Re: filmscanners: dither vs haltoning (was File sizes, file formats, etc. for printing 8.5 x 11and 13 x 17...

2001-02-27 Thread shAf
Austin writes ... > > I consider "dither" as the general term, which includes > > "halftone". "Halftone" would seem best applied to traditional > > methods, and not include some of the newer techniques ... e.g., > > "random" or "stoichastic" dithering ... but that may be just me :o) > > > >

RE: filmscanners: dither vs haltoning (was File sizes, file formats, etc. for printing 8.5 x 11and 13 x 17...

2001-02-27 Thread Austin Franklin
> "Halftoning" really has nothing to do with digital imaging ... I completely disagree. Halftone is a process, and is implementation independent. > But in the context of consumer, and pro-sumer inkjet > printing, halftoning is not the process used, rather a mixture of > finer dots ... dots

RE: filmscanners: dither vs haltoning (was File sizes, file formats, etc. for printing 8.5 x 11and 13 x 17...

2001-02-27 Thread Austin Franklin
FYI, check these books out: Digital Color Halftoning (Spie/IEEE Series) by Henry R. Kang Editorial Reviews Book News, Inc. Aimed primarily at technical professionals in the field of digital color imaging, the book explains the halftone process and how to design halftone screens and screenless pr

Re: filmscanners: dither vs haltoning (was File sizes, file formats, etc. for printing 8.5 x 11and 13 x 17...

2001-02-27 Thread shAf
Austin writes ... > > "Halftoning" really has nothing to do with digital imaging ... > > I completely disagree. Halftone is a process, and is implementation > independent. > ... I only separate "halftoning" and "dithering" chronologically (traditionally), as in "halftone" is the origina

Re: filmscanners: dither vs haltoning (was File sizes, file formats, etc. for printing 8.5 x 11and 13 x 17...

2001-02-28 Thread Mike Kersenbrock
shAf wrote: > > Austin writes ... > > > > "Halftoning" really has nothing to do with digital imaging ... > > > > I completely disagree. Halftone is a process, and is implementation > > independent. > > ... > > I only separate "halftoning" and "dithering" chronologically > (traditionall

RE: filmscanners: dither vs haltoning (was File sizes, file formats, etc. for printing 8.5 x 11and 13 x 17...

2001-02-28 Thread Eli Bowen
Georges Seurat was the painter. -Original Message- From: Mike Kersenbrock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 11:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: dither vs haltoning (was File sizes, file formats, etc. for printing 8.5 x 11and 13 x 17

Re: filmscanners: dither vs haltoning (was File sizes, file formats, etc. for printing 8.5 x 11and 13 x 17...

2001-02-28 Thread Rob Geraghty
"Austin Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Both my Epson printers (3000 and 1160) have a 'halftone' setting, as well as > my QMS laser printer...so both of them certainly believe they are > 'halftoning'. Does anyone actually use the "halftone" settings on their Epson? Rob

Re: filmscanners: dither vs haltoning (was File sizes, file formats, etc. for printing 8.5 x 11and 13 x 17...

2001-02-28 Thread Barbara Abel
The Epson Photo EX offers the following Halftoning options: No Halftoning ( For black text only) Error Diffusion (For photographic images. Blends each dot of color with the surrounding dots.) Fine Dithering (For charts, graphs, and other images that require precise, solid areas of bri

RE: filmscanners: dither vs haltoning (was File sizes, file formats, etc. for printing 8.5 x 11and 13 x 17...

2001-02-28 Thread Austin Franklin
If you are printing color or grayscale images, it has to use it. Whether you directly select the method of halftoning (advanced) or use one of its built-in profiles (automatic or photoenhance) it still has to use the halftone process. > "Austin Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Both my Ep

RE: filmscanners: dither vs haltoning (was File sizes, file formats, etc. for printing 8.5 x 11and 13 x 17...

