if not

filmscanners: Agfa Duoscan T1200

2001-10-26 Thread Stanley Neil Glass
I have a perfectly fine Duoscan T1200 which is, according to Agfa, apparently SCSI only, which I would like to continue to use with my new PowerBook TI which has only Firewire and USB, but which will be using OS 9.1. Any suggestions? -- I hope this will permit us to prevail against

RE: filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: Pixels per inch vs DPI

2001-10-26 Thread Austin Franklin
I don't see why stochastic or random dye clouds inherently provides more information than a pixel. Actually, FAR more. It's their position and size, not their color, that is far more information than pixels are. Pixels (in current implementations) must fall on a grid pattern, and are a

RE: filmscanners: Pixels per inch vs DPI

2001-10-26 Thread Austin Franklin
Hi Austin, Do you have another printer? Yes. Another 3000 ;-) and two 1160s. The reason I ask is that the 3000 is very long in the tooth. Well, it ends up that it's still the absolute best printer for Piezography, much to my delight! I'm just wondering how the output from an 1160 or

Re: filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: Pixels per inch vs DPI

2001-10-26 Thread SKID Photography
Art, I'm not trying to be difficult, but I don't understand what you are trying to say with the below post relative to film grain. Are you saying that because inkjet printers employ a schoastic dithering pattern to represent pixels that film grain and scan pixels (samples, whatever) are

Re: filmscanners: Silverfast Unsharp Mask

2001-10-26 Thread RogerMillerPhoto
My alibi is that I stated, As a general rule, sharpening shouldn't be done more than once and even Bruce Fraser indicates that my comments are in agreement with conventional wisdom. Nevertheless, you and Michael Shaffer are quite correct in pointing out that there are more sofisticated

Re: filmscanners: Gizmo to make flatbed scan large format film?

2001-10-26 Thread Robert E. Wright
If you want to experiement, here's a hint: http://www.afn.org/~afn11300/slides.html Bob Wright - Original Message - From: Herb Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 6:08 PM Subject: filmscanners: Gizmo to make flatbed scan large format film?

Re: filmscanners: Loading the Polaroid 4000 Filmstrip Carrier?

2001-10-26 Thread Martin Greene
Johnny Thanks much. Your method works very well and seems to be the easiest. on 10/26/01 6:16 AM, Donald Denburg at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johnny Johnson wrote: At 07:56 PM 10/25/01 -0400, Martin Greene wrote: I'm amazed, but I just can't figure out how to open the filmstrip carrier.

Re: filmscanners: vuescan, firewire, MAc9.2

2001-10-26 Thread Bill Fernandez
Steve-- That's interesting. I'm running MacOS 8.6 successfully with FireWire hard drives and scanners (including my LS400-ED) using other applications. I was excited when Ed announced that VueScan would work with FireWire on MacOS 9.x, and was hoping it would work with 8.6 too, but it

filmscanners: 12bits or 8bits?

2001-10-26 Thread Sisk98
Hi everyone Is it best to scan at 12 bits or 8 bits using the Polaroid sprintscan 4000 Polacolor Insight software? When I do scan at 12bits and is sent to Photoshop the image is dark. Is this normal? Setting the white and black points is very difficult. Does it make any sense to do any

Re: filmscanners: 12bits or 8bits?

2001-10-26 Thread RogerMillerPhoto
When you scan at 12 bits you are basically doing a "raw" scan without making any corrections to the image. The expectation is that all corrections will be made in Photoshop. It would be normal for the image to look dark until you process it in Photoshop, where you'll eventually convert it to an

RE: filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: Gizmo to make flatbed scan large format film?

2001-10-26 Thread Herb Bauer
Hello Rob, I believe I'm starting to get the message. I've see very nice results at a list member's site, and I believe for web pictures a flatbed with transparency lid would work on medium format and larger slides, but it is perhaps a bit limiting after a while. Thank you everyone! Herb

Re: filmscanners: Pixels per inch vs DPI

2001-10-26 Thread Rob Geraghty
Austin Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it ends up that it's still the absolute best printer for Piezography, much to my delight! Ah, but the Piezo printer driver completely replaces the Epson one. For BW (Piezography) the 3000 is FAR better than the 1160. Even the Cone boys make

Re: filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: Pixels per inch vs DPI

2001-10-26 Thread Rob Geraghty
Austin Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob wrote: I don't see why stochastic or random dye clouds inherently provides more information than a pixel. Actually, FAR more. It's their position and size, not their color, that is far more information than pixels are. Pixels (in current

Re: filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: Pixels per inch vs DPI

2001-10-26 Thread Rob Geraghty
SKID Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you saying that because inkjet printers employ a schoastic dithering pattern to represent pixels that film grain and scan pixels (samples, whatever) are equivalent in regards to the amount of information they impart to an inkjet printer? I think

RE: filmscanners: 12bits or 8bits?

2001-10-26 Thread Hemingway, David J
Stephen, In the scan tab there are three bit selections. It sounds like you are using the raw option which will give you the data just as it comes from the CCD which is dark and this is normal. Without going into the gory details do not use this selection until you have more experience in

Re: filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: Pixels per inch vs DPI

2001-10-26 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.
Chapter 14 of Professional Photoshop - Resolving the Resolution Issue: printed dots per inch consist of grids of spots per dot - of differing picoliter sizes depending on the printer. Apples and oranges? Maris - Original Message - From: Rob Geraghty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

RE: filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: Gizmo to make flatbed scan large format film?

2001-10-26 Thread Stan McQueen
At 06:44 PM 10/26/2001 -0600, you wrote: Hello Rob, I believe I'm starting to get the message. I've see very nice results at a list member's site, and I believe for web pictures a flatbed with transparency lid would work on medium format and larger slides, but it is perhaps a bit limiting after