Re: [Finale] Missing Graphics

2002-04-29 Thread Conrado del Rosario
Hello Philip, Hal, everyone, Thanks for your tips. The best solution I found was to choose the graphics folder as the default music folder in program options. Switching this on and off made the graphics disappear and reappear. Thanks again. Conrado > Hello Conrado, > > Put the graphics folde

Re: [Finale] slightly ot: turkish and russian not displaying properly [mac]

2002-04-29 Thread warren heck
I have been doing make-overs of church music and frequently use Cyrillic font for Russian/Slavonic lyrics. My font is a *.TTF font which I downloaded from the Net, and includes a keyboard reassignent routine. Unfortunately the font is the New Orthography, omitting some of the letters in Slavonic.

Re: [Finale] print dialog

2002-04-29 Thread Philip Aker
On Monday, April 29, 2002, at 01:53 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: > is that the "collate" checkbox has to be manually unchecked > every time I print multiple copies. Saving the priinter > settings doesn't help. > Is there any way I can uncheck that box permanently? Did you try holding down the

Re: [Finale] TAN (very) - chord name

2002-04-29 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 10:41 AM -0700 4/29/02, Phil Shaw wrote: >I find the chord in question generally called bVII, >but...in popular music I almost always see it as >bVII7 (pronounced 'flat 7 7'), used as an alternative >to V7. I.e. the progression bVII7-I is a common >substitute for V7-I. > >Phil Shaw - [EMAIL P

Re: [Finale] MIDI et al

2002-04-29 Thread Anne McGinty
>> Also, I'd like to get a DSL line from my ISP, but Earthlink informs >> me that this too requires ethernet, and that the ethernet port would >> have to be dedicated to this sole function. That last restriction >> sounds fishy to me--did the guy know what he was talking about or >> not? And if s

[Finale] Competition: A different view

2002-04-29 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Listsibs: I have been following with some interest the discussion of a competition using different notation software packages, and have come to the conclusion that in the evaluation of different software packages to solve a problem in general, the questions fundamentally resolve to three: The fi

Re: [Finale] MIDI et al

2002-04-29 Thread David Froom
> I know I asked about this a month or two ago, but I seem to have lost > the info, and since I now know a lot more clearly what I need to ask, > I'll do so: > > My new iMac is now up and running in every respect except MIDI. I > understand from the documentation that MIDI should go to the ethern

Re: [Finale] TAN (very) - chord name

2002-04-29 Thread Doug Auwarter
on 4/29/02 3:45 PM, Andrew Stiller at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In fact, I would be leery myself of applying functional terms to rock > harmonies because IMO this is not a tonal music. Cadences, for > example, can be formed by just about any chord followed by the tonic. The same could be said of

[Finale] slightly ot: turkish and russian not displaying properly [mac]

2002-04-29 Thread shirling & neueweise
finale 2000c, mac i am working on a file which uses turkish and russian lyrics but several of the characters don't display correctly on screen. they are replaced by various symbols - % mostly. the fonts don't seem to be a problem, i did a check document fonts against system fonts, and al

[Finale] print dialog

2002-04-29 Thread Andrew Stiller
I see that the print dialog behaves differently in System 9 than it did in System 8.0. One nice change (though it'll make me have to revise dozens of ReadMe files) is that music in landscape orientation no longer has to be set to calendar-binding when duplexed. A more aggravating change is th

RE: [Finale] TAN (very) - chord name

2002-04-29 Thread Andrew Stiller
>Could it be that the frequency of this chord in pop music is more due to the >influence of pentatonic scales, from African music through blues, etc.? >Seems like blues influences can be found in types of pop music that are not >really bluesy at all, such as Big Hat Country music. Just a thought

Re: Henle and Finale (was: Re: [Finale] Competition anyone?)

2002-04-29 Thread Jari Williamsson
Johannes Gebauer writes: > Well, Henle has not _moved_ to Finale, even if Coda claims this. Henle uses > a variety of software solutions, among them also Finale. To my knowledge > they also use their own system, called Amadeus, although it seems that this > is no longer being developed and not fr

Re: [Finale] Competition anyone?

2002-04-29 Thread Jari Williamsson
Johannes Gebauer writes: > One example that comes immediately to mind is the space between the > clef/key/meter area of a system and the first note. Henle in their > traditional look always had more space than Finale would allow (the problem > is that this particular space cannot be set, it is al

Re: Henle and Finale (was: Re: [Finale] Competition anyone?)

