[Finale] Two "Simple" questions

2005-07-01 Thread keith helgesen
In Simple Entry, is there a way to;   1) Break or create beam between two notes  (Speedy =   /) 2) Show ‘diatonic’ accidental.   (Speedy=    *)   As you see- I am aware that I can go into Speedy to do these- but I’m one of the weird mob who habitually uses Simple. (

RE: [Finale] Wacky Theory Books I have Loved

2005-07-01 Thread keith helgesen
In 1974, in a 'flea market' in Sydney I picked up a book entitled "Everything you need to know about Music Theory" Published 1922. It was the size of a paperback, by a bloke called E Danson- and had exactly 12 pages!! Talk about "Explain the Meaning of Life in 15 minutes!!" I still have it somewh

Re: [Finale] Wacky Theory Books I have Loved

2005-07-01 Thread Bruce Petherick
Gerald Berg wrote: The N(ew)D(iatonic)M(odal) Principle of Relative Music Forward by Joseph Yasser with an introduction by Nicolas Slonimsky A good friend of mine gave me that a year ago as he didn't understand it. I must say, after reading it a couple of times, I am not too sure the au

[Finale] Re: Open Recent...

2005-07-01 Thread Brian Williams
Noel Stoutenburg wrote: > > Brian Williams wrote: > >> Is there some way to clear out the "Open Recent..." list in the File menu of >> Finale 2005 (Mac) without trashing all of the global preference settings? >> >> > Try selecting options > program options > advanced, and setting the > value to

Re: [Finale] Re: half rests in 6/4?

2005-07-01 Thread Owain Sutton
Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Owain, I agree, but there are lots old editions out there with the order reversed (new value = old value). I don't know why *anyone* ever thought that was a good way of indicating tempo shifts, but unfortunately, it's not uncommon. Interesting - I'll look ou

Re: [Finale] Re: half rests in 6/4?

2005-07-01 Thread David W. Fenton
On 1 Jul 2005 at 23:02, Owain Sutton wrote: > David W. Fenton wrote: > > > I don't agree that it's problematic to indicate something like E = E > > when there's a change of time signature whose interpretation is > > ambiguous. The hard part is when it's something like Q = H, where it > > may be t

Re: [Finale] Re: half rests in 6/4?

2005-07-01 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Owain, I agree, but there are lots old editions out there with the order reversed (new value = old value). I don't know why *anyone* ever thought that was a good way of indicating tempo shifts, but unfortunately, it's not uncommon. Putting the "=" directly above the barline is good pract

Re: [Finale] Re: half rests in 6/4?

2005-07-01 Thread Owain Sutton
David W. Fenton wrote: I don't agree that it's problematic to indicate something like E = E when there's a change of time signature whose interpretation is ambiguous. The hard part is when it's something like Q = H, where it may be that the old quarter equals the new half, or the old half e

Re: [Finale] WAV To MP3 Converters

2005-07-01 Thread Technoid
On 7/1/05, David W. Fenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Of course, iTunes is like that, too -- I am not going to use it for > burning CDs, so I've turned off the system service it insists on > installing. This means iTunes complains every time I start it that > the CD burning service is not runni

RE: [Finale] Re: half rests in 6/4?

2005-07-01 Thread Lee Actor
[snip] > Some > passages are simply insoluble, such as the lone 6/8 bar immediately > before rehearsal G in the first mvt. of Hindemith's _Symphonische > Metamorphosen_. The prevailing meter is 2/4; is the beat to be held > constant through the 6/8 measure (compound meter), or the note values > (s

Re: [Finale] Re: half rests in 6/4?

2005-07-01 Thread David W. Fenton
On 1 Jul 2005 at 12:28, Andrew Stiller wrote: > On Jun 30, 2005, at 9:55 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > > I'm puzzled by why one would want to "rationalize" 6/8 to 6/12, > > While I agree that 6/12 is a bad solution, that does not mean there is > no problem. Composers for at least a century have

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4? - back to the original question, please!

2005-07-01 Thread Harold Owen
From Technoid: On 6/30/05, Harold Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello folks. Has anyone mentioned the term "sesquialtera"? One source i have says "IIn Hispanic Music, it may refer to the mixture of duple and triple time within groups of six quavers (eighth notes)." Sesquialtera is also

Re: [Finale] Paul Creston's 12/12

2005-07-01 Thread Phil Daley
At 7/1/2005 12:08 PM, Gerald Berg wrote:   >Just thought I'd re-title for those pursuing other gambits. > >Jerry > >On 1-Jul-05, at 11:38 AM, Gerald Berg wrote: > >> Unfortunately i could not down load the mp3 file David. If you put <> around a URL, it will be less likely to be split up by a mail

Re: [Finale] Re: half rests in 6/4?

