Re: [Finale] Swing rhythm notation

2003-06-04 Thread Darcy James Argue
On Tuesday, June 3, 2003, at 09:08 AM, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: At 11:35 PM -0400 6/02/03, Darcy James Argue wrote: Notating swing rhythms in 12/8, or as dotted-eighth-sixteenth figures (especially) is about as close to genuine swing as the following notation would be to a genuine Viennese w

Re: [Finale] Swing rhythm notation

2003-06-03 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 11:35 PM -0400 6/02/03, Darcy James Argue wrote: Notating swing rhythms in 12/8, or as dotted-eighth-sixteenth figures (especially) is about as close to genuine swing as the following notation would be to a genuine Viennese waltz feel: quarter - eighth rest - eighth note - quarter note. Oop

Re: [Finale] Swing rhythm notation (previously: Notationalconventions...).

2003-06-03 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 5:07 AM +1000 6/03/03, Michael Edwards wrote: I can't, off the top of my head, think of an alternative way to notate Viennese waltz rhythm more accurately than based on even beats; maybe one could be devised, but I suspect it would be far more complicated that a simple triplet or dotted r

Re: [Finale] Swing rhythm notation

2003-06-03 Thread Darcy James Argue
On Monday, June 2, 2003, at 03:07 PM, Michael Edwards wrote: [Darcy James Argue:] I suppose this would depend on whether you wanted a parody of how jazz musicians play eighth notes (which is what you would get with 12/8 or [worse] dotted eighth-sixteenth notation), or wanted some actual reasonable

Re: [Finale] Swing rhythm notation (previously: Notational conventions...).

2003-06-03 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 5:07 AM 06/03/03, Michael Edwards wrote: > But in swing rhythms, even if a literally-played triplet rhythm doesn't >swing, and even if *true* swing rhythm is very subtle, too much so to be >notated >exactly, it does strike me that triplet or dotted-rhythm notation is at least >*closer* to t

[Finale] Swing rhythm notation (previously: Notational conventions...).

2003-06-03 Thread Michael Edwards
This debate, while very interesting, seems to have focused on the notation of swing music; but, using that as an example, it does seem to bring up many different aspects of the purpose of notation and the broader philosophy behind it. I do have a few more responses to various postings over th