Re: [Finale] The Finale nail in the coffin

2009-10-04 Thread Mark D Lew
On Oct 3, 2009, at 2:24 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Finale *users*, on the other hand, can get off the treadmill any time they want. I've for years argued that the knee-jerk upgrade is silly, except for the pro engravers who need to keep up with the current version and need to exchange files

Re: [Finale] The Finale nail in the coffin

2009-10-04 Thread David W. Fenton
On 4 Oct 2009 at 8:17, Aaron Sherber wrote: On 10/3/2009 10:08 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On the other hand, for those of us who do our engraving gratis, there's no amount of hours saved multiplied by an hourly rate of $0 that will offset the upgrade price. Actually, you're looking at

Re: [Finale] The Finale nail in the coffin

2009-10-04 Thread David W. Fenton
On 4 Oct 2009 at 9:30, Eric Dannewitz wrote: On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Phil Daley p_da...@tds.net wrote: I agree with David.  I only work for my own purposes (both choirs and instrumental groups) and can't afford the upgrade prices. That's why I am still using V 3.7.2.  Meets my

Re: [Finale] The Finale nail in the coffin

2009-10-04 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Its not so much of WOULD I want to run an OS 9 program, but rather, I can't. I have no more machines that run OS 9. And I don't regret that at all. I don't want to still be carrying around a 1991 GSM mobile phone because it still works. Same for Finale. I paid for an upgrade to be able to run on

Re: [Finale] The Finale nail in the coffin

2009-10-04 Thread David W. Fenton
On 4 Oct 2009 at 12:49, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Its not so much of WOULD I want to run an OS 9 program, but rather, I can't. I have no more machines that run OS 9. And I don't regret that at all. The only significant word in your three sentences is *I*. Phil *does* want to run the old

Re: [Finale] you can't be serious... (tobias?!?!?!)

2009-10-04 Thread shirling neueweise
goddammit!! i had read the version history and not the main page, so i thought 2.45b was the latest version. hooley, thanks! You need the latest version of TGTools that's compatible with expressions in Finale 2009. Sounds like you're using an older version.

Re: [Finale] you can't be serious... (tobias?!?!?!)

2009-10-04 Thread shirling neueweise
(grumblegrumblegrumblegrumblegrumblegrumble) new version of TGTools works as expected... fuu-cryinoutloud. man, i just finished most of the work i needed it for ARGH!!! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] you can't be serious... (tobias?!?!?!)

2009-10-04 Thread Carl Dershem
shirling neueweise wrote: (grumblegrumblegrumblegrumblegrumblegrumble) new version of TGTools works as expected... fuu-cryinoutloud. man, i just finished most of the work i needed it for ARGH!!! Murphy watches out for us all. cd --

[Finale] show/hide in linked parts (2010)

2009-10-04 Thread shirling neueweise
for some reason, cmd-ctl top pull up the menu isn't working, is this a bug? i'm trying to hide score-specific titles in the parts and what worked in 2008 is not working for me here. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] show/hide in linked parts (2010)

2009-10-04 Thread Darcy James Argue
The override key doesn't work on the contextual menus in Fin2009 and 2010. I hate it too. Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn, NY On 4 Oct 2009, at 5:56 PM, shirling neueweise wrote: for some reason, cmd-ctl top pull up the menu isn't working, is this a bug? i'm

Re: [Finale] OT: minor 6th

2009-10-04 Thread Christopher Smith
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Re: [Finale] show/hide in linked parts (2010)

2009-10-04 Thread shirling neueweise
jesus christ, they took an already not-entirely-functional tool and made it worse?!?! how do you get around it? and any related things i might not have come across yet? The override key doesn't work on the contextual menus in Fin2009 and 2010. I hate it too.

Re: [Finale] show/hide in linked parts (2010)

2009-10-04 Thread shirling neueweise
manual sez it should The override key doesn't work on the contextual menus in Fin2009 and 2010. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

[Finale] pfffffffff... selecting systems in layout tool (2010)

2009-10-04 Thread shirling neueweise
it used to be possible to click on systems and have the edit box show the margins etc. of the selection... when i od this now, it works for the 1st time, then it doesn't work (unless i switch tools and back!!!), or clicking anywhere gives me the edit box for system 5?!?!

