[filmscanners] RE: JPEG Lossless mirror?

2002-02-11 Thread Mark Otway
FWIW the following is from http://www.jpg.com/products/wizard.html It implies that normally you would introduce artifacts when doing a mirror and re-saving, but I think is claiming that with this technology you won't degrade the image at all. Yes, this is what the jpegtran command-line

[filmscanners] Re: JPEG Lossless mirror?

2002-02-10 Thread Julian Robinson
FWIW the following is from http://www.jpg.com/products/wizard.html It implies that normally you would introduce artifacts when doing a mirror and re-saving, but I think is claiming that with this technology you won't degrade the image at all. My guess is that it does have to clip to nearest 8

[filmscanners] Re: JPEG Lossless mirror?

2002-02-09 Thread Robert Meier
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re-encoding *unchanged* data at the same compression setting gives no additional loss. It does give an additional loss. Nevertheless, the additional loss is very small, much smaller then what you lose when you store a tiff image with the highest jpeg quality in

[filmscanners] RE: JPEG Lossless mirror?

2002-02-09 Thread
.) - David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Meier Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 9:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] Re: JPEG Lossless mirror? --- Pat Cullinan, jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had been a believer

[filmscanners] Re: JPEG Lossless mirror?

2002-02-09 Thread Pat Cullinan, jr.
Robert Meier wrote: --- Pat Cullinan, jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had been a believer in the proposition that multiple jpeg saves would degrade an image, but after reading a notice to the contrary in one of the trade mags, I did my own trials and now I save and resave jpegs which

[filmscanners] Re: JPEG Lossless mirror?

2002-02-09 Thread Robert Meier
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe you are not correct, here. I have read in several accounts, both from people who have tried this experimentally and from people who understand the theory of JPEG compression Well, then it's probably because these people don't know how to do an

[filmscanners] RE: JPEG Lossless mirror?

2002-02-08 Thread Mark Otway
Just to follow this post up, I've found that the Independent JPEG Group have developed a utility called 'jpegtran' which performs lossless transformations on JPEG images. This webpage: http://sylvana.net/jpegcrop/losslessapps.html contains a very long list of the various apps which support

[filmscanners] Re: JPEG Lossless mirror?

2002-02-08 Thread Pat Cullinan, jr.
Mark Otway wrote: This isn't so, Mark. While you're editing an image is PS, no jpeg processing is performed. Your'e perfectly safe. The jpeg processing occurs only when you save the image to a jpg file, and even then virtually no further degradation takes place, believe it or not

[filmscanners] Re: JPEG Lossless mirror?

2002-02-08 Thread TonySleep
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 08:54:22 - Mark Otway ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I know the encoding only takes place when the image is saved in PS (as opposed to when it's manipulated). But since the act of re-encoding results in some data loss, if I can perform these simple tranformations (flip)

[filmscanners] Re: JPEG Lossless mirror?

2002-02-08 Thread Robert Meier
--- Pat Cullinan, jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had been a believer in the proposition that multiple jpeg saves would degrade an image, but after reading a notice to the contrary in one of the trade mags, I did my own trials and now I save and resave jpegs which aren't even maximum