Re: filmscanners: VueScan Histogram

2001-12-16 Thread Mark T.
I would second Julian's comments - expecially the part about leaving the histograms in view for the Preview Memory function - that's the first thing I tried to do and was a little frustrated by not being able to see what happened until I had hit the tab again. Ideally leave the old histo

filmscanners: VueScan Histogram

2001-12-16 Thread Erik Kaffehr
Hi Ed! Just a question, is the y-axis in the histograms linear or log? Best regards, Erik Kaffehr -- Erik Kaffehr[EMAIL PROTECTED] alt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mariebergsvägen 53 +46 155 219338 (home) S-611 66 Nyköping +46 155 263515 (office) Sweden

Re: filmscanners: VueScan Histogram

2001-12-16 Thread EdHamrick
In a message dated 12/16/2001 3:34:28 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would second Julian's comments - expecially the part about leaving the histograms in view for the Preview Memory function It's fixed in 7.3.5, which I'll release in the next day or so. Regards, Ed Hamrick

Re: filmscanners: VueScan Histogram

2001-12-16 Thread EdHamrick
In a message dated 12/16/2001 4:15:12 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just a question, is the y-axis in the histograms linear or log? It's linear. Would people prefer it as a log scale? What scale do other programs use? Regards, Ed Hamrick

Re: filmscanners: VueScan Histogram

2001-12-16 Thread Julian Vrieslander
On 12/16/01 4:33 AM, Mark T. [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: PS - I find it hard to believe we are all sitting here having our needs/wants met by a software developer, often in hours, let alone months or years.. Ed, I hope you never learn the 'normal' way to develop software... :-) Yeah, I think

Re: filmscanners: VueScan Histogram

2001-12-16 Thread sirius
i like it linear, it shows differences in comprehensible proportions. i suppose the histo in pshop is also linear. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 10:36 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: VueScan Histogram In a message

Re: filmscanners: VueScan Histogram

2001-12-16 Thread Bob Armstrong
Ed wrote: I think the best way to do this is for me to just add a histogram and then evolve it using people's suggestions. It's quite possible that a simple histogram of the preview (within the crop window) and the scan will be good enough. I can worry about fancy stuff like movable

Re: filmscanners: VueScan Histogram

2001-12-16 Thread David Gordon
Colin Maddock [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote on Sat, 15 Dec 2001 10:07:11 +1300 I don't feel the need for a histogram in VueScan either. Setting the black and white clipping levels does all that is needed at the scanning stage, along with control of gamma. How do you know where to clip the black and

Re: filmscanners: VueScan Histogram

2001-12-16 Thread David Gordon
Julian Vrieslander [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote on Sat, 15 Dec 2001 00:33:41 -0500 Maybe with more experience I will get better at inspecting VueScan's displays and choosing the right values for WP, BP, and gamma. But since these displays are not color managed, I also have to mentally compensate

Re: filmscanners: VueScan 7.3.4 Available

2001-12-16 Thread David Gordon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote on Sat, 15 Dec 2001 10:49:42 -0500 I just released VueScan 7.3.4 for Windows, Mac OS 8/9/X Isn't this mention (on the download page) of something which doesn't exist Please note that the shareware version of VueScan will be disabled on PowerPC G5

Re: filmscanners: VueScan 7.3.4 Available

2001-12-16 Thread EdHamrick
In a message dated 12/16/2001 8:17:47 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please note that the shareware version of VueScan will be disabled on PowerPC G5 processors, and updated product and pricing information for these processors will be announced at a future date. the kind of thing

RE: filmscanners: VueScan Histogram

2001-12-16 Thread michael shaffer
Ed writes ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just a question, is the y-axis in the histograms linear or log? It's linear. Would people prefer it as a log scale? What scale do other programs use? Others are linear ... but I have to admit, a log scale would be more accurate as the data

Re: filmscanners: VueScan Histogram

2001-12-16 Thread EdHamrick
In a message dated 12/16/2001 9:46:17 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What scale do other programs use? Others are linear ... but I have to admit, a log scale would be more accurate as the data approached the Wp and Bp. (... Hmmm, maybe not accurate, but at least visible ...)

Re: filmscanners: VueScan Histogram (should be log?)