2002-04-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Apr 2002, at 22:02, Johannes Gebauer wrote: > On 29.04.2002 19:59 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote > > > On 29 Apr 2002, at 18:26, Jari Williamsson wrote: > > > >> Johannes Gebauer writes: > >> > >>> Whether those parts are or will ever be available I have no idea. The score > >>> certainly wi

Re: Henle and Finale (was: Re: [Finale] Competition anyone?)

2002-04-29 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 29.04.2002 19:59 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote > On 29 Apr 2002, at 18:26, Jari Williamsson wrote: > >> Johannes Gebauer writes: >> >>> Whether those parts are or will ever be available I have no idea. The score >>> certainly will be. I did not check, however, whether the score was done in >>>

Re: [Finale] Competition anyone?

2002-04-29 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 29.04.2002 18:39 Uhr, Linda Worsley wrote >> >> Fact is that Henle in their other scores do some things that cannot possibly >> be done in Finale, > > Johannes, you have mentioned this before. If at all possible, can > you give us examples? I'm intensely curious! One example that comes im

Re: Henle and Finale (was: Re: [Finale] Competition anyone?)

2002-04-29 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 29.04.2002 18:26 Uhr, Jari Williamsson wrote > Johannes Gebauer writes: > >> Whether those parts are or will ever be available I have no idea. The score >> certainly will be. I did not check, however, whether the score was done in >> Finale, I haven't seen it. > > Why is that particular scor

Re: [Finale] MIDI et al

2002-04-29 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 29.04.2002 17:25 Uhr, Andrew Stiller wrote > My new iMac is now up and running in every respect except MIDI. I > understand from the documentation that MIDI should go to the ethernet > port, but my printer is using it. I assume therefore that I need an > ethernet hub; but I also assume that I

Re: Henle and Finale (was: Re: [Finale] Competition anyone?)

2002-04-29 Thread Philip Aker
On Monday, April 29, 2002, at 09:26 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote: > Johannes Gebauer writes: >> Whether those parts are or will ever be available I have no >> idea. The score >> certainly will be. I did not check, however, whether the score >> was done in >> Finale, I haven't seen it. > Why is

Re: [Finale] Missing Graphics

2002-04-29 Thread Philip Aker
Hello Conrado, Put the graphics folder inside your "Music" folder. Philip On Monday, April 29, 2002, at 11:45 AM, Conrado del Rosario wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Help! > I just finished a score using a lot of small graphics. > The problem is now that when I open the score again, Finale > can't

Re: [Finale] TAN (very) - chord name

2002-04-29 Thread Shelley Huston
Thanks to all who replied. I'm not sure the discussion is ended but there seems to be some consensus between the two, thanks to your help and especially to Hal. Shel ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/fina

Re: Henle and Finale (was: Re: [Finale] Competition anyone?)

2002-04-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Apr 2002, at 18:26, Jari Williamsson wrote: > Johannes Gebauer writes: > > > Whether those parts are or will ever be available I have no idea. The score > > certainly will be. I did not check, however, whether the score was done in > > Finale, I haven't seen it. > > Why is that particular

Re: [Finale] TAN (very) - chord name

2002-04-29 Thread Phil Shaw
I find the chord in question generally called bVII, but...in popular music I almost always see it as bVII7 (pronounced 'flat 7 7'), used as an alternative to V7. I.e. the progression bVII7-I is a common substitute for V7-I. Phil Shaw - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://okshaw.com

[Finale] Missing Graphics

2002-04-29 Thread Conrado del Rosario
Hi everyone, Help! I just finished a score using a lot of small graphics. The problem is now that when I open the score again, Finale can't find them anymore. In place of the graphics are small boxes with the name of the missing ones like " color changes.eps" Is there a way to make Finale find th

Re: [Finale] Copying to layers/voices

2002-04-29 Thread David H. Bailey
Copying from layer 1 in one staff to layer 2 in another staff can be handled in several ways, depending on whether the other layers are already in use on the two staves. Assuming you don't have anything in layer two on staff A, and you don't have anything in layer 1 on staff B, you can simply

Re: [Finale] Competition anyone?

2002-04-29 Thread Linda Worsley
> >Fact is that Henle in their other scores do some things that cannot possibly >be done in Finale, Johannes, you have mentioned this before. If at all possible, can you give us examples? I'm intensely curious! Thanks! Linda ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] TAN (very) - chord name

2002-04-29 Thread Haroldo Mauro Jr.
At 08:37 -0700 29/04/02, Harold Owen wrote: > >In pop music such a chord is simply indicated as Bb - unless, as >some have mentioned, it is really part of a C7 complex (C11 with 9th >added), and for me the best way to indicate it is Bb/C. How it comes >to pop music is an interesting question. I

Henle and Finale (was: Re: [Finale] Competition anyone?)

