Re: filmscanners: This Gamma Thing...?

2001-02-06 Thread Tony Sleep
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:45:18 -0800 shAf ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > My summary would be ... if you want a more predictable editing > space, you should use gamma=2.2, but if your scans tend to go straight > from scanner to your printer with minor adjustments, then gamma=1.8 > cannot be a wrong c

Re: filmscanners: This Gamma Thing...?

2001-02-05 Thread shAf
Stephen writes ... > Tony, for us users of Vuescan on a Mac scanning for output to an Epson > Printer, would 1.8 be good gamma starting point? Vuescan defaults to 2.2, > I'm guessing because most users are on Windows. > ... A 2.2 gamma space has only two things going for it (... 3 if you cr

Re: filmscanners: This Gamma Thing...?

2001-02-05 Thread Stephen Jennings
Tony, for us users of Vuescan on a Mac scanning for output to an Epson Printer, would 1.8 be good gamma starting point? Vuescan defaults to 2.2, I'm guessing because most users are on Windows. STEPHENJENNINGS P h o t o g r a p h e r Cambridge, MA [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To be more pr

RE: filmscanners: This Gamma Thing...?

2001-02-03 Thread Tony Sleep
On Fri, 02 Feb 2001 22:16:33 -0800 Tom Christiansen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Thanks for the explanation. Now I just need to get some kind of idea of a > good value for gamma. Windows defaults to 2.2. My scanner software defaults > to 1.4. If I change the scanner software to gamma=2.2 imag

Re: filmscanners: This Gamma thing version 2.0

2001-02-03 Thread IronWorks
- From: "shAf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 11:56 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: This Gamma thing version 2.0 | Tom writes ... | | > Here I am. Spending hours trying to get the gamma just right so that | all my | > pic

Re: filmscanners: This Gamma thing version 2.0

2001-02-03 Thread shAf
Tom writes ... > Here I am. Spending hours trying to get the gamma just right so that all my > pictures will look great on any platform. And then I hit the print > button... Then what?? > > > In short: How does the gamma setting affect the output when the image is > printed out on paper? Should I

Re: filmscanners: This Gamma Thing...?

2001-02-03 Thread Alan Tyson
- Original Message - From: IronWorks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 7:56 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: This Gamma Thing...? > In line with shAF's white and black point setting suggestion, there is an > excellent site at

RE: filmscanners: This Gamma thing version 2.0

2001-02-03 Thread Frank Paris
I used ColorCal's Profiler RGB in manual mode to create a profile that creates printed images that match my monitor as closely as possible, even though my monitor is calibrated for the WEB (6500 degrees). It took a whole day, but I've gotten good results now for a couple months. Anyhow, with this

RE: filmscanners: This Gamma Thing...?

2001-02-03 Thread Austin Franklin
Thanks for all the great links that have been posted in association with this thread!

Re: filmscanners: This Gamma Thing...?

2001-02-03 Thread Theo Heindl
Hello all I have been lurking for a while now but be very interested in the technical aspects of scanning. With the help of on of the URLs given I found this article which is written in a way where even I understand it (which means everyone else will

Re: filmscanners: This Gamma thing version 2.0

2001-02-03 Thread Rob Geraghty
"Tom Christiansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In short: How does the gamma setting affect the output when the image is > printed out on paper? Should I have two different files: One with gamma=1 > for printing, and one with gamma=2.2 for web publishing? Best to ask this on the Epson inkjet list

Re: filmscanners: This Gamma Thing...?

2001-02-03 Thread IronWorks
point settings at http://www.aim-dtp.net/aim/calibration/blackpoint/crt_brightness_and_contras t.htm Maris - Original Message - From: "shAf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 12:48 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: This Gam

Re: filmscanners: This Gamma Thing...?

2001-02-03 Thread IronWorks
l Message - From: "Frank Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 12:42 AM Subject: RE: filmscanners: This Gamma Thing...? | I know you've got a smily face, but he was asking for a technical answer, | and if you think car

Re: filmscanners: This Gamma Thing...?

2001-02-03 Thread shAf
Tom writes ... > Thanks for the explanation. Now I just need to get some kind of idea of a > good value for gamma. Windows defaults to 2.2. My scanner software defaults > to 1.4. If I change the scanner software to gamma=2.2 images look WAY too > bright... Why the difference? We need to be a

Re: filmscanners: This Gamma Thing...?

2001-02-03 Thread shAf
Tom writes ... > ... > It's something with the way monitors show images, but what exactly is it?? > I notice that my scanner software has a gamma adjustment and playing with > it I noticed that it changes the way the image appear on the screen. More than monitors, most devices have a specifi

RE: filmscanners: This Gamma Thing...?

2001-02-03 Thread Laurie Solomon
I will take a shot at responding; but there are others on this list who can probably give a much better answer to your question. Generally speaking Gamma represents the midtone setting. In digital cameras it represents the white light setting ( sort of like a light meters 18% gray reference poin

RE: filmscanners: This Gamma Thing...?

2001-02-02 Thread Frank Paris
, 2001 8:24 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: filmscanners: This Gamma Thing...? > > > >From: "Frank Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Here is Giorgianni and Madden's definition from "Digital Color > Management": > >"Exp

RE: filmscanners: This Gamma Thing...?

2001-02-02 Thread Tom Christiansen
Hi Henry, >>Here is Giorgianni and Madden's definition from "Digital Color Management": >>"Exponent of a power-law equation relating CRT luminance to control-signal >>voltage". Also, "The slope of the straight-line portion of a CRT >>characteristic curve relating log luminance to log voltage." An

RE: filmscanners: This Gamma Thing...?

2001-02-02 Thread Tom Christiansen
Hi, >Here is Giorgianni and Madden's definition from "Digital Color Management": >"Exponent of a power-law equation relating CRT luminance to control-signal >voltage". OK. I thought the relationship between luminance and control voltage was linear. But I guess that if it was linear the viewer w

RE: filmscanners: This Gamma Thing...?

2001-02-02 Thread Henry Richardson
>From: "Frank Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Here is Giorgianni and Madden's definition from "Digital Color Management": >"Exponent of a power-law equation relating CRT luminance to control-signal >voltage". Also, "The slope of the straight-line portion of a CRT >characteristic curve relating log l

Re: filmscanners: This Gamma Thing...?

2001-02-02 Thread IronWorks
Start reading here: CGSD - Gamma Correction Home Page: http://www.cgsd.com/papers/gamma.html and read on. All the facts you want and then some. Maris - Original Message - From: "Tom Christiansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 9:07 PM Subjec

RE: filmscanners: This Gamma Thing...?

2001-02-02 Thread Frank Paris
Here is Giorgianni and Madden's definition from "Digital Color Management": "Exponent of a power-law equation relating CRT luminance to control-signal voltage". Also, "The slope of the straight-line portion of a CRT characteristic curve relating log luminance to log voltage." Anyhow, that's why if