[filmscanners] RE: 8 bit versus 16

2003-09-22 Thread Paul D. DeRocco
> From: Preston Earle > > I don't believe I'm confusing bit depth and resolution, I'm probably > just not explaining myself very well. I'm trying to say that if a > scanner can't (or at least "doesn't") scan adjacent pixels of uniform > color as identical values in 8-bit precision, it doesn't matte

[filmscanners] Re: 8 bit versus 16

2003-09-22 Thread Roy Harrington
On Monday, September 22, 2003, at 06:09 PM, Brad Davis wrote: > On 22/9/03 16:44, "Roy Harrington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Brad, >> >> You are probably right that -- "This conversation is only about bit >> depth." >> >> But I think that is one of the main shortcomings of the discus

[filmscanners] Re: Was: Canon A70 Now: OT requests

2003-09-22 Thread Austin Smith
Is there any possibility that we can drop the whole subject? I think that we've done 8 vs. 16 bit absolutely to death Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubsc

[filmscanners] Re: Was: Canon A70 Now: OT requests

2003-09-22 Thread Brad Davis
Art, A suggestion - do what you want here, if the chorus complaining gets too loud, then consider changing - but even then you don't necessarily have to, just that feedback is sometimes useful. The only situation where you absolutely must change is if Tony says to do it differently - then, beca

[filmscanners] Re: 8 bit versus 16

2003-09-22 Thread Preston Earle
"Brad Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "This is why I think you may be confusing DPI with bit depth, this comment (above) refers to spatial resolution, not intensity resolution. In this issue, (8 bit vs. 16 bit) the same number of pixels exist in either case, in an 8 bit file, they may differ by

[filmscanners] Re: Was: Canon A70 Now: OT requests

2003-09-22 Thread Arthur Entlich
Sorry if this additional public reply further irritates some. It is rather obvious that there are several philosophies about internet lists at play here, and each have their valid points. Many active members of lists I have been on are strong believers in the idea of an internet list being a com

[filmscanners] Re: 8 bit versus 16

2003-09-22 Thread Brad Davis
On 22/9/03 16:44, "Roy Harrington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Monday, September 22, 2003, at 02:04 PM, Brad Davis wrote: > >> On 22/9/03 12:09, "Preston Earle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> ... >>> >>> 2. All visible files are the product of a final >>> resize/pixel-combination >>> of some

[filmscanners] Re: 8 bit versus 16

2003-09-22 Thread Roy Harrington
On Monday, September 22, 2003, at 02:04 PM, Brad Davis wrote: > On 22/9/03 12:09, "Preston Earle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... >> >> 2. All visible files are the product of a final >> resize/pixel-combination >> of some sort, at least until we get 2800x4200 or larger video screens. > > I don

[filmscanners] Re: 8 bit versus 16

2003-09-22 Thread Brad Davis
On 22/9/03 12:09, "Preston Earle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been thinking more about this 8-bit vs. 16-bit question, and one > thing puzzles me and has generally been ignored in this discussion. > Someone (Arthur, Austin, Laurie, ) brought up the question of > "noise" in image data, bu

[filmscanners] RE: 8 bit versus 16

2003-09-22 Thread Paul D. DeRocco
> From: Preston Earle > > I've been thinking more about this 8-bit vs. 16-bit question, and one > thing puzzles me and has generally been ignored in this discussion. > Someone (Arthur, Austin, Laurie, ) brought up the question of > "noise" in image data, but that issue has been bypassed in thes

[filmscanners] Re: 8 bit versus 16

2003-09-22 Thread Preston Earle
I've been thinking more about this 8-bit vs. 16-bit question, and one thing puzzles me and has generally been ignored in this discussion. Someone (Arthur, Austin, Laurie, ) brought up the question of "noise" in image data, but that issue has been bypassed in these discussions in favor of other

[filmscanners] Re: Hi bit discussion

2003-09-22 Thread
Another, if convoluted, way to dodge-burn with16-bit tonality and with great control is to duplicate your document, make the move you want on the dupe (which is still 16-bit), then convert both dupe and original to 8-bit, and bring the altered dupe in as a separate layer. Add a layer mask, inita

[filmscanners] Re: Canon A70

2003-09-22 Thread
> There are a number of semi-valid reasons that a posting of this nature > (regarding digital cameras) show up in this list. Yes, and they are only semi-valid. As I said, there are far better lists for digi-cams where the questioner will get a far wider range of reliable answers. There's enough

[filmscanners] RE: Hi bit discussion

2003-09-22 Thread Paul D. DeRocco
> From: Bob Frost > > Try using curves to limit the lightening/darkening to what part > of the scale > you want, and then use History brush to paint it in to where you want. Good point. Thanks. -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paulmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -

[filmscanners] Re: A moribund list

2003-09-22 Thread Arthur Entlich
You won't be sadly missed. Art Frank Paris wrote: > Lauri, you're doing exactly what this guy objected to, nit-picking to > death every little thing he says. Why can't you just let it go? A person > can't say a fricken' thing on this list without being chased to the > hills in nit-picking. This

[filmscanners] RE: tantrums

2003-09-22 Thread Alessandro Pardi
I fully agree. Tony, can you do or say anything about that? I'm really starting to consider quitting, and that would be a pity, but I don't think I could stand another 100 messages thread like the recent 8 vs. 16 bit... Alessandro Pardi > -Original Message- > From: Ellis Vener [mailto:[

[filmscanners] Re: [filmscanners_Digest] hi bit

2003-09-22 Thread Andreas Siegert
Hi Tom, >>Why are high bit worksflows harder and take more time? Because of the >>Photoshop limitations? Wouldn't a 16bit clean program relieve you of these >>hassles? > > Hello afx, I think the slowness is primarily due to the glacial speed that > the scanner transfers data to the computer. Somet

[filmscanners] Re: 8 bit versus 16

2003-09-22 Thread Arthur Entlich
LAURIE SOLOMON wrote: > > Now that both Johnny Cash and Shel Sivlerstein are dead; there is no longer > a boy named "Sue" so I guess a boy named "Laurie" will have to do. :-) > I suspect a "Boy Named Sue" may indeed live on long after the lives of these two. Not either of their greatest mome

[filmscanners] Re: Canon A70

2003-09-22 Thread Arthur Entlich
There are a number of semi-valid reasons that a posting of this nature (regarding digital cameras) show up in this list. 1) The person is a regular reader of this list, and knows that other readers or participants here have use of or are knowledgeable in this area, or he respects the opinions of p

[filmscanners] Re: Hi bit discussion

2003-09-22 Thread Bob Frost
Paul, Try using curves to limit the lightening/darkening to what part of the scale you want, and then use History brush to paint it in to where you want. Bob Frost. - Original Message - From: "Paul D. DeRocco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Don't you miss the ability to limit the dodging/burning t