Re: [Finale] pfffffffff... selecting systems in layout tool (2010)

2009-10-04 Thread shirling neueweise
jesus, this is spectacular, i can't insert a page break wityhout switching out of the page layout tool and giong back, if i have edited ant system margins... it used to be possible to click on systems and have the edit box show the margins etc. of the selection... when i od this now, it

Re: [Finale] pfffffffff... selecting systems in layout tool (2010)

2009-10-04 Thread Eric Dannewitz
No no, these are all IMPROVEMENTS that MakeMusic has put into Finale 2010. They did extensive testing with it's user base on this. ;-) On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 3:45 PM, shirling neueweise shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote: jesus, this is spectacular, i can't insert a page break wityhout

[Finale] updating

2009-10-04 Thread Martin Banner
Thanks to all of you for your posts on Finale 2010, with and without Mac Snow Leopard. Thanks to all of the reported problems, I've decided to stay put with Finale 2008 (took me years to upgrade to that from Finale 2003) and Mac OSx.5.8. Martin Martin Banner mban...@hvc.rr.com

Re: [Finale] updating

2009-10-04 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Really? Wow. I updated my 2006 iMac with 10.6 and I notice a difference in speed of the machine, and in Finale 2007. And I haven't had any issues with it so far. On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Martin Banner mban...@hvc.rr.com wrote: Thanks to all of you for your posts on Finale 2010, with and

[Finale] grrrrrrrrrrr... tempo markings only on top staff!?!??!?!

2009-10-04 Thread shirling neueweise
this is nuts. to take advantage of the categories (which i must say i find absolutely spectacular) you can only assign an expression to score or score and parts, and you can/t force it to appear on for example, the top of the violin I stave in the score without creating a new identical

Re: [Finale] pfffffffff... selecting systems in layout tool (2010)

2009-10-04 Thread Mark D Lew
I've seen some crazy dynamic markings, but pf is a new one to me! mdl ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] updating

2009-10-04 Thread shirling neueweise
man holy crap, let me add my voice to that, i am really smashing my head against the wall here with 2010, but was able to at least work in 2008. 2010 is seriously screwing me for an upcoming deadline. since i am unfamiliar as i should be with 2010 i would have done this job in 2008, if it

Re: [Finale] pfffffffff... selecting systems in layout tool (2010)

2009-10-04 Thread shirling neueweise
I've seen some crazy dynamic markings, but pf is a new one to me! hey man, it's called new music (yuk yuk yuk) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] pfffffffff... selecting systems in layout tool (2010)

2009-10-04 Thread Carl Dershem
Mark D Lew wrote: I've seen some crazy dynamic markings, but pf is a new one to me! I've run across it in performance, but it's kind of messy! :o cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale

Re: [Finale] grrrrrrrrrrr... tempo markings only on top staff!?!??!?!

2009-10-04 Thread shirling neueweise
no jef, staff list is available through positioning section of the categories, yeah yeah yeah. look before you scream 8-) this is nuts. to take advantage of the categories (which i must say i find absolutely spectacular) you can only assign an expression to score or score and parts, and

Re: [Finale] show/hide in linked parts (2010)

2009-10-04 Thread shirling neueweise
so... cmd-sh-h hides in all when in score or part cmd-opt-sh-h hides in current part when in part cmd-opt-sh-h hides in all when in score (here is the error?) cmd-sh-h makes text hidden in all when in score if text block is hidden cmd-sh-h does nothing when in part if text block is hidden

Re: [Finale] show/hide in linked parts (2010)

2009-10-04 Thread shirling neueweise
ah! one solution, drag the SC text off page, THEN unlink it and drag it back onto the score page. this also solves the problem of frames not being hidden in parts that belong to unshown text. yeah! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

[Finale] Transposing instrument key change

2009-10-04 Thread Ryan Beard
I have a tune in A major (3 sharps). The alto sax part is in F# (6 sharps). I'd like to put the alto part in 6 flats instead. Simplify Key is already checked in the staff attributes dialogue, but that doesn't affect a 6-symbol key signature. Is there an easy way to get what I want? I've tried