AW: [Finale] Music Engraving Today

2002-06-06 Thread Mario Aschauer
>I am not affiliated with the authors, publishers or sellers of these great tools. Neither am I but also recommend Powell's book! A must for every engraver. Regards, Mario. MARIO ASCHAUER Music Director Ensemble NovAntique Linz Teacher Training College of the Diocese

Re: [Finale] Re: conveying musical meaning

2002-06-06 Thread Darcy James Argue
On Thursday, June 6, 2002, at 09:06 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > That is not to say, though, that great poetry necessarily generates > great > music. Many have argued quite the contrary, that bad poetry and bad > librettos make the best songs and operas. But that's a different > discussion! I

Re: [Finale] Re: conveying musical meaning

2002-06-06 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Jun 2002, at 17:32, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: > At 10:25 PM +0200 6/05/02, Paul Delcour wrote: > >You are entitled to what ever way you enjoy and make music, but in > >placing the notes before or over the lyrics you are forgetting that > >all composers started with the lyrics, were inspi

[Finale] Music Engraving Today

2002-06-06 Thread MacRalston
Music Engraving Today is a new book by Steven Powell. I highly recommend this book to any working (or hoping to be) music typesetter/engraver/editor. Powell has a direct and appropriately sardonic writing style and an "eye for layout" that makes the book a joy to hold and read. Comparisons of F

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2002-06-06 Thread amrita
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2003

2002-06-06 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 06:06 PM 06/06/02, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: >to which I might point out that it's probably not going to be in the mail; Coda >uses FEDex Ground rather than USPS Okay, well, it wasn't brought to my house today by any of the various people who might do so. Aaron. _

Re: [Finale] Finale 2003

2002-06-06 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Responding to comments about ordering the FIN2003 upgrade, Aaron Sherber wrote: > Nothing in Thursday's mail -- I *really* hope they're not holding things up > for the t-shirts. to which I might point out that it's probably not going to be in the mail; Coda uses FEDex Ground rather than USPS..

[Finale] Copying composite time signatures FinMac 2002b

2002-06-06 Thread Matthew Hindson
I'm having problems copying composite time signatures, and was wondering whether it is just my computer, or whether others can replicate the problem. I have a composite time signature in one bar, say 3+2+2/8 which is set to display as 7/8. Select Partial Bars is off, Mass Mover is set to copy ev

Re: [Finale] a piano question

2002-06-06 Thread David H. Bailey
Robert, your depth of knowledge of this program never ceases to amaze me! I never would have thought of that solution. I would have created a different instrument set to a different channel. Thanks! I just tried your solution and it indeed works. What a list! Without it I'd be lost! Rob

Re: [Finale] 1st and 2nd endings

2002-06-06 Thread David H. Bailey
It is all in how you define the jump for the BEGINNING bracket for the first ending -- you have to set it to jump on total passes, set the total passes to 1, set the target measure to the first measure of the second ending. You have to set the repeat sign at the end of the first ending to jum

Re: engraver slurs (was Re: [Finale] Henle and Finale)

2002-06-06 Thread Jari Williamsson
Mark D. Lew writes: > Now admittedly, it's nice to know that option exists -- it's essentially > the same thing I get from the nudge bug, which I was afraid I'd lose if I > ever got around to installing the patch -- but that's not really the point. It's not a "bug". It's designed that way. Also

Re: [Finale] a piano question

2002-06-06 Thread Michael Edwards
[Brian St. John:] >1)When "8va" is present above the top line, do both lines play an octave >higher? Or just the top line? I'm not quite sure whether this is a question about how Finale plays music back, or whether it is about rules of notation. I will answer it as the latter, as I do

Re: [Finale] a piano question

2002-06-06 Thread Robert Patterson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote > > 1)When "8va" is present above the top line, do both lines play an octave > higher? Or just the top line? I thought this was staff behavior rather than instrument behavior (see below), but I haven't checked it recently. > > 2)I used the "8va" as a note exp

Re: [Finale] Finale 2003

2002-06-06 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 02:06 PM 06/06/02, David H. Bailey wrote: >I ordered on Saturday, too, and am still waiting. Nothing in Thursday's mail -- I *really* hope they're not holding things up for the t-shirts. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mai

