Re: [Finale] Bill Duncan chord suffix woes

2012-12-17 Thread Girard Bowe
I print-screened the chord suffix selection pages and keep them at hand. I have the most common ones memorized. If you load different chord libraries, or delete chords, that will affect the numbering. Giz Richmond VA |-Original Message- |From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun..

Re: [Finale] Notation bug

2012-12-17 Thread SN jef chippewa
always here to help >Thank you for your input. >It clarifies a lot! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Notation bug

2012-12-17 Thread Jón Kristinn Cortez
Thank you for your input. It clarifies a lot! Cortez On 18.12.2012, at 01:29, SN jef chippewa wrote: > >> I understand your point. So I wonder, why use a time-signature at >> all if it does not have any meaning! > > there was a meaning if you wanted to see it. why bother to make a > rep

Re: [Finale] Notation bug

2012-12-17 Thread SN jef chippewa
>I understand your point. So I wonder, why use a time-signature at >all if it does not have any meaning! there was a meaning if you wanted to see it. why bother to make a reponse at all if it does not have any meaning! ___ Finale mailing list Finale

Re: [Finale] Notation bug

2012-12-17 Thread Jón Kristinn Cortez
Thank you and good night (00:32 my time!) Greetings, Cortez On 18.12.2012, at 00:25, Darcy James Argue wrote: > Because you need some way to organize the music into units. Music without > time signatures, or with extremely long measures (like, say, 11/2) is > extraordinarily difficult to read

Re: [Finale] Notation bug

2012-12-17 Thread Darcy James Argue
Because you need some way to organize the music into units. Music without time signatures, or with extremely long measures (like, say, 11/2) is extraordinarily difficult to read. So you pick the time signature that organizes and communicates the music in the most legible way for the greatest nu

Re: [Finale] Notation bug

2012-12-17 Thread Jón Kristinn Cortez
I understand your point. So I wonder, why use a time-signature at all if it does not have any meaning! Cortez On 17.12.2012, at 23:59, Darcy James Argue wrote: > Hi Cortez, > > My reasons are perfectly logical, as I explained, and are the best solution > for the musicians I work with. > >

Re: [Finale] Notation bug

2012-12-17 Thread Raymond Horton
In Finale 2011, when I enter 6/4 as 6 quarter notes and change to slash notation, I get six slashes. Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Jón Kristinn Cor

Re: [Finale] Notation bug

2012-12-17 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Cortez, My reasons are perfectly logical, as I explained, and are the best solution for the musicians I work with. In a contemporary context, people employ odd subdivisions of meters *all the time* without changing time signatures. 4/4 is very often subdivided 3+3+2. 3/4 is very often sub

Re: [Finale] Notation bug

2012-12-17 Thread Jón Kristinn Cortez
There is no logical reason to have 6/4 doing double duty; being both a duple and triple meter is confusing. In the example you state I would have written 4 bars 4/4 and one 2/4. By your way I would always have to check where the beat is in 6/4. What about 3/4 and 6/8? Cortez On 17.12.2012, a

Re: [Finale] Notation bug

2012-12-17 Thread Darcy James Argue
That is the traditional view. My own view is that 6/4 with the half note getting the beat is perfectly acceptable and logical in a modern context, especially if you're dealing with a mix of, e.g., 4/4 and 6/4. I have a piece where the time signature pattern is always 3 bars of 4/4 followed by

Re: [Finale] Notation bug

2012-12-17 Thread Jón Kristinn Cortez
Three beats with a half note for the beat is 3/2, can never be 6/4 Cortez On 17.12.2012, at 22:39, Darcy James Argue wrote: > Hi William, > > It's not a bug. Traditionally, 6/4 is a compound meter -- two beats per > measure, dotted half note has the beat. That's why Finale shows only two

[Finale] Test

2012-12-17 Thread Jón Kristinn Cortez
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Re: [Finale] Notation bug

2012-12-17 Thread Ryan
I would add that a better choice for a time signature in this case might be 3/2, rather than 6/4. Perhaps William wants six slashes in 6/4? That can also be taken care of in the Time Signature dialogue box. On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: > Hi William, > > It's not a bug

Re: [Finale] Notation bug

2012-12-17 Thread Raymond Horton
William, Your 6/4 must be defined as 2 dotted halfs. Change it with Time Sig tool to 6 quarters. Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 5:30 PM, William Sinclair

Re: [Finale] Notation bug

2012-12-17 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi William, It's not a bug. Traditionally, 6/4 is a compound meter -- two beats per measure, dotted half note has the beat. That's why Finale shows only two slashes (and will add dots if you have "add dots to slashes in compound meter checked). If you want your 6/4 to be three beats per measur

[Finale] Notation bug

2012-12-17 Thread William Sinclair
I have not seen this before. Have any of you? When I have a measure of 6/4, and I use SLASH notation, it puts only 2 slashes for a 6/4 measure. Is there a way around this problem? I want to avoid a HAND edit. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu htt

Re: [Finale] Bill Duncan chord suffix woes

2012-12-17 Thread Mike Casteel
Thanks Darcy! You and Chuck were the ones I had hoped to hear from about this. Unfortunately, it looks like we're stuck. I had already taken all of the steps you mentioned below. I had just hoped that I had missed a step in the process. Bummer. Thanks again to Doug for refreshing my memory abou

Re: [Finale] Bill Duncan chord suffix woes

2012-12-17 Thread Mike Casteel
Thanks for the tip, Doug. I will definitely be using this until we (hopefully) find a solution. It makes no sense to me how creating it in the chord definition dialog box garners the desired results but in other places there seems to be this disconnect. Nick Carter even sent me an updated font

Re: [Finale] Bill Duncan chord suffix woes

2012-12-17 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Mike, Adding Unicode support to Finale 2012 has, uh, "complicated" the use of Bill Duncan's fonts, which have always been a bit buggy from a font-encoding perspective. First, quit Finale, then make sure all the Duncan fonts are listed in the MacSymbolFonts.txt document -- located at ~/Libra

Re: [Finale] Bill Duncan chord suffix woes

2012-12-17 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi Doug, I do remember I used to do it this way, but it stopped working when I forgot that I needed to include the colon. Thanks for the reminder. This can be quicker if you memorize the slots for complex suffixes, so I will find this useful for things like 7#5#9 too. Thanks again, Chuck

Re: [Finale] Bill Duncan chord suffix woes

2012-12-17 Thread Doug Walter
Hi Chuck and Mike, While this won't solve the underlying issue you're both talking about, I thought it would be worth mentioning another input method that can work in these situations that doesn't require using the mouse (which you may already know about). The drag is that is requires memorizin

Re: [Finale] Bill Duncan chord suffix woes

2012-12-17 Thread Chuck Israels
I have a similar problem with sus4 suffixes. I assumed that it was because of the special keystrokes required to create the superscript text, key combinations I don't have reason to remember after having created the suffixes I need. I always have to enter those suffixes by going into dialog bo

[Finale] Bill Duncan chord suffix woes

2012-12-17 Thread Mike Casteel
Hello all, I have encountered a problem with Bill Duncan's ChordSuf font- namely the (addX) suffix (it is not recognized, even if it is already in my library when "typing into score"). I can create it easily if I enter it manually (in the chord definition dialog box) but if I "type into score"