filmscanners: which space?

2001-05-20 Thread PAUL GRAHAM
Hi, on a steep learning curve here with scanning and PS6 still a bit befuddled by all the colour management issues.. when I get raw scans from a scanner.. eg Nikon 4000, they don't come in any 'space', right? so should I assign (convert) them to a particular one? isn't that wacking the data right

Re: filmscanners: which space?

2001-05-20 Thread shAf
pg writes ... > ... > when I get raw scans from a scanner.. eg Nikon 4000, > they don't come in any 'space', right? Yes & no ... there is no color space embedded, but every bitmap of RGB values belong to a color space ... you only need figure out which one. > so should I assign (convert) th

Re: filmscanners: which space?

2001-05-20 Thread Douglas Landrum
ners@Halftone. Co. Uk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:09 AM Subject: filmscanners: which space? > Hi, on a steep learning curve here with scanning and PS6 > > still a bit befuddled by all the colour management issues.. > when I get raw scans from a scanner.. eg

Re: filmscanners: which space?

2001-05-21 Thread Lynn Allen
Hi, Paul-- Although I've read the manual and "Real World Adobe Photoshop," my monitor will not/does not adjust to the Adobe color spaces--or else I'm not dedicated enough to follow it out the window, as it were. Since I record to CD and don't do printouts regularly, sRGB works fine--until I *want

RE: filmscanners: which space?

2001-05-21 Thread shAf
Lynn writes ... > ... > I might be misinterpreting here, but I think > that outputting to inkjets, or any printing > medium, *is* CMYK. RGB and/or the various > color spaces are translated and then given > to the printer according to the ink colors > and abilities available, ... Correct.

Re: filmscanners: which space?

2001-05-21 Thread Robert E. Wright
p your desired working profile.) Bob Wright - Original Message - From: PAUL GRAHAM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Filmscanners@Halftone. Co. Uk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:09 AM Subject: filmscanners: which space? > Hi, on a steep learning curve here with scan

Re: filmscanners: which space?

2001-05-21 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.
n RGB. Maris - Original Message - From: "Lynn Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 10:20 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: which space? | Hi, Paul-- | | Although I've read the manual and "Real World Adobe Photoshop,"

Re: filmscanners: which space?

2001-05-21 Thread Arthur Entlich
Maris V. Lidaka, Sr. wrote: > If I'm not mistaken Bruce Fraser participates in the Epson Inkjets mailing > list. > > Inkjet printers of course print in CMYK but they insist on RGB input and > then perform the conversion themselves. So we correct in RGB or CMYK or > LAB, whatever fits the bill

Re: filmscanners: which space?

2001-05-21 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.
;Arthur Entlich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 4:50 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: which space? | | | Maris V. Lidaka, Sr. wrote: | | > If I'm not mistaken Bruce Fraser participates in the Epson Inkjets mailing | > list. | > | >

Re: filmscanners: which space?

2001-05-22 Thread Mark Ligtenberg
More specific: ICC Color Profiles for Scanners http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?[EMAIL PROTECTED]^1@.eeb2c3c Mark L From: "shAf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:53 PM > > I wish that Bruce Fraser would come in here > > and comment, because I th

Re: filmscanners: which space?

2001-05-23 Thread TREVITHO
In a message dated 22/5/01 3:05:24 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << We don't disagree - I work primarily in LAB and CMYK myself, for both web and print, but then convert to RGB for final contrast adjustments and to send to the printer. >> Dear Maris To the best of my knowledge RGB to CMYK i

Re: filmscanners: which space?

2001-05-26 Thread Karl Schulmeisters
into the gray-scale K, whereas in RGB, intensity is a function of the particulare RGB values. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 1:38 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: which space? > > In a message dated 22/5/01

Re: filmscanners: which space?

2001-05-26 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.
Which is fine by me - so long as RxGxBx look the same as Rx'Gx'Bx' my result will be what I want it to be. Maris - Original Message - From: "Karl Schulmeisters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 2:23 AM S

Re: filmscanners: which space?

2001-05-26 Thread Karl Schulmeisters
ay 26, 2001 11:58 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: which space? > Which is fine by me - so long as RxGxBx look the same as Rx'Gx'Bx' my result > will be what I want it to be. > > Maris > > - Original Message - > From: "Karl Schulmeisters" <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: filmscanners: which space?

2001-05-27 Thread TREVITHO
Dear Karl As CMYK is a much reduced colour space compared to RGB I would have thought that made it exactly the case. The true test would be to make multiple conversions from RGB to CMYK and back and see if quality suffered, which of course it does. The real test would be to make the convers

Re: filmscanners: which space?

2001-05-27 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.
Maris - Original Message - From: "Karl Schulmeisters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 3:51 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: which space? | The complexity comes in when you add translation into another device. | | Lets say your original RGB v

Re: filmscanners: which space?

2001-05-27 Thread Karl Schulmeisters
27, 2001 12:34 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: which space? > > > Dear Karl > > As CMYK is a much reduced colour space compared to RGB I would have thought > that made it exactly the case. The true test would be to make multiple > conversions from RGB to CMYK and back and see if

Re: filmscanners: which space?

2001-05-27 Thread Robert E. Wright
> CMYK is not a reduced color space compared to RGB. Printer CMYK is. But > that is because the color space of the inks is more reduced. OK. Are you suggesting that some sort of CMYK settings in Photoshop could make the CMYK mode's gamut more similar to RGB, and thus reduce the losses in RGB to

Re: filmscanners: which space?

2001-05-27 Thread Robert E. Wright
- Original Message - From: Karl Schulmeisters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 1:08 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: which space? > CMYK is not a reduced color space compared to RGB. Printer CMYK is. But > that is because the color

Re: filmscanners: which space?

2001-05-27 Thread Karl Schulmeisters
ay, May 27, 2001 6:55 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: which space? > > CMYK is not a reduced color space compared to RGB. Printer CMYK is. But > > that is because the color space of the inks is more reduced. > > OK. Are you suggesting that some sort of CMYK settings in Photoshop

Re: filmscanners: which space?

2001-05-27 Thread Karl Schulmeisters
ot;Karl Schulmeisters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 7:32 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: which space? > I'm not a photoshop expert. I do know a bit about the abstract math behind > the colorimetry. I don't see why you would not be

Re: filmscanners: which space?

2001-05-28 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.
"Karl Schulmeisters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 11:55 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: which space? | Consider this | | CMY are the complimentary colors of RGB. This means that according to color | theory, you can mix any color in

Re: filmscanners: which space?

2001-05-28 Thread Karl Schulmeisters
the printing press) methodology. > > Maris > > - Original Message - > From: "Karl Schulmeisters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 11:55 PM > Subject: Re: filmscanners: which space? > > > | Cons