[Finale] a piano question

2002-06-06 Thread Bkstjohn
And, about this previously mentioned piano piece I am transcribing. . . 1)When "8va" is present above the top line, do both lines play an octave higher? Or just the top line? 2)I used the "8va" as a note expression for the top line - but both lines are playing an octave higher. How w

Re: [Finale] Finale 2003 and Mac OSX

2002-06-06 Thread Darcy James Argue
On Thursday, June 6, 2002, at 01:40 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: > I have been following the discussion of this subject (dear to my heart, > as I wait with the rest of you) with some disappointment. I was told > by a Coda person that the plan was ( I hope I am not breaking a > confidence) that F

[Finale] 1st and 2nd endings

2002-06-06 Thread Bkstjohn
Hi folks, When I have a 1st and 2nd ending I am having trouble getting the playback to skip over the 1st ending on the 2nd pass. (It plays the 1st ending both times. . . then goes to the 2nd ending.) This is just a piano piece. The 1st ending is 2 bars long, I have bracketed the bars with

[Finale] (no subject)

2002-06-06 Thread Bkstjohn
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2003 and Mac OSX

2002-06-06 Thread Steven Powell
Unfortunately, "carbonizing" is a little more complicated for MIDI and audio programs than it is for, say, a word processor. It is worth noting that Sibelius "announced" Sibelius 2.0 for Mac OSX in March, and they are still only taking pre-orders for the program (they _released_ the Windows upgrad

Re: [Finale] Finale 2003 and Mac OSX

2002-06-06 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 06.06.2002 19:40 Uhr, Chuck Israels wrote > I have been following the discussion of this subject (dear to my > heart, as I wait with the rest of you) with some disappointment. I > was told by a Coda person that the plan was ( I hope I am not > breaking a confidence) that Finmac 2003 would be

Re: engraver slurs (was Re: [Finale] Henle and Finale)

2002-06-06 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 06.06.2002 21:04 Uhr, Mark D. Lew wrote > I'm actually reasonably happy with the slur situation as it is, so I don't > mean to sound like I'm complaining. I'm just saying that it could be a lot > more efficient in terms of input. Right now I use a lot of gimmicks to > tweak everything how I

RE: [Finale] Finale 2003 and Mac OSX

2002-06-06 Thread Tobias Giesen
> When may we expect to see Finale for Mac OSX? Officially announced for summer 2003. But who knows, I'm still hoping for an earlier release date. Cheers, Tobias ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] A very inconvenient problem...

2002-06-06 Thread David H. Bailey
My guess would be a stuck key, since the 7 is the metatool key for both p in the expressions list and the 16th-roll marking. Pop the 7 off your keyboard (with the power off, of course) and make sure there isn't anything under it. Check both 7s on the keyboard. SCOTT GREEN wrote: > (I'd ca

Re: engraver slurs (was Re: [Finale] Henle and Finale)

2002-06-06 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 9:46 AM 06/06/02, Jari Williamsson wrote: >It is NOT only a document-wide option. Using the contextual menu for the >slur, you can turn Engraver Slurs on/off for each individual slur. >[ ... etc] I wasn't aware of the contextual menu. I'm glad to know about it; I can see a few things there t

Re: [Finale] Finale 2003

2002-06-06 Thread David H. Bailey
I ordered on Saturday, too, and am still waiting. I live in New Hampshire, which is a bit of a hike from Minnesota, though, so I figure possibly this afternoon or tomorrow. Giz Bowe wrote: > At 07:30 AM 6/6/02, you wrote: > >> At 07:17 AM 06/06/02, Richard Yates wrote: >> >I have been away

[Finale] Finale and Mac OS X

2002-06-06 Thread Michael Good
Here's a link to Coda's official statement on Finale and Mac OS X: http://www.codamusic.com/coda/faq_display_client.asp?faq%5Fid=19512 Michael ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Finale 2003 and Mac OSX

2002-06-06 Thread Chuck Israels
At 6:36 PM +0200 6/6/02, Johannes Gebauer wrote: >On 06.06.2002 17:27 Uhr, Alan Smith wrote > >> Dear List, >> >> (I have just re-subscribed after a couple of months' absence, so please >> excuse me if this one has already been discussed.) >> >> When may we expect to see Finale for Mac OSX? Fi

Re: [Finale] Notation query in Bach

2002-06-06 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 06.06.2002 16:26 Uhr, Charles Small wrote > > Hello Collective Wisdom, > > In the Peters "Urtext" edition of the Bach trio sonatas, there is a > "lozenge" mark (an open rhomboid) above some of the notes in the violin > part. > Does anyone know what this means? > Expiring minds want to know!

