Re: filmscanners: Color saturation with Vuescan

2001-03-26 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.
I think what the low-budget photo printers must do is set the black and white points of the image well inside their normal settings, losing detail in highlights and shadows. The best I could recommend is a lot of sweat continuing to practice working with levels and curves in Photoshop. Maris --

Re: filmscanners: Color saturation with Vuescan

2001-03-26 Thread Jim Sharp
Maris Agreed on the budget printers. Blown out highlights and no shadow detail. Still, even comparing my scans to good quality digital cameras like the Nikon 990 leaves me dissapointed when viewing them on screen. My scans are sharper, which is not surprising given the resolution difference,

Re: filmscanners: Color saturation with Vuescan

2001-03-26 Thread Robert E. Wright
You might be interested in downloading the following PDF file, http://www.ledet.com/margulis/PP6_Chapter2.pdf Hope it helps, Bob Wright - Original Message - From: Jim Sharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 6:12 AM Subject: filmscanners: Color sat

Re: filmscanners: Color saturation with Vuescan

2001-03-26 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.
particulars (it may take a couple of days - I have my regular employment to attend to). Maris - Original Message - From: "Jim Sharp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 2:20 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: Color saturation with

Re: filmscanners: Color saturation with Vuescan

2001-03-26 Thread Michael Moore
Jim: I have a Minolta Scan Elite which I use for scanning color negs... I don't use VueScan, just the Minolta software, but the way I take my scans into PShop is the key to my success... I had the same problem with apparently flat scans as well, until I started to scan the neg directly into PShop

Re: filmscanners: Color saturation with Vuescan

2001-03-27 Thread Jim Sharp
Thanks to everyone who replied to this! I downloaded the Margulis .pdf files suggested and will study them closely. I'm hoping that will help. I also intent to try a few of the adjustments in Vuescan that I've yet to experiment with. I'll let you all know how I fare... -- Jim

Re: filmscanners: Color saturation with Vuescan

2001-03-27 Thread Jim Sharp
Michael I will try this and see how it works for me. Is it much of a problem getting rid of the orange mask from the negative? It also appears I need to buy some books... -- Jim Michael Moore wrote: > > Jim: I have a Minolta Scan Elite which I use for scanning color negs... I > don't use Vue

Re: filmscanners: Color saturation with Vuescan

2001-03-27 Thread Michael Moore
I have had no problem with the orange mask... I guess either the minolta software strips it it when making the scan (as a 16 bit linear negative scan) or PShop does it on invert... Mike M. Jim Sharp wrote: > Michael > > I will try this and see how it works for me. Is it much of a problem > gett

Re: filmscanners: Color saturation with Vuescan

2001-03-27 Thread Jon
Well, Margulis is a can of worms, in my opinion, unless you have a CMYK workflow. One thing that might help is to set your output to sRGB in Vuescan. sRGB seems to give more saturated image than AdobeRGB when scanning with Vuescan, although I don't know why. Also make sure your scanner is warmed u

Re: filmscanners: Color saturation with Vuescan

2001-03-28 Thread Tony Sleep
On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:31:32 -0800 (PST) Jon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > sRGB seems to give more saturated image than AdobeRGB when > scanning with Vuescan, although I don't know why. I believe Vuescan probably still only really works to sRGB internally, so when you select a wider output spa

RE: filmscanners: Color saturation with Vuescan

2001-03-28 Thread shAf
Tony writes ... > On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:31:32 -0800 (PST) Jon > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > sRGB seems to give more saturated image than AdobeRGB > > when scanning with Vuescan, although I don't know why. > > I believe Vuescan probably still only really works to > sRGB internally, so whe

RE: filmscanners: Color saturation with Vuescan

2001-03-28 Thread Tony Sleep
On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:30:29 -0800 shAf ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > If you scan into a variety of color spaces, and > view them all with PS6, they should all appear the same (PS6 being the > necessary software, you cannot do all co-existingly with PS5). The corollary of which is that, scanned

RE: filmscanners: Color saturation with Vuescan

2001-03-28 Thread Jon
--- shAf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tony writes ... > > > On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:31:32 -0800 (PST) Jon > > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > > sRGB seems to give more saturated image than AdobeRGB > > > when scanning with Vuescan, although I don't know why. > > > > I believe Vuescan prob

Re: filmscanners: Color saturation with Vuescan

2001-03-28 Thread Jim Sharp
Jon I have been scanning into sRGB. I'll be using these scans on the web ultimately so I assumed that was the way to go. I also leave the scanner on all the time so the warmup thing is not an issue. I haven't looked over Margulis much yet, or had time to try any of the suggestions people on the

Re: filmscanners: Color saturation with Vuescan

2001-03-29 Thread Rob Geraghty
"Jim Sharp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been scanning into sRGB. I'll be using these scans on the web > ultimately so I assumed that was the way to go. I also leave the scanner > on all the time so the warmup thing is not an issue. What resolution will you be using on the net? If it's no

Re: filmscanners: Color saturation with Vuescan

2001-03-29 Thread Jon
Jim, I noticed I get "better looking" results scanning my Kodak Supra 400 with Generic Neg setting. Info posted on another thread indicates that Vuescan attempts to make all neg films "accurate" to a Kodak target, which seems to me would make all different types of neg film look alike. So, you mig

Re: filmscanners: Color saturation with Vuescan

2001-03-29 Thread Jim Sharp
Jon - Thanks It's one more thing I'll try... This stuff has about *a million* degrees of freedom, and in the end, I'm still working with something that's subjective. I'm afraid I may have been a bit too lazy so far. It's not going to work though - the canned solution isn't going to satisfy m

Re: filmscanners: Color saturation with Vuescan

2001-03-29 Thread Lynn Allen
Jon wrote: >Jim, I noticed I get "better looking" results scanning my Kodak Supra 400 with Generic Neg setting. Info posted on another thread indicates that Vuescan attempts to make all neg films "accurate" to a Kodak target, which seems to me would make all different types of neg film look alike

Re: filmscanners: Color saturation with Vuescan

2001-03-30 Thread Tony Sleep
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:54:15 -0800 (PST) Jon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Jim, I noticed I get "better looking" results scanning my Kodak Supra > 400 with Generic Neg setting. Info posted on another thread indicates > that Vuescan attempts to make all neg films "accurate" to a Kodak > target, wh