[filmscanners] Re: VueScan 7.5 beta 15 Available

2002-02-09 Thread Arthur Entlich
Larry Berman wrote: > Just installed beta 13. > > Are we scanning at dots per inch or pixels per inch? > > Larry You are kidding, aren't you? Art Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubsc

[filmscanners] Re: [film scanners] Re: Scanning old Lantern Slides

2002-02-09 Thread Charles Stirling
** Reply to note from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu, 7 Feb 2002 22:35:02 -0600 > You have made a few assumptions that may not hold up completely. Quite possibly :-) > You assumed that it would be copied to true B&W film; but the original > discussion which gave rise to the idea of copying the lantern s

[filmscanners] Re: VueScan multiple passes possibility

2002-02-09 Thread Eric
Tony: >I don't share your enthusiasm for this, but if you really want it you can >scan twice and combine in PS. That's called manual work. If it can be done in software with automatic alignment, why would I want to do this painstakingly and individually by hand? :) Eric

[filmscanners] Re: JPEG Lossless mirror?

2002-02-09 Thread Robert Meier
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Re-encoding *unchanged* data at the same compression setting > gives > no additional loss. It does give an additional loss. Nevertheless, the additional loss is very small, much smaller then what you lose when you store a tiff image with the highest jpeg quality in

[filmscanners] RE: Hard Drive thread terminated

2002-02-09 Thread
Thank you! I was beginning to get flashbacks from my reading of Gulliver's Travels and the debate between the Big Endians and the Little Endians. - David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 9:

[filmscanners] Re: ADMIN: List charter alterations

2002-02-09 Thread
> I therefore propose a few revisions to the list charter. You have earned my instant respect with such enlightened administrative decisions. I'm certain this new policy will work out perfectly. I have marked my calendar appropriately. Mac Mac McDougald -- DOOGLE DIGITAL 500 P

[filmscanners] Re: VueScan 7.5 beta 8 Available

2002-02-09 Thread Eric
Arthur: >Even Ed has mentioned that you will not gain much, if anything from >doing so. It's that "little bit" that I wouldn't mind gaining. :) I'm happy with incremental improvements. Anything that will help the image. Don't get me wrong. I'm extremely happy with what I can get from my SS4

[filmscanners] RE: JPEG Lossless mirror?

2002-02-09 Thread
I believe you are not correct, here. I have read in several accounts, both from people who have tried this experimentally and from people who understand the theory of JPEG compression far better than I do, that opening a JPEG, and then resaving it without making any changes to the file, at the sam

[filmscanners] Caution: Irony virus alert! (was ADMIN: List charter alterations)

2002-02-09 Thread Peter Marquis-Kyle
Watch out, I think Tony's caught it... - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 1:45 PM Subject: [filmscanners] ADMIN: List charter alterations > Naturally I have received a complaint about my summary blockage of the Hard

[filmscanners] Re: ADMIN: List charter alterations

2002-02-09 Thread Hersch Nitikman
Please say it isn't so, Tony! At 03:45 AM 02/09/2002 +, you wrote: >Naturally I have received a complaint about my summary blockage of the Hard >Disk Speed thread. I concede it may have been a misjudgement on my part >that summarily deprived a large number of readers of invaluable >informati

[filmscanners] Re: ADMIN: List charter alterations

2002-02-09 Thread Arthur Entlich
I feel much better, since I'm usually out of Wednesdays ;-) However, I'm not sure it is fair to limit the "my wife is divorcing me because..." threads to just one reason and to just one day. These are matters that could be termed "emergencies" by some, that can't wait a week. Of course, not as b

[filmscanners] Re: ADMIN: List charter alterations

2002-02-09 Thread Dana Trout
Tony, I burst out laughing when I got to (5)Sunday ... It won't matter because generally I'll have the server in bits, fitting a new hard drive. Don't ask what sort, it's not Wednesday. I'm really glad you've managed to keep your sense of humor through all the travails of providing this forum f

[filmscanners] Re: Digital ICE

2002-02-09 Thread Lawrence Smith
> > Now that is interesting. I understand the principle, but my experience, is > that drum scanners actually require more sharpening than high end CCDs...at > least that's what I've seen in scans I've done on both a Howtek 4500 and a > Leaf 45. Though I agree, what you say makes sense theoretic

[filmscanners] Re: ADMIN: List charter alterations

2002-02-09 Thread Preben S. Kristensen
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I therefore propose a few revisions to the list charter. (1)On Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursdays, list discussion. >cut< Tony, Are these times GMT based? Also, would it not be a good idea for you to be able to remote-zap offenders' h

[filmscanners] OT - Endorsement of List charter alterations

2002-02-09 Thread Mark T.
Tony wrote: >Naturally I have received a complaint.. only *one*...! ><..text about new list arrangements neatly clipped> >..I trust this new, enlightened structure meets the requirements of all list >participants. I *would* heartily endorse this.. but it's Saturday and I'm out of the office