Re: [Finale] Finale 2003 and Mac OSX

2002-06-06 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 06.06.2002 17:27 Uhr, Alan Smith wrote > Dear List, > > (I have just re-subscribed after a couple of months' absence, so please > excuse me if this one has already been discussed.) > > When may we expect to see Finale for Mac OSX? Finale 2002 is about the > only program I still use in Classi

Re: [Finale] Finale 2003

2002-06-06 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 09:24 AM 06/06/02, Giz Bowe wrote: >Has anyone received Fin2k3 yet? I ordered on-line Saturday and am watching >for the mailman with my cat Mickey (whose daily high-point is watching mail >come in the mail-slot!). Also ordered Saturday, also still waiting. It seems that the last couple of

Re: [Finale] A very inconvenient problem...

2002-06-06 Thread JohnBlane
In a message dated 6/6/02 9:29:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << When I choose either the Articulation or the Expression tools, any mouse click in the music results in either a "p" dynamic or a 16th-roll-flag (?) marking. I can't get to any other details to choose another selection. I can

Re: [Finale] A very inconvenient problem...

2002-06-06 Thread SCOTT GREEN
Thanks for the quick reply. I'll give it a shot later today. Scott >>> "Jari Williamsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06/06/02 09:52AM >>> SCOTT GREEN writes: > When I choose either the Articulation or the Expression tools, > any mouse click in the music results in either a "p" dynamic or > a 16th-ro

Re: [Finale] A very inconvenient problem...

2002-06-06 Thread Jari Williamsson
SCOTT GREEN writes: > When I choose either the Articulation or the Expression tools, > any mouse click in the music results in either a "p" dynamic or > a 16th-roll-flag (?) marking. I can't get to any other details to > choose another selection. I can right click on the newly-inserted > item

[Finale] A very inconvenient problem...

2002-06-06 Thread SCOTT GREEN
(I'd call Coda support, but the problem is on my home computer...) Setup: 2002b/Win When I choose either the Articulation or the Expression tools, any mouse click in the music results in either a "p" dynamic or a 16th-roll-flag (?) marking. I can't get to any other details to choose another s

[Finale] Notation query in Bach

2002-06-06 Thread Charles Small
Hello Collective Wisdom, In the Peters "Urtext" edition of the Bach trio sonatas, there is a "lozenge" mark (an open rhomboid) above some of the notes in the violin part. Does anyone know what this means? Expiring minds want to know! TIA, Ch.S. _

Re: [Finale] Finale 2003

2002-06-06 Thread Richard Yates
http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-52653/Finale/Fin2003Review/index.html > What's the URL for his site? Thanks. > > At 07:30 AM 6/6/02 -0400, you wrote: > >Jari also has a review up at his site that has much more useful > >information than the Coda marketing drivel. There seem to be a whole bunch > >of

Re: [Finale] Re: Pachelbel's canon

2002-06-06 Thread Philip Aker
On Wednesday, June 5, 2002, at 07:59 AM, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: >> A good question and I know better than to say "Nevah!" on this >> list, but generally for analytical purposes of pitch content, >> very little. I'd say this approach is in keeping with both >> atonal and serial analysis.