2005-07-01 Thread David W. Fenton
On 1 Jul 2005 at 11:38, Gerald Berg wrote: > Unfortunately i could not down load the mp3 file David. Probably it wasn't clear that there was a space between "Coperario- Fantasy" and "à3". If you go to http://www.dfenton.com/Collegium/SideBySideViols/ you can then click on the file from there (i

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4? - back to the original question, please!

2005-07-01 Thread David W. Fenton
On 1 Jul 2005 at 11:19, Andrew Stiller wrote: [I wrote:] > > I *do* see a problem with calling something a hemiola that is > > EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what a hemiola actually is. > > Of two examples given in the relevant _New Grove_ article, the second > (from Lully) is of the type you call "reve

Re: [Finale] WAV To MP3 Converters

2005-07-01 Thread David W. Fenton
On 1 Jul 2005 at 4:57, Richard Yates wrote: > > > MusicMatch JukeBox > > > > No way! That's a horrid program that I've seen pre-installed on a > > lot of Windows PCs. It takes over and won't let you control it. > > I use it only for converting files. I run it, use it, close it. No > problems. Wha

[Finale] Wacky Theory Books I have Loved

2005-07-01 Thread Gerald Berg
This talk of Paul Creston has giving me a hankering for talking of further books. I admit to having had a Borgesian bent of mind before I really knew what it meant. For instance I've always preferred Hauer's vision of 12 tone over Schoenberg's. Persuing that line of thought is what eventua

[Finale] Paul Creston's 12/12

2005-07-01 Thread Gerald Berg
Just thought I'd re-title for those pursuing other gambits. Jerry On 1-Jul-05, at 11:38 AM, Gerald Berg wrote: Unfortunately i could not down load the mp3 file David. Awfully naked score! i don't think I could resist mucking it up more if it were mine. The idea is very familiar to me... my

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4?

2005-07-01 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jun 30, 2005, at 9:55 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: I have the score in front of me. He writes it as "6/8 (3/4)" with the header "Tempo di Huapango (fast)." The beaming of the hemiolated (3/4) measures is inconsistent. Ack!!! Andrew! How can someone who is so particular about terminology get

Re: [Finale] Re: half rests in 6/4?

2005-07-01 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jun 30, 2005, at 9:55 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: I'm puzzled by why one would want to "rationalize" 6/8 to 6/12, While I agree that 6/12 is a bad solution, that does not mean there is no problem. Composers for at least a century have found the traditional notation of compound meters to

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4? - back to the original question, please!

2005-07-01 Thread Technoid
On 6/30/05, Harold Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello folks. > > Has anyone mentioned the term "sesquialtera"? One source i have says > "IIn Hispanic Music, it may refer to the mixture of duple and triple > time within groups of six quavers (eighth notes)." Sesquialtera is also an organ stop

Re: [Finale] Re: half rests in 6/4?

2005-07-01 Thread Gerald Berg
Unfortunately i could not down load the mp3 file David. Awfully naked score! i don't think I could resist mucking it up more if it were mine. The idea is very familiar to me... my music wouldn't exist without it. I do like the idea of using a bracket to delineate internal phrasing -- Cres

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4? - back to the original question, please!

2005-07-01 Thread Andrew Stiller
I *do* see a problem with calling something a hemiola that is EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what a hemiola actually is. Of two examples given in the relevant _New Grove_ article, the second (from Lully) is of the type you call "reverse hemiola," and is characterized in the text as "an instance of

Re: [Finale] Subdominant-was half rests in 6/4

2005-07-01 Thread John Howell
Title: Re: [Finale] Subdominant-was half rests in 6/4 At 9:31 AM -0400 6/30/05, dr.a.s. weinstangel wrote: Regarding "...Subdominant (used to mean the 4th of the scale, or the chord built on it. Now means ANY chord that can lead to a dominant (though it doesn't invariably have to)...etc." From:

Re: [Finale] WAV To MP3 Converters

2005-07-01 Thread Richard Yates
> > MusicMatch JukeBox > > No way! That's a horrid program that I've seen pre-installed on a lot > of Windows PCs. It takes over and won't let you control it. I use it only for converting files. I run it, use it, close it. No problems. What do you mean by 'take over'? Richard Yates ___