Re: [Finale] OT: Ophecleide

2009-08-31 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
FWIW, I've long been a proponent of (as an American composer) using directions in English as much as possible. If it's been good enough for the Italians, French, and Germans ... why not us? Let them come to us for a change ... eh, it's just the curmudgeon bubbling to the surface ... I tu

Re: [Finale] OT: Ophecleide

2009-08-31 Thread arabushk
I usually put as many of the words in my scores into Italian as possible, somewhat drawing on my experience of making recordings in Moravia where they understood everything I wrote in Italian, and not necessarily what I wrote in English (e.g., "white keys," "rim shot"). ajr > At 9:21 PM -0500 8/3

Re: [Finale] OT: Ophecleide

2009-08-31 Thread John Howell
At 9:21 PM -0500 8/31/09, arabu...@cowtown.net wrote: Has anyone here run across the feminized "Cornetta" to refer to the 3-valve cornet? I'm about to finalize a score that includes this instrument, and I don't want it mistake for the cornetto of Moneteverdi's time. ajr No, although that doesn

Re: [Finale] OT: Ophecleide

2009-08-31 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Didn't Bobo play for either Chicago and or Philly at one time? That's going back a bit .. Dean On Aug 31, 2009, at 7:20 PM, Ray Horton wrote: I think we might be misunderstanding the intent of Roger Bobo's page. He was the long time tubist with the Los Angeles Symphony and is simply maki

Re: [Finale] OT: Ophecleide

2009-08-31 Thread arabushk
Has anyone here run across the feminized "Cornetta" to refer to the 3-valve cornet? I'm about to finalize a score that includes this instrument, and I don't want it mistake for the cornetto of Moneteverdi's time. ajr ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.

Re: [Finale] OT: Ophecleide

2009-08-31 Thread David W. Fenton
On 31 Aug 2009 at 22:20, Ray Horton wrote: > Now, regarding David's comparison of a pianist, Mozart, and a > fortepiano, I am guessing that a pianist might not choose the Mozart-era > fortepiano if playing with a modern orchestra, larger than those in > Mozart's day, and playing in a large concer

Re: [Finale] OT: Ophecleide

2009-08-31 Thread arabushk
Would be interesting to here a Roger Norrington Roman Triptych, 78-rpm disc and all. and perhaps official buccine instead of saxhorns/flügelhorns? ajr > I think we might be misunderstanding the intent of Roger Bobo's page. He > was the long time tubist with the Los Angeles Symphony and is simply

Re: [Finale] OT: Ophecleide

2009-08-31 Thread Ray Horton
I think we might be misunderstanding the intent of Roger Bobo's page. He was the long time tubist with the Los Angeles Symphony and is simply making observations on what he sees going on in the symphonic world now. He was/is no troglodyte himself - for example, he helped bring the F tuba into m

Re: [Finale] OT: Ophecleide

2009-08-31 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
The Aida triumphal trombones and cimbasso were not in the banda, but shared two staves. I cannot remember whether the distribution was 2+2 or 3+1 on the staves, but they clearly were thought as a section. The banda was written in style of a piano reduction on a treble staff and a bass staff. I

Re: [Finale] OT: Ophecleide

2009-08-31 Thread Ray Horton
Thanks, Klaus, for the reminder of the mid-19th century "valved ophicleide." I had forgotten it. I suppose if a keyed trumpet (the Haydn concerto instrument with open holes) and a valved trumpet can both be trumpets, then a keyed ophicleide and a valve ophicleide can both be ophicleides. Do

Re: [Finale] OT: Ophecleide

2009-08-31 Thread David W. Fenton
On 31 Aug 2009 at 5:37, dhbailey wrote: > These days, often in discussions such as sometimes occur on > orchestralist, people seem to be of the "play it with the > instruments called for in the score or don't play it at all. > How dare you go against the clearly written desires of the > comp

Re: [Finale] preferences and Finale 2008(mac)

2009-08-31 Thread Chuck Israels
Martin, I'd like to help, but I am not clear as to what you mean. Your preference file (kept by default in User/Library/Preferences - but it need not necessarily remain there) affects all Finale documents. Your Maestro default controls certain settings for new documents. You can save a

[Finale] preferences and Finale 2008(mac)

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Banner
Recently I had to trash my preference file after I rearranged the main tool palette and Finale kept crashing on me. Now that I trashed my preference file, is it possible to take all my preferences from a current Finale document and transfer all those settings directly into Maestro Font Defa

Re: [Finale] OT: Ophecleide

2009-08-31 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
If memory serves me right the Verdi quote is from a communication with the association of Italian opera houses, which strived to uniform the orchestration of the period opera scores, so that composers had all parts covered and orchestras had no superfluous members. I once had access to the scor

Re: [Finale] OT: Ophecleide

2009-08-31 Thread dhbailey
Ray Horton wrote: [snip]> The most astounding conclusion/discovery of Meucci, to me, is that in Verdi's famous 1871 letter prior to _Aida_: "That bombardon is not a possibility... I cherish a [valved] Trombone Basso because it is of the same family as the others; but if it should be too tir