Re: [Finale] Finale 2003

2002-06-06 Thread Giz Bowe
At 07:30 AM 6/6/02, you wrote: >At 07:17 AM 06/06/02, Richard Yates wrote: > >I have been away and unsubscribed for three weeks so I do not know if > >everyone already knows that Finale 2003 (Windows) has been released. > >Yes -- some of us are already awaiting our t-shirts! Has anyone received F

RE: [Finale] Re: conveying musical meaning

2002-06-06 Thread Stu McIntire
Hammerstein always wrote lyrics to fit the music until he worked with Rogers. This was common in that style of writing. Hammerstein talks about this in the intro to his collected lyrics. Stu -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark D. Lew S

Re: [Finale] Finale 2003

2002-06-06 Thread Rick & Kathy Neiman
What's the URL for his site?  Thanks. At 07:30 AM 6/6/02 -0400, you wrote: Jari also has a review up at his site that has much more useful information than the Coda marketing drivel. There seem to be a whole bunch of improvements with TAB notation, by the way. Aaron. __

Re: [Finale] Re: conveying musical meaning

2002-06-06 Thread Paul Delcour
In writing words or music, they often alternate: sometimes the words come first, sometimes the tune. I usually write to existing words, so I have to stick to their meaning. Have you ever translated words? Phew. That's probably the most difficult of all composing tasks. I didn't intend to be h

Re: [Finale] Re: conveying musical meaning

2002-06-06 Thread Paul Delcour
It becomes worse when people write for voice as if it were an instrument. Bach for one was good at this. You get the optimum usign the instrument to its full capabilities but also to it's true identity and possibilities. :-) Paul Delcour John Bell wrote: > At 12:17 am +0200 06.06.2002, Paul

Re: [Finale] Finale 2003

2002-06-06 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 07:17 AM 06/06/02, Richard Yates wrote: >I have been away and unsubscribed for three weeks so I do not know if >everyone already knows that Finale 2003 (Windows) has been released.  Yes -- some of us are already awaiting our t-shirts! Jari also has a review up at his site that has much mo

[Finale] Finale 2003

2002-06-06 Thread Richard Yates
I have been away and unsubscribed for three weeks so I do not know if everyone already knows that Finale 2003 (Windows) has been released. See: http://www.codamusic.com/finale/ Richard Yates ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu

Re: [Finale] Re: conveying musical meaning

2002-06-06 Thread Crystal Premo
>>Hendricks' fine work << I agree. Some of the best stuff in the world. Crystal Premo [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. _

Re: [Finale] Terminology question

2002-06-06 Thread David H. Bailey
I think the original question had more to do with a global nature, rather than having to adjust each individual articulation. Other than adjusting each articulation, there is no global setting which always places articulations above the note. Mark D. Lew wrote: > At 5:30 PM 06/05/02, Joel S

Re: [Finale] Re: conveying musical meaning

2002-06-06 Thread David H. Bailey
If there is anybody who is not aware of Hendricks' fine work, then they should be! I am not given to "me too" posts usually, but I have to jump in here and agree wholeheartedly with Chuck! Hendricks' ability to fit the words to the lyrics at breakneck speed hearkens back to Gilbert & Sulliva

Re: engraver slurs (was Re: [Finale] Henle and Finale)

2002-06-06 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 06.06.2002 4:01 Uhr, Mark D. Lew wrote > But since engraver slurs on or off is a document-wide selection, > that's not really a completely feasible option. But you can control click on any Engraver slur (Windows: right click) and select "Engraver slur: off". Isn't that exactly what you mean?

Re: engraver slurs (was Re: [Finale] Henle and Finale)

2002-06-06 Thread Jari Williamsson
Mark D. Lew writes: > When an engraver slur is first drawn, the algorithm that chooses its shape > and position it is not the same as the algorithm that does so if engraver > slurs are turned off. I have found that about 85% of the time, I prefer > the engraver slur as a starting point; but abou

Re: [Finale] Re: conveying musical meaning

2002-06-06 Thread Mark D. Lew
>Oh man, difficult and then some! > >I think that Ira Gershwin sometimes worked this way with George's >music too, and the results are pretty uniformly great, no matter what >the order of creation. My favorite example is "Indian Summer". Al Dubin wrote the words to tune which Victor Herbert had

Re: [Finale] Re: conveying musical meaning

2002-06-06 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 11:47 PM 06/05/02, Doug Auwarter wrote: [answering Paul Delcour] >> you are forgetting that all >> composers started with the lyrics, were inspired by them and set their >> music according to the meaning of the words. > >What??!! >This just is not the case. Perhaps you're speaking from a "clas