Re: [Finale] "Hard" hyphen question

2014-04-01 Thread John Roberts
Well, I am totally confused by the character viewer in Mac OSX. I use the opt- and opt-shift characters I learned long ago (OS6 or so) and that's as far as I get, still using the old PostScript Type 2 fonts where I have them, but gradually moving towards TrueType and the OSX pre-installed versi

Re: [Finale] "Hard" hyphen question

2014-03-31 Thread Christopher Smith
I did a test. The punctuation called "hyphen" in the Character Viewer is higher than the the hyphen Finale uses in the Lyric Tool. The punctuation called "non-breaking hyphen" is exactly the same character as the "hyphen" in Character Viewer, with the same positioning. Finale apparently uses a

Re: [Finale] "Hard" hyphen question

2014-03-31 Thread John Roberts
It looks like a simple en-dash to me. (I took it as an instruction to type an en-dash for someone who might not know what an en-dash is). John John On 3/31/14, 10:30 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: > In the Text menu when you are typing lyrics, there is a command "insert hard > hyphen" for which

Re: [Finale] "Hard" hyphen question

2014-03-31 Thread Ryan Beard
I would probably just enter a regular hyphen in a measure attached text box. It'll always move with the layout, but you might have to adjust. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 31, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Christopher Smith > wrote: > > In the Text menu when you are typing lyrics, there is a command "ins

Re: [Finale] "Hard" hyphen question

2014-03-31 Thread Ryan Beard
Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 31, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Christopher Smith > wrote: > > In the Text menu when you are typing lyrics, there is a command "insert hard > hyphen" for which the keystroke is opt-hyphen. It is the same length as a > hyphen (which beats the last opt-hyphen which was an e

Re: [Finale] "Hard" hyphen question

2014-03-31 Thread Christopher Smith
In the Text menu when you are typing lyrics, there is a command "insert hard hyphen" for which the keystroke is opt-hyphen. It is the same length as a hyphen (which beats the last opt-hyphen which was an en-dash, not an em-dash), but seems to be set a trifle higher in Times New Roman. Christoph

Re: [Finale] "Hard" hyphen question

2014-03-31 Thread Chuck Israels
I never learned what Unicode is. Does the fact that it is supported mean that there is indeed a "hard" hyphen keystroke somewhere that looks better than the em dash (which looks to me better than nothing)? I will do some research when I return from dinner. This must be on the web somewhere but

Re: [Finale] "Hard" hyphen question

2014-03-31 Thread Bruce Kau
Unicode is supported, i think since 2012. not sure. On 3/31/2014 10:51 AM, Mark D Lew wrote: >> Mark - it's been a while! Nice to know you are still here. > Thanks, Chuck. > > I don't do much engraving these days (or much music at all, really), but I've > stayed subscribed to the list and I still

Re: [Finale] "Hard" hyphen question

2014-03-31 Thread Mark D Lew
>Mark - it's been a while! Nice to know you are still here. Thanks, Chuck. I don't do much engraving these days (or much music at all, really), but I've stayed subscribed to the list and I still skim the subject lines as they flow through my email inbox. mdl _

Re: [Finale] "Hard" hyphen question

2014-03-31 Thread Chuck Israels
Mark - it's been a while! Nice to know you are still here. Chuck On Mar 31, 2014, at 1:39 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: >> I'm not so picky. Opt-hyphen seems to look good to my eye, at least on the >> screen. > > I've been out of the loop for a while. Can Finale handle Unicode in lyrics > yet?

Re: [Finale] "Hard" hyphen question

2014-03-31 Thread Mark D Lew
>I'm not so picky. Opt-hyphen seems to look good to my eye, at least on the >screen. I've been out of the loop for a while. Can Finale handle Unicode in lyrics yet? If not, then it's a good thing you're not picky, because Mac doesn't have a non-breaking hyphen like Windows does. So if you ca

Re: [Finale] "Hard" hyphen question

2014-03-31 Thread Chuck Israels
I'm not so picky. Opt-hyphen seems to look good to my eye, at least on the screen. Grateful for all the help. On Mar 31, 2014, at 11:13 AM, John Roberts wrote: > There is a difference. Opt-hyphen gives an n-dash, depending on the font > this may be longer, sometimes thinner, but not the sam

Re: [Finale] "Hard" hyphen question

2014-03-31 Thread John Roberts
There is a difference. Opt-hyphen gives an n-dash, depending on the font this may be longer, sometimes thinner, but not the same as a regular hyphen. Sometimes I prefer to add the hyphen graphically, as an expression or articulation. But of course, then you have to keep track of it if the layou

Re: [Finale] "Hard" hyphen question

2014-03-31 Thread Chuck Israels
Thank you, Dennis and Don. Chuck On Mar 31, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Don Hart wrote: > Hi Chuck, > > An option-hyphen should do the trick. Winds up being two different words, > I guess, as Finale sees it. I think that will work for you. > > Don Hart > > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Chuc

Re: [Finale] "Hard" hyphen question

2014-03-31 Thread Don Hart
Hi Chuck, An option-hyphen should do the trick. Winds up being two different words, I guess, as Finale sees it. I think that will work for you. Don Hart On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: > Does anyone know how to force a hyphen to show when the word is divided > between

Re: [Finale] "Hard" hyphen question

2014-03-31 Thread Chuck Israels
Ah - that's PC. There must be a corresponding Mac keystroke. On Mar 31, 2014, at 10:49 AM, dc wrote: > Le 31/03/2014 19:35, Chuck Israels écrit : >> Does anyone know how to force a hyphen to show when the word is divided >> between endings? The word in the second verse starts before the seco

[Finale] "Hard" hyphen question

2014-03-31 Thread Chuck Israels
Does anyone know how to force a hyphen to show when the word is divided between endings? The word in the second verse starts before the second ending and ends in the second ending (but the baseline for the continuation is the same as for the first verse - no reason for it to be lower, as it is