Re: [Finale] Hyphen under rest?

2004-02-22 Thread Mr. Liudas Motekaitis
I looked and found them all over the place. Sorry for the very misinforming statement. Liudas > This isn't rare at all: operas are full of words that go across rests > (have a look at a score of "Il Barbiere di Siviglia" or "La > Traviata"). It's normal to keep the hyphens going under the rests.

Re: [Finale] Re: Horns and signatures

2004-02-22 Thread Raymond Horton
Thanks, Robert, it looks like that fixes it.In this particular score, I don't remember by what method I tried thisbefore.  Something, that to my mind, should have worked (and pretty nearly,did).It could be a bit clearer.RH- Original Message - From: "Robert Patterson" <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [Finale] Re: Horns and signatures

2004-02-22 Thread Raymond Horton
Thanks, Robert, it looks like that fixes it. In this particular score, I don't remember by what method I tried this before. Something, that to my mind, should have worked (and pretty nearly, did). It could be a bit clearer. RH - Original Message - From: "Robert Patterson" <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [Finale] Re: Horns and signatures

2004-02-22 Thread Robert Patterson
Raymond Horton wrote: > And, of course, Finale REALLY SHOULD be able to handle it. > Erm. Finale *does* handle it, in an elegant although not obvious way. For music in a key, you should use key based transposition. So: 1. Set the key(s) of the piece as a whole. 2. Open the staff attributes for th

[Finale] Re: Horns and transposing

2004-02-22 Thread Raymond Horton
Matthew Hindson wrote: > Also on horns, when helping a friend the other day we found that if you > enter notes using Simple Entry tool in a transposing score, the application > thinks you're entering sounding pitch and subsequently transposes them up a > fifth or whatever, whereas if you enter the

Re: [Finale] Re: Horns and signatures

2004-02-22 Thread Raymond Horton
I always agreed with you, but horn players generally don't, and the experience I mentioned was enough to make me give up on it. It's just not worth it. The horn players rationale is something along the line of: they play a horn in two keys (occasionally 3 keys) and read parts transposed in 12 dif

Re: [Finale] Hyphen under rest?

2004-02-22 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 1:23 PM -0800 2/22/04, Mark D Lew wrote: Hyphens continuing under the rest is correct. I wouldn't call it rare. I've even seen it in pop music. mdl "Rocky Horror Picture Show", opening number, lyric at one point is "antici-" bar or so rest "pation!" Very effective.

Re: [Finale] Re: Horns and signatures

2004-02-22 Thread Robert Patterson
Well, perhaps I don't count as old, although I'm old enough that I could plausibly have been a grandpa by now. Anyway, this old pro sees horn parts with key signatures quite frequently. I can just imagine what our conductor would say if I openly announced I couldn't read such a part. I have tw

Re: [Finale] Hyphen under rest?

2004-02-22 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 22, 2004, at 9:18 AM, d. collins wrote: I have a word that begins with a melisma on the first syllable, followed by a rest before the second syllable. The hyphens continue to run under the rest. Is that how things should be, or should the hyphens stop after the last note, before the rest

[Finale] Re: Horns and signatures

2004-02-22 Thread Harold Owen
Dear folks, Knowing that many will disagree with me, but IMHO I think it's time for horn players to get used to reading key signatures in their parts. Younger players are more likely to find signatures often enough to be comfortable with them. The "old pros" should get with it and learn to pla

Re: [Finale] Hyphen under rest?

2004-02-22 Thread Andrew Stiller
This is extremely rare. Asking a singer to cut off a word in the middle of it is not anything I've ever seen in any music. ... Liudas It's commonplace in Mediaeval music, and not all that rare in operatic melismata. -- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ __

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2004-02-22 Thread Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account
> Anyway. In WinFin 2003, when I get done with the score and turn the key > sigs off on the horn staves on one particular score , a few of the sharps > (mainly written C# as I recall) didn't show in the score or parts (it still > plays OK, on the computer, anyway.) I had to go back through it and

Re: [Finale] Hyphen under rest?

2004-02-22 Thread Michael Cook
This isn't rare at all: operas are full of words that go across rests (have a look at a score of "Il Barbiere di Siviglia" or "La Traviata"). It's normal to keep the hyphens going under the rests. Best wishes, Michael Cook At 21:54 +0200 22/02/2004, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote: This is extreme

Re: [Finale] Hyphen under rest?

2004-02-22 Thread Mr. Liudas Motekaitis
This is extremely rare. Asking a singer to cut off a word in the middle of it is not anything I've ever seen in any music. But if you're sure that the notation is correct, I would vote to keep the hyphens going under the rest to emphasise the fact that the word (the thought) continues through the p

Re: [Finale] Copying hairpins.

2004-02-22 Thread Robert Patterson
You have to check Smart Shapes in the Measure Attached area of the dialog. Otherwise what you described should have worked. Make sure that your target region is the same metrical size or larger than the source region. For hairpins, you must select a big enough target region to hold it, or it wo

Re: [Finale] Copying hairpins.

2004-02-22 Thread Mr. Liudas Motekaitis
> I am engraving some exercises that have all eighth notes with > crescendo-diminuendo hairpins on each. Is there any to copy the first > hairpins to the other eighth notes so that they will all be the same? Complete one measure containing hairpins, attaching the hairpins to your measure. Then: