Hi, on a steep learning curve here with scanning and PS6
still a bit befuddled by all the colour management issues..
when I get raw scans from a scanner.. eg Nikon 4000, they don't come in any
'space', right?
so should I assign (convert) them to a particular one? isn't that wacking
the data right
pg writes ...
> ...
> when I get raw scans from a scanner.. eg Nikon 4000,
> they don't come in any 'space', right?
Yes & no ... there is no color space embedded, but every bitmap of
RGB values belong to a color space ... you only need figure out which
one.
> so should I assign (convert) th
ners@Halftone. Co. Uk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:09 AM
Subject: filmscanners: which space?
> Hi, on a steep learning curve here with scanning and PS6
>
> still a bit befuddled by all the colour management issues..
> when I get raw scans from a scanner.. eg
Hi, Paul--
Although I've read the manual and "Real World Adobe Photoshop," my monitor
will not/does not adjust to the Adobe color spaces--or else I'm not
dedicated enough to follow it out the window, as it were. Since I record to
CD and don't do printouts regularly, sRGB works fine--until I *want
Lynn writes ...
> ...
> I might be misinterpreting here, but I think
> that outputting to inkjets, or any printing
> medium, *is* CMYK. RGB and/or the various
> color spaces are translated and then given
> to the printer according to the ink colors
> and abilities available, ...
Correct.
p your desired working
profile.)
Bob Wright
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From: PAUL GRAHAM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Filmscanners@Halftone. Co. Uk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:09 AM
Subject: filmscanners: which space?
> Hi, on a steep learning curve here with scan
n RGB.
Maris
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From: "Lynn Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: which space?
| Hi, Paul--
|
| Although I've read the manual and "Real World Adobe Photoshop,"
Maris V. Lidaka, Sr. wrote:
> If I'm not mistaken Bruce Fraser participates in the Epson Inkjets mailing
> list.
>
> Inkjet printers of course print in CMYK but they insist on RGB input and
> then perform the conversion themselves. So we correct in RGB or CMYK or
> LAB, whatever fits the bill
;Arthur Entlich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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|
|
| Maris V. Lidaka, Sr. wrote:
|
| > If I'm not mistaken Bruce Fraser participates in the Epson Inkjets
mailing
| > list.
| >
| >
More specific: ICC Color Profiles for Scanners
http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?[EMAIL PROTECTED]^1@.eeb2c3c
Mark L
From: "shAf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:53 PM
> > I wish that Bruce Fraser would come in here
> > and comment, because I th
In a message dated 22/5/01 3:05:24 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< We don't disagree - I work primarily in LAB and CMYK myself, for both web
and print, but then convert to RGB for final contrast adjustments and to
send to the printer. >>
Dear Maris
To the best of my knowledge RGB to CMYK i
into the gray-scale K,
whereas in RGB, intensity is a function of the particulare RGB values.
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>
> In a message dated 22/5/01
Which is fine by me - so long as RxGxBx look the same as Rx'Gx'Bx' my result
will be what I want it to be.
Maris
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ay 26, 2001 11:58 AM
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> Which is fine by me - so long as RxGxBx look the same as Rx'Gx'Bx' my
result
> will be what I want it to be.
>
> Maris
>
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> From: "Karl Schulmeisters" <[EMAIL PROTE
Dear Karl
As CMYK is a much reduced colour space compared to RGB I would have thought
that made it exactly the case. The true test would be to make multiple
conversions from RGB to CMYK and back and see if quality suffered, which of
course it does.
The real test would be to make the convers
Maris
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From: "Karl Schulmeisters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: which space?
| The complexity comes in when you add translation into another device.
|
| Lets say your original RGB v
27, 2001 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: which space?
>
>
> Dear Karl
>
> As CMYK is a much reduced colour space compared to RGB I would have
thought
> that made it exactly the case. The true test would be to make multiple
> conversions from RGB to CMYK and back and see if
> CMYK is not a reduced color space compared to RGB. Printer CMYK is. But
> that is because the color space of the inks is more reduced.
OK. Are you suggesting that some sort of CMYK settings in Photoshop could
make the CMYK mode's gamut more similar to RGB, and thus reduce the losses
in RGB to
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From: Karl Schulmeisters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 1:08 PM
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> CMYK is not a reduced color space compared to RGB. Printer CMYK is. But
> that is because the color
ay, May 27, 2001 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: which space?
> > CMYK is not a reduced color space compared to RGB. Printer CMYK is.
But
> > that is because the color space of the inks is more reduced.
>
> OK. Are you suggesting that some sort of CMYK settings in Photoshop
ot;Karl Schulmeisters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 7:32 PM
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> I'm not a photoshop expert. I do know a bit about the abstract math
behind
> the colorimetry. I don't see why you would not be
"Karl Schulmeisters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 11:55 PM
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| Consider this
|
| CMY are the complimentary colors of RGB. This means that according to
color
| theory, you can mix any color in
the printing press) methodology.
>
> Maris
>
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> From: "Karl Schulmeisters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 11:55 PM
> Subject: Re: filmscanners: which space?
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