[filmscanners] Re: Polacolor Insight version 5.5.x

2002-02-09 Thread Ron Carlson
Hi David, I presume PCI will support the SS4000 as well as the SS4000+. Can I download it without removing version 4.5? If so, can I install it without removing version 4.5? I ask because, up to this point I have only needed to scan slides and my set up is working fine for that but I'd like to sta

[filmscanners] Re: Digital ICE

2002-02-09 Thread Arthur Entlich
> -Original Message- > From: Preben S. Kristensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 3:58 AM > To: Jack Phipps > Subject: [filmscanners] Re: Digital ICE > > > >>and Digital PIC our new process for scanning exposed undeveloped film. >> > > > Jack, > > This sounds

[filmscanners] Re: Digital ICE

2002-02-09 Thread Arthur Entlich
Jack Phipps wrote: > Good morning Art! > Thanks for your comments and expansion of the information. I understand that you're not the principle inventor, or even on of the engineers, and you are trying to translate the info to us in a "lay" fashion as you understand it. I enjoy seeing how y

[filmscanners] Re: VueScan 7.5 beta 8 Available

2002-02-09 Thread Arthur Entlich
Even Ed has mentioned that you will not gain much, if anything from doing so. The noise levels aren't easily improved upon on the SS4000 and SS4000+, but if you have the chance to try it, let us know if you get any improvement without loss due to misregistration. I did try a multipass (x4) and l

[filmscanners] RE: Digital ICE

2002-02-09 Thread Austin Franklin
> > Now that is interesting. I understand the principle, but my > experience, is > > that drum scanners actually require more sharpening than high > end CCDs...at > > least that's what I've seen in scans I've done on both a Howtek > 4500 and a > > Leaf 45. Though I agree, what you say makes sen

[filmscanners] Re: Lazy Sensor

2002-02-09 Thread Arthur Entlich
Jack Jansen wrote: > Art, > Thanks for the explanation of "lazy sensor." Too bad about the half hour > Netscape owes you. > I have a follow-up question. When you say "one or more elements are > electronically outside of the normal > response curve, usually, it seems slower or less responsive,

[filmscanners] Re: JPEG Lossless mirror?

2002-02-09 Thread Pat Cullinan, jr.
Robert Meier wrote: > --- "Pat Cullinan, jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I had been a believer in the proposition that multiple jpeg saves > > would > > degrade an image, but after reading a notice to the contrary in one > > of the > > trade mags, I did my own trials and now I save and resa

[filmscanners] Re: ADMIN: List charter alterations

2002-02-09 Thread Shunith Dutt
LOL!! - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 9:15 AM Subject: [filmscanners] ADMIN: List charter alterations Naturally I have received a complaint about my summary blockage of the Hard Disk Speed thread. I concede it may h

[filmscanners] Re: Polaroid SS4000, noise,and oversampling (was: VueScan 7.5 beta 8 Available)

2002-02-09 Thread Arthur Entlich
I think the issue is one of pragmatics. All CCD scanner have some noise in shadows. It appears though that some keep that noise near or below the black point, and therefore it becomes basically moot. Further still, in isn't as if multipass scanning is "free". It adds 2-3-4 or more times the amo

[filmscanners] Re: Polaroid SS4000, noise, and oversampling (was: VueScan 7.5 beta 8 Available)

2002-02-09 Thread
David ... >>You have to have noise to be able to reduce it. Noise or the lack of it is a >>function of hardware design and in some cases profiles. > Eric ... >Does a noiseless scanner exist? > >Why wouldn't oversampling and averaging help reduce hardware-caused noise? >Hardware problems can often

[filmscanners] Re: ADMIN: List charter alterations

2002-02-09 Thread Bob Frost
Congratulations Tony, As it is Saturday, I can report that I haven't laughed so much for a long while. Bob Frost - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Naturally I have received a complaint about my summary blockage of the Hard Disk Speed thread. I concede it may have been a m

[filmscanners] Re: Finally, I can talk about the SS4000+ (LONG)

2002-02-09 Thread Arthur Entlich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Did you do any direct comparisons between the SS4000+ and the Dual II > on this? I've found ICE very useful on damaged film (and to reduce > the need for dust spotting) so I'd be hesitant to move to a scanner > without it, unless the starting point is th

[filmscanners] Vuescan7.5(Mac/Default folder)

2002-02-09 Thread Larry Dodge
I have not been able to get Vuescan 7.5 to scan from disk using a default folder setting. If I leave the raw file in the save folder as Vuescan and do not reset the default folder location it works fine. I have had this problem with several of the beta version. I discovered with beta-10 if I le

[filmscanners] Re: JPEG Lossless mirror?