2001-02-28 Thread Austin Franklin
> > > "Halftoning" really has nothing to do with digital imaging ... > > > > I completely disagree. Halftone is a process, and is implementation > > independent. > > ... > > I only separate "halftoning" and "dithering" chronologically > (traditionally), as in "halftone" is the original a

RE: filmscanners: dither vs haltoning (was File sizes, file formats, etc. for printing 8.5 x 11and 13 x 17...

2001-02-28 Thread Frank Paris
--Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Kersenbrock > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 11:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: filmscanners: dither vs haltoning (was File sizes, file > formats, etc. for printing 8.5 x 11and 1

RE: filmscanners: dither vs haltoning (was File sizes, file formats, etc. for printing 8.5 x 11and 13 x 17...

2001-02-28 Thread Laurie Solomon
ECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frank Paris Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 9:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: filmscanners: dither vs haltoning (was File sizes, file formats, etc. for printing 8.5 x 11and 13 x 17... You're speaking of "La Grande Jatte" by G

RE: filmscanners: dither vs haltoning (was File sizes, file formats, etc. for printing 8.5 x 11and 13 x 17...

2001-02-28 Thread Laurie Solomon
, 2001 8:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: filmscanners: dither vs haltoning (was File sizes, file formats, etc. for printing 8.5 x 11and 13 x 17... > > > "Halftoning" really has nothing to do with digital imaging ... > > > > I completely disag

Re: filmscanners: dither vs haltoning (was File sizes, file formats, etc. for printing 8.5 x 11and 13 x 17...

2001-02-28 Thread Arthur Entlich
Austin Franklin wrote: > I do find > it fascinating that some people have adopted a, in my book, 'new' term for > 'this'. Kind of like changing the word CPU... I'm unfamiliar with the "word" CPU... It isn't in my dictionary either. There is a C.P.U., an acronym for a central processing unit

RE: filmscanners: dither vs haltoning (was File sizes, file formats, etc. for printing 8.5 x 11and 13 x 17...

2001-02-28 Thread Rob Geraghty
Frank wrote: > You're speaking of "La Grande Jatte" by Georges Pierre Seurat. It's > in the museum of art in Chicago It's been so long ago that I forget > the name of this famous museum, but it has one of the greatest > collections of Impressionist art in the world. It's the Chicago Art Institute

Re: filmscanners: dither vs haltoning (was File sizes, file formats, etc. for printing 8.5 x 11and 13 x 17...

2001-02-28 Thread Arthur Entlich
Laurie Solomon wrote: > Frank, > Try The Chicago Art Museum or Chicago Museum of Art. :-) > > The artwork you speak of is truly amazing as are most of Seurat's other > works. This same painting, I believe, was also utilized as the backdrop and > the basis for a play on Seurat. > I too have

Re: filmscanners: dither vs haltoning (was File sizes, file formats, etc. for printing 8.5 x 11and 13 x 17...

2001-02-28 Thread Rob Geraghty
Barbara wrote: >The Epson Photo EX offers the following Halftoning options: > No Halftoning ( For black text only) > Error Diffusion (For photographic images. > Fine Dithering I think this is the source of the argument (maybe I'm stating the obvious here); Epson or other printer dithering or e

RE: filmscanners: dither vs haltoning (was File sizes, file formats, etc. for printing 8.5 x 11and 13 x 17...

2001-02-28 Thread Frank Paris
: Re: filmscanners: dither vs haltoning (was File sizes, file > formats, etc. for printing 8.5 x 11and 13 x 17... > > > > > Austin Franklin wrote: > > > I do find > > it fascinating that some people have adopted a, in my book, > 'new' term

RE: filmscanners: dither vs haltoning (was File sizes, file formats, etc. for printing 8.5 x 11and 13 x 17...

2001-02-28 Thread Austin Franklin
> I find technical jargon, especially > in this kind of mixed audience does more to alienate that to further > enlighten. It is also a form of elitism, that really rubs me the > wrong way. Well, in this case, it isn't about 'jargon' or 'semantics' it is about, in my opinion, two completely diffe