2002-04-29 Thread Jari Williamsson
Johannes Gebauer writes: > Whether those parts are or will ever be available I have no idea. The score > certainly will be. I did not check, however, whether the score was done in > Finale, I haven't seen it. Why is that particular score so important? It has been announced that Henle is moving

Re: [Finale] TAN (very) - chord name

2002-04-29 Thread Don Hart
on 4/29/02 10:09 AM, Jon Delfin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I buy that, except for two small details: I'd call it bVII. In C major, > which was specified in the original question, VII says "B major" to me. My post was based on a minor key. I misread the original post and thought that the key

Re: [Finale] Competition anyone?

2002-04-29 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 29.04.2002 16:34 Uhr, Philip Aker wrote > On Monday, April 29, 2002, at 05:26 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: > >> To bring up my favourite, Henle, even they use software, and >> their last hand-engraver has now retired. They actually had >> their own software developed although as far as I know

Re: [Finale] TAN (very) - chord name

2002-04-29 Thread Harold Owen
From Shelley Huston: >Two non-internet friends are having an argument which the geniuses >on this list should be able to put to rest. (I'm not a theory >guru.) Is there a name for for a major chord built on the flat 7th? >Example: Bb D F in CM. Thanks all. Shel Since the late 19th centur

Re: [Finale] TAN (very) - chord name

2002-04-29 Thread Don Hart
on 4/29/02 7:04 AM, Shelley Huston at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Two non-internet friends are having an argument which the geniuses on > this list should be able to put to rest. (I'm not a theory guru.) > Is there a name for for a major chord built on the flat 7th? > Example: Bb D F in CM. Tha

[Finale] Copying to layers/voices

2002-04-29 Thread Jamin Hoffman
Dear all - I'm coming out of lurk mode to ask a question - once again, I apologize if this topic has been handled before. Is there a way to copy the music from layers 1 in one staff to layer 2 in another staff? I want to use this to combine two staves (such as clarinet 1 and clarinet 2) while

[Finale] MIDI et al

2002-04-29 Thread Andrew Stiller
I know I asked about this a month or two ago, but I seem to have lost the info, and since I now know a lot more clearly what I need to ask, I'll do so: My new iMac is now up and running in every respect except MIDI. I understand from the documentation that MIDI should go to the ethernet port,

Re: [Finale] TAN (very) - chord name

2002-04-29 Thread Jon Delfin
Andrew Stiller wrote: > >Two non-internet friends are having an argument which the geniuses > >on this list should be able to put to rest. (I'm not a theory > >guru.) Is there a name for for a major chord built on the flat 7th? > >Example: Bb D F in CM. Thanks all. Shel > > The *name* of the

Re: [Finale] TAN (very) - chord name

2002-04-29 Thread Andrew Stiller
>Two non-internet friends are having an argument which the geniuses >on this list should be able to put to rest. (I'm not a theory >guru.) Is there a name for for a major chord built on the flat 7th? >Example: Bb D F in CM. Thanks all. Shel The *name* of the chord is simply Bb Major (the r

Re: [Finale] Competition anyone?

2002-04-29 Thread Philip Aker
On Monday, April 29, 2002, at 05:26 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: > To bring up my favourite, Henle, even they use software, and > their last hand-engraver has now retired. They actually had > their own software developed although as far as I know they do > use Finale on some smaller projects (

Re: [Finale] Competition anyone?

2002-04-29 Thread Patrick Hubers
--Jari Williamsson schreef: >> However, the competition I was thinking about is a little different. I >> will probably start doing some research and put something up on my site >> in the next few weeks (if time allows), and as soon as that has happened >> I'll be looking for participants. > > Wh

Re: [Finale] O.T. - E-mail style.

2002-04-29 Thread Philip Aker
Michael, I don't know how to respond to your post. My previous remarks were intended to be taken as observations rather than confrontations. My major point was: > I think it's best to be in a medium where your heart is already at. If you have not understood the implications of those words at

Re: [Finale] TAN (very) - chord name

2002-04-29 Thread Giz Bowe
At 08:04 AM 4/29/02, you wrote: >Two non-internet friends are having an argument which the geniuses on this >list should be able to put to rest. (I'm not a theory guru.) Is there a >name for for a major chord built on the flat 7th? Example: Bb D F in >CM. Thanks all. Shel The chord you've

Re: [Finale] Re: new computer...