2001-12-16 Thread Erik Kaffehr
Hi! I don't know. My reasoning is that it would be useful to have a log scale, in case where there is only a small fraction of very bright pixels. I think Photoshop uses linear scale and GIMP log scale, but I don't know. I of course have the source code for GIMP and could look if I really

RE: filmscanners: VueScan Histogram

2001-12-16 Thread michael shaffer
Ed writes ... I've made the histogram type an option in the Prefs tab. The options are Linear, Square root and Logarithmic. I'll release this in VueScan 7.3.5. What exactly are you plotting on the y-axis? ... e.g., any RGB value 0 255, or some calculated luminosity value? Raw RGB, or

Re: filmscanners: VueScan Histogram

2001-12-16 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.
You cover it all! Maris - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 8:47 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: VueScan Histogram | In a message dated 12/16/2001 9:46:17 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | writes: | | What scale do other

RE: filmscanners: VueScan Histogram

2001-12-16 Thread Austin Franklin
I've made the histogram type an option in the Prefs tab. The options are Linear, Square root and Logarithmic. I'll release this in VueScan 7.3.5. Hi Ed, Why not make it selectable in the histogram window? Regards, Austin

filmscanners: Vuescan Histogram continued

2001-12-16 Thread sirius
sorry for doubleposting but i was in the wrong thread... My personal desire was to have the decision about the WP, BP and gamma settings easier and more repeatable. to achieve this i whished more visual and analytic feedback and numerical consistency. The histogram surely helps (on the analytic

Re: filmscanners: VueScan Histogram

2001-12-16 Thread Julian Vrieslander
On 12/16/01 8:03 AM, David Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: Julian Vrieslander [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote on Sat, 15 Dec 2001 00:33:41 -0500 Maybe with more experience I will get better at inspecting VueScan's displays and choosing the right values for WP, BP, and gamma. But since these

Re: filmscanners: VueScan Histogram

2001-12-16 Thread Bernie Ess
Could someone explain to me in a few words how to work with a histogram when scanning? I can see it in VueScan but I don´t know what to do with it, because there are no sliders anyway... Thanks in advance, Bernhard

filmscanners: Bug in VueScan 7.3.4 Mac?

2001-12-16 Thread DRP
Hi Ed, Hi all I've some problems with this new 7.3.4 version. I'm running a G4/400 with 320Mo RAM, under system 9.1 (french) First, Vs crashed during my first experiments (I guess it freezed when I typed my registr. number). Vuescan 7.3.4 now refuses to record it, so I get the grey lines and

Re: filmscanners: VueScan Histogram

2001-12-16 Thread Colin Maddock
David Gordon asked: How do you know where to clip the black and white points? I always leave black clipping at 0, and white clipping at a minimal amount, perhaps 0.1, so that the VueScan scan contains all the tonal range that was on the neg/slide. Any further clipping of the end points for

Re: filmscanners: Minolta Multi Pro with negs

2001-12-16 Thread Victor Landweber
To the list: I second Tomasz Zakrzewski's request for information concerning the Minolta Scan Multi Pro's performance as a negative scanner. That's what I want to use it for, and have only seen one user's report that was negative about its use with negatives. Are there any contravening

Re: filmscanners: VueScan Histogram (explained)

2001-12-16 Thread Erik Kaffehr
Hi! You probably want to choose White point in such a way that the only a small percentage falls outside the histogram. Setting WP to 0.0 mean that you get everything, but that's probably not what you. Specular highlights should probably not be included in the density range. So you would use

Re: filmscanners: VueScan Histogram

2001-12-16 Thread David Gordon
Julian Vrieslander [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote on Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:31:34 -0500 Maybe you are running on a PC and using sRGB as your color space. If so, a color managed display is less important. An outrageous suggestion, you shall be hearing from my lawyers in the morning... ;) I run on a

filmscanners: Newbie Questions?

2001-12-16 Thread ALEXSCIFI
Happy Holidays Folks, 1) How does the latest generations of Nikon scanners compare to the latest but inexpensive services of a custom lab generating a PRO PHOTO CD of 4000dpi--both 35mm and MF? 2) Which yields the maximum information to digital via very good to high quality scanning (dmax

Re: filmscanners: VueScan Histogram

2001-12-16 Thread Julian Vrieslander
On 12/16/01 4:19 PM, David Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: Julian Vrieslander [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote on Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:31:34 -0500 Maybe you are running on a PC and using sRGB as your color space. If so, a color managed display is less important. An outrageous suggestion, you shall

RE: filmscanners: VueScan Histogram

2001-12-16 Thread Jawed Ashraf
Adobe RGB has (ironically enough, this is after all a Mac company!) a built-in gamma of 2.2. Therefore on a Mac operating at gamma 1.8, with an application (Vuescan?) that isn't performing any translation of the image from source colour space into monitor colour space, Adobe RGB will look wrong.

Re: filmscanners: VueScan Histogram

2001-12-16 Thread P Elkin
- Original Message - From: Colin Maddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 7:32 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: VueScan Histogram David Gordon asked: How do you know where to clip the black and white points? I always leave black clipping at 0,

filmscanners: ViewScan

2001-12-16 Thread John Rossi
Does ViewScan support Epson Perfection 1650 photo scanners and Windows ME? Will using ViewScan allow better control of the scanned image? Thanks, John