2002-02-09 Thread Robert Meier
--- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe you are not correct, here. I have read in several accounts, > both > from people who have tried this experimentally and from people who > understand the theory of JPEG compression Well, then it's probably because these people don't know how to do an ex

[filmscanners] Re: OS and Color Management

2002-02-09 Thread
Are there any significant differences in the way that Windows Me handles color management as compared to Windows 2000 or XP? Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscri

[filmscanners] Re: ADMIN: List charter alterations

2002-02-09 Thread ThomasH
Dana Trout wrote: > > Tony, I burst out laughing when I got to > > (5)Sunday ... > It won't matter because generally I'll have the server in bits, > fitting a new hard drive. Don't ask > what sort, it's not Wednesday. Well, he is trying to bring some convenience to the users, but I doubt that thi

[filmscanners] ADMIN: List charter alterations

2002-02-09 Thread Christopher L. Grams
Tony, One of the roads to Olympic events in the Salt Lake City area was once treated in a similar manner when it came to parking to view the scenery. Different days meant parking on different sides depending on the hour of day, etc. First, nobody had time to read the sign as they drove by becaus

[filmscanners] Re: Caution: Irony virus alert! (was ADMIN:List charter alterations)

2002-02-09 Thread JimD
At 04:09 PM 2/9/02 +1000, Peter Marquis-Kyle wrote: >Watch out, I think Tony's caught it... Caught it and mastered it, I'd say. -JimD Now please get back to beating SCSI vs IDE to death. I mean, we need definitive answers - scanning be damned! --

[filmscanners] Re: ADMIN: List charter alterations

2002-02-09 Thread
How are you going to decide which day it is ? When it's late Wednesday in the western US it's already Thursday in these more civilised (?) parts of the world. :-) Peter, Nr Clonakilty, Co Cork, Ireland Unsub

[filmscanners] RE: ADMIN: List charter alterations

2002-02-09 Thread Bernie Kubiak
Are comments about the proposed charter list alterations accepted only on Sundays? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 10:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] ADMIN: List charte

[filmscanners] RE: ADMIN: List charter alterations

2002-02-09 Thread Austin Franklin
My interpretation is that Saturday is also OK too. Oh, and no need to clip anything, after all, it IS Saturday ;-) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bernie Kubiak > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 3:24 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > S

[filmscanners] Re: Polaroid SS4000, noise, andoversampling (was: VueScan 7.5 beta 8 Available)

2002-02-09 Thread Mark T.
Steve wrote: >Eric ... >>Does a noiseless scanner exist? >> >>Why wouldn't oversampling and averaging help reduce hardware-caused noise? >>Hardware problems can often be somewhat fixed in software, after all. >>Eric > >I'm surprised anyone is even arguing about this. There's no argument, it's jus

[filmscanners] Minolta Dimage Elite II

2002-02-09 Thread Tomek Zakrzewski
Hi list, Are there any people with experience on Minolta Dimage Scan Eilte II? I wasn't able to find any online review of this scanner. Regards Tomek Zakrzewski Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], wit

[filmscanners] Re: Minolta Dimage Elite II

2002-02-09 Thread Ralf Schmode
Tomek Zakrzewski schrieb: > Hi list, > Are there any people with experience on Minolta Dimage Scan Eilte II? I > wasn't able to find any online review of this scanner. Hi, Tomek, yes, me. I had to return *two* units due to intolerable shadow banding (see http://schmode.net/banding.jpg and http:

[filmscanners] OT - Identifying Kchrome 25 v 64

2002-02-09 Thread Mark T.
Without removing the film from the mount, is there any simple way to identify a K25 from a K64? I guess I could project them right up and compare grain, but I'm not sure even that will tell me.. The ones I wish to identify are cardboard mounted, processed in Australia (Melbourne I think), and

[filmscanners] Re: Vuescan7.5(Mac/Default folder)

2002-02-09 Thread Arthur Entlich
I think this is a problem with the Win versions as well. I was unable to get it to "scan from disk" either on the newer beta versions of ver 7.5 I had to use an earlier version (7.3, I think) to get the disk as source to work. Art Larry Dodge wrote: > I have not been able to get Vuescan 7.5

[filmscanners] Re: ADMIN: List charter alterations

2002-02-09 Thread Op's
> > (5)Sunday ... > It won't matter because generally I'll have the server in bits, > fitting a new hard drive. Don't ask > what sort, it's not Wednesday. > What sort of Hard Drive are you fitting? : ) rob

[filmscanners] ADMIN: List charter alterations

2002-02-09 Thread Li Xia and Dale Weedman
Ah! But when it's Sunday there ... it's Monday here. Dale W Canberra, Australia Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate

[filmscanners] Re: Minolta Dimage Elite II

2002-02-09 Thread Arthur Entlich
You might wish to address Al Bond about this. He has one. He can be reached at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] he also subscribes here. Art Tomek Zakrzewski wrote: > Hi list, > Are there any people with experience on Minolta Dimage Scan Eilte II? I > wasn't able to find any online review of this scanner.

[filmscanners] Re: OT - Identifying Kchrome 25 v 64

2002-02-09 Thread Arthur Entlich
I don't know of any way to determine the film type without looking at the film edge. The code indicates the slide was processed in April of 1980, using mounting machine or processing line 4 in Melbourne (M). My slides were mainly process is Vancouver (V) and Toronto (T) Canada, some in Fairlawn