{Spam} Re: [Finale] No key signature yet keep playback ability

2011-01-01 Thread Rafael L. Junchaya
Thanks, Robert, no need to reply, I found your earlier post: I sent a similar reply a while back, but I never saw it come thru. For music without a key sig, use Chromatic Transposition. For must with a key sig. use standard Transposition as follows: 1. Set the horn staves to Independent Key Sig

Re: [Finale] No key signature yet keep playback ability

2011-01-01 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Robert, Chromatic Transposition is still a bit buggy, especially when using Staff Styles (for woodwind doubles, for instance) rather than Staff Attributes. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 1 Jan 2011, at 4:55 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: > Finale correctly han

Re: [Finale] No key signature yet keep playback ability

2011-01-01 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Chris, I don't have the email and I don't recall exactly what the issues were -- but the issues have all changed since the introduction of linked parts, so most of what I said is probably obsolete now. The biggest issue is that I have learned by experience never to use the 9 key to flip enha

Re: [Finale] No key signature yet keep playback ability

2011-01-01 Thread Robert Patterson
True, but I believe there continue to be other issues with speedy-9 as well, unrelated to transposition, so avoiding it is good policy. And if you avoid it, then (along with other issues) you want have any problems with C.T. Right? On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Christopher Smith < christopher.s

Re: [Finale] No key signature yet keep playback ability

2011-01-01 Thread Christopher Smith
You may identify it as Speedy 9-flip bug (as do I!) but there it is, manifesting itself when using Chromatic Transposition. It doesn't manifest itself (in this particular way!) when the part uses normal transposition, so I would say it is indeed a Chromatic Transposition issue. One needs to watc

Re: [Finale] No key signature yet keep playback ability

2011-01-01 Thread Robert Patterson
Since the introduction of Finale 2007, I *never* use the 9 key to enharmonic flip. I *always* use the +/- keys for notes like Cb. I do not see this as a bug with Chromatic Transposition per se, but rather with the Speedy 9 key. In F07 they "fixed" a whole bunch of stuff that wasn't broken, Speedy 9

Re: [Finale] No key signature yet keep playback ability

2011-01-01 Thread Christopher Smith
Here's one. open a new file using the Setup Wizard. Add Bb clarinet. Switch to Display in Concert Pitch. Enter in the staff quarter notes (using Speedy) Eb, Db, Cb (you will have to flip this one with the 9 key, which is what causes the problem. If you DON'T flip it, the problem does not appea

Re: [Finale] No key signature yet keep playback ability

2011-01-01 Thread Robert Patterson
You'll have to give me chapter and verse (provided the concert key of the piece is C maj) because I don't think you are right. In my experience Chromatic Transposition does not have any bugs that cause required accidentals either to be omitted or incorrect. On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Christop

Re: [Finale] No key signature yet keep playback ability

2011-01-01 Thread Christopher Smith
No, Finale doesn't handle accidentals correctly on parts using Chromatic Transposition, especially if you have flipped accidentals with the 9 key in Speedy or run the Cautionary Accidentals plugin or try to Respell notes on a chromatically-transposed part. For those three I can give you chapter

Re: [Finale] No key signature yet keep playback ability

2011-01-01 Thread Robert Patterson
Finale correctly handles all accidentals if you use Chromatic Transposition, provided the piece as a whole does not have a key signature. If the piece as a whole does have a key signature, you should not be using Chromatic Transposition. There is a better way in that case. On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 5

Re: [Finale] No key signature yet keep playback ability

2011-01-01 Thread Christopher Smith
Darcy, You sent me a summary of the issues with accidentals when using Chromatic Transposition once a while ago, and I regret to say that I have misplaced it. For me (and so that I can check if it is still the case and thus harass MakeMusic about it) could you summarise again? Go ahead and send

Re: [Finale] No key signature yet keep playback ability

2011-01-01 Thread Christopher Smith
Actually, though your link is very useful if you only want SOME parts not to have key signatures, it is more complicated than you need if NO part in the score has a key signature. This is what you should do. Set the global key to C in your score (it probably already is, no sharps no flats). F

Re: [Finale] No key signature yet keep playback ability

2011-01-01 Thread Darcy James Argue
It helps by doing exactly what you want. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 1 Jan 2011, at 1:21 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > > Chromatic Transposition? How is that going to help? > So, if I have a jazz band score, that has something like 3 sharps in the > Alto

Re: [Finale] No key signature yet keep playback ability

2011-01-01 Thread Robert Patterson
That's what Chromatic Transposition is for. Did you try it? On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > > Chromatic Transposition? How is that going to help? > So, if I have a jazz band score, that has something like 3 sharps in the > Altos, and 2 in the trumpets, but that is no

{Spam} Re: [Finale] No key signature yet keep playback ability

2011-01-01 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Eric Dannewitz wrote: Is there a simple way to keep a score/parts transposed but have the key signature be nothing? One simple way is to uncheck "Key signature" in the list of "items to display" in the staff attribute dialog box, but this may be an option that must be chosen when one starts

Re: [Finale] No key signature yet keep playback ability

2011-01-01 Thread Darcy James Argue
Staff Attributes -> Transposition -> Chromatic. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 1 Jan 2011, at 12:51 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > So I've been asked to make some SmartMusic versions of some jazz band > arrangements I did. However, I did them without a key signatu

Re: [Finale] No key signature yet keep playback ability

2011-01-01 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Nevermind, I found how to do it here http://www.specialmillwork.com/finaletips/FHornNoKeySig.pdf ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] No key signature yet keep playback ability

2011-01-01 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Chromatic Transposition? How is that going to help? So, if I have a jazz band score, that has something like 3 sharps in the Altos, and 2 in the trumpets, but that is not really what key everything is in, and I just want the accidentals next to the notes but I don't want a key signa

Re: [Finale] No key signature yet keep playback ability

2011-01-01 Thread Robert Patterson
Chromatic Transposition. On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > So I've been asked to make some SmartMusic versions of some jazz band > arrangements I did. However, I did them without a key signature, so when I > play them back it sounds something like Schoenberg drunk meets Hind

[Finale] No key signature yet keep playback ability

2011-01-01 Thread Eric Dannewitz
So I've been asked to make some SmartMusic versions of some jazz band arrangements I did. However, I did them without a key signature, so when I play them back it sounds something like Schoenberg drunk meets Hindemith and collaborate on doing a remake of Sound Of Music in the style of a drunken

[Finale] Chord symbol New Year

2011-01-01 Thread JClevESM
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