2002-04-29 Thread Philip Aker
Hello David, I think Jari Williamsson has fingered the main difference between these two platforms: "...the Mac has a more object-oriented file system than Windows." > ...offering the ability to put the apps/documents anywhere you > want as the equivalent of having system settings for the >

Re: [Finale] Competition anyone?

2002-04-29 Thread Jari Williamsson
Johannes Gebauer writes: > Definitely a good idea, but an different one from my idea. I do actually > want to see the software compared, though mostly in terms of what it can do, > and not so much whether the way it does things is the best. I still don't see the point here. Finale can notate _an

Re: [Finale] Competition anyone?

2002-04-29 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 29.04.2002 14:13 Uhr, Jari Williamsson wrote >> (Others may well be interested in comparing engraving skills in a >> single-program competition format, but I'm not, and I think that's exactly > >> the sort of thing the individual software manufacturers ought to be >> organizing). > > I don't

Re: [Finale] Competition anyone?

2002-04-29 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 29.04.2002 14:06 Uhr, Patrick Hubers wrote > Lack of time, mostly. I can do some nice things with Finale and I know a > few things about engraving, but I have just enough time to spend with it to > keep my skills from getting worse. There are people on this list far better > qualified than I a

Re: [Finale] Competition anyone?

2002-04-29 Thread David H. Bailey
Daniel Wolf wrote: > I would really like to see a good competition between notation programs. > There is plenty of anecdotal information comparing the output of the > various programs, but very little in the way of concrete examples. As I > see it, the main issue here is "what program should I

Re: [Finale] Competition anyone?

2002-04-29 Thread Jari Williamsson
Daniel Wolf writes: > I would really like to see a good competition between notation programs. > There is plenty of anecdotal information comparing the output of the > various programs, but very little in the way of concrete examples. As I > see it, the main issue here is "what program should I

Re: [Finale] Competition anyone?

2002-04-29 Thread Patrick Hubers
--Johannes Gebauer schreef: >> (not that I would dare to be in the contest myself...). > > Why not? Lack of time, mostly. I can do some nice things with Finale and I know a few things about engraving, but I have just enough time to spend with it to keep my skills from getting worse. There are

[Finale] TAN (very) - chord name

2002-04-29 Thread Shelley Huston
Two non-internet friends are having an argument which the geniuses on this list should be able to put to rest. (I'm not a theory guru.) Is there a name for for a major chord built on the flat 7th? Example: Bb D F in CM. Thanks all. Shel Shelley Huston, MusiCopyist, [EMAIL PROTECTED], users

Re: [Finale] Competition anyone?

2002-04-29 Thread Daniel Wolf
I would really like to see a good competition between notation programs. There is plenty of anecdotal information comparing the output of the various programs, but very little in the way of concrete examples. As I see it, the main issue here is "what program should I buy?". (Others may well be

Re: [Finale] Competition anyone?

2002-04-29 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 29.04.2002 11:58 Uhr, David H. Bailey wrote > Not necessarily -- if it is as you say "with a certain piece of software > rather than another" then for the competition to be about the software > then the same engravers need to use both pieces of software being > compared and then we can see wha

Re: [Finale] Competition anyone?

2002-04-29 Thread David H. Bailey
Not necessarily -- if it is as you say "with a certain piece of software rather than another" then for the competition to be about the software then the same engravers need to use both pieces of software being compared and then we can see what each engraver can do with both pieces of software

Re: [Finale] Competition anyone?

2002-04-29 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 29.04.2002 10:09 Uhr, d. collins wrote > David H. Bailey écrit: >> So it isn't about the software after all, but about what the engraver can do. > > ... with a certain piece of software rather than another. Which I think pretty much sums it up. There is no objective way to compare notation s

Re: [Finale] Competition anyone?

2002-04-29 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 29.04.2002 0:42 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote > What about having them submit the file before the plugins and after, with > an accounting of how much time was spent using the plugin to make the > file better? > > Wouldn't that be incredibly useful information? It would be useful, but will make

Re: [Finale] Competition anyone?

2002-04-29 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 28.04.2002 22:21 Uhr, d. collins wrote > David H. Bailey écrit: >> One would have to depend upon the integrity of the engravers to live up to >> the constraints of the competition. I would hope that would not be an issue. > > I think it would be asking quite a bit from them to spend hours do