Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-24 Thread dhbailey
Eric Dannewitz wrote: What does that mean, making some business decisions? Stopping development? Sale? And the Revere font is off the table? Why couldn't they at least make the font available for use with Finale or Sibelius for a small fee? Development stopped a long time ago -- and the

Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-24 Thread Scot Hanna-Weir
Title: Re: [Finale] BC font This is on a mac with 2006a: That reminds me of a problem weve had just recently in postscript output. The null space in our times font will print correctly from the application file but when we take it to postscript and distill, there is no longer a null space

Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-23 Thread Eric Dannewitz
What does that mean, making some business decisions? Stopping development? Sale? And the Revere font is off the table? Why couldn't they at least make the font available for use with Finale or Sibelius for a small fee? Doesn't sound good regardless... Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Hi

Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-23 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:03 PM 4/23/06 -0700, Eric Dannewitz wrote: What does that mean, making some business decisions? Stopping development? Sale? It's nothing sinister, but I have to treat the conversation as confidential. I do know that the investment of time and effort in Graphire was substantial, sincere,

Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-23 Thread Eric Dannewitz
I remember when I bought Graphire, the owner/developer personally called me and we talked about Engraving and what not. I was a young College student then. I used it for a couple of projects, but then decided to pursue Finale more because that is what everyone was using at school. Still, when

Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-23 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
I hear the same things about Lily Pond.. it's so good, it's the best thing since sliced bread. But when you ask for samples of where people are using it a lot for day to day work stuff, there's just not that many samples. Kim Patrick Clow On 4/23/06, dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Dannewitz

Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-23 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:41 PM 4/23/06 +0200, dc wrote: People used to say the same thing about Score. What is it that looked so good and that can't be done in Finale (besides the font issues)? Are there any of these amazing samples to be seen anywhere? http://www.graphire.com/Pages/Framesets/framesmpexam.htm One

Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-23 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:41 PM 4/23/06 +0200, dc wrote: People used to say the same thing about Score. What is it that looked so good and that can't be done in Finale (besides the font issues)? Are there any of these amazing samples to be seen anywhere? You'll also notice how beautiful the display is for such

Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-22 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:48 PM 4/21/06 +0200, dc wrote: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz écrit: Here are the two side-by-side: http://maltedmedia.com/bathory/music/pdf/clouds-endless-summer.pdf http://maltedmedia.com/bathory/music/pdf/clouds-endless-summer-maestro.pdf Thanks for the comparison. Quite interesting. But I'm not

Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-22 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 01:41 PM 4/22/06 +0200, dc wrote: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz écrit: At first, that's what I thought, though not in the double-negative, of course. :) I was used to Maestro. The Revere noteheads do seem to look clunkier on the screen, but when the score is printed, it appears more uniform and less

[off-list] Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-21 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:26 PM 4/20/06 -0700, you wrote: You know, I owned Graphire Music Press once upon a time. I still have the little doggle and disk as well. Since you own GMP, you can have a copy of the font. Not sure if you can use it directly, as it's a Windows TrueType binary and I believe you use a Mac.

Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-21 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Hit CTL-T by accident... I was saying that it was a lot of work, but I had to know if it was the Revere font or Graphire's spacing algorithms that made Graphire pages look so good. Since I'm using a good-looking template (not one of Finale's) for spacing, together with Patterson and TGTools

Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-21 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:26 PM 4/20/06 -0700, Eric Dannewitz wrote: You know, I owned Graphire Music Press once upon a time. I still have the little doggle and disk as well. What did you do to get it to work with Finale? Did you have to create Font Annotation? It was a lot of work, bu The items had to be

Re: [off-list] Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-21 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Snagged twice in one session by CTL-T ... ack. Gonna get some coffee. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-21 Thread David W. Fenton
On 20 Apr 2006 at 21:15, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Here's one of mine done in RevereFinale (please don't mind the resolution ... I use 600dpi for downloads): http://maltedmedia.com/people/bathory/music/pdf/clouds-endless-summer. pdf A couple of comments: 1. the first thing that struck

Re: [off-list] Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-21 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Um, Graphire was a Mac program. I don't ever remember it being a Windows program. Let me check to see if the font is still in my System 9 directory and if I can convert it. Though, doesn't one still need to have a Font Annotation for it? I thought www.finaletips.nu had it once upon a time.

Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-21 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Wow, that sounds like a lot of work. I'd be interested in seeing perhaps a score done in both Maestro and Graphire's font to see what the differences are (note sizes, etc). Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 10:26 PM 4/20/06 -0700, Eric Dannewitz wrote: You know, I owned Graphire Music Press

Re: [off-list] Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-21 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:58 AM 4/21/06 -0700, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Um, Graphire was a Mac program. I don't ever remember it being a Windows program. You must have an old version! Development of GMP was entirely being done in Windows in the last two years, with the Mac version following. Dennis

Re: [off-list] Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-21 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Erg, um, I suppose so then. I think I bought it in 1996. According to the manual (which I found), I have version 0.7.7 and it says it can be installed on any computer with a 68020, 68030, 68040, or PowerPC processor. Wowbrings back memories Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At

Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-21 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:01 AM 4/21/06 -0700, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Wow, that sounds like a lot of work. I'd be interested in seeing perhaps a score done in both Maestro and Graphire's font to see what the differences are (note sizes, etc). Here are the two side-by-side:

Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-21 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:06 PM 4/21/06 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: 1. the first thing that struck me was the left alignment of the treble and bass clef fonts. I looked at Finale, which seems to do something more like centering them. Perhaps this is something that needs to be tweaked in your adapted font?

Re: [off-list] Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-21 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:22 AM 4/21/06 -0700, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Erg, um, I suppose so then. I think I bought it in 1996. According to the manual (which I found), I have version 0.7.7 The last release version was 9.1.0 in 2003. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [off-list] Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-21 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Seriously??? Wow. I'm like..9 or more versions behind? Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 10:22 AM 4/21/06 -0700, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Erg, um, I suppose so then. I think I bought it in 1996. According to the manual (which I found), I have version 0.7.7 The last release version

Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-21 Thread Barbara Touburg
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Nobody pays me to do my stuff. :( Next year they will. At least, some of them. B ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-21 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 21, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Nobody pays me to do my stuff. :( Hey, I am! (among others!) Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [off-list] Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-21 Thread dhbailey
Eric Dannewitz wrote: Um, Graphire was a Mac program. I don't ever remember it being a Windows program. Well, it might not have been a Windows program but they marketed a Windows version. ;-) -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale

Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-21 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 02:08 PM 4/21/06 -0400, Christopher Smith wrote: On Apr 21, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Nobody pays me to do my stuff. :( Hey, I am! (among others!) Okay, okay. I mean *yet*. :) (For those who wonder what Barbara and Christopher mean, see my sig.) Dennis -- Please

Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-20 Thread Barbara Touburg
Johannes Gebauer wrote: For the moment, as far as figured bass is concerned, the only workable solution is a special font in the lyrics tool. I already suggested you look at Ansgar's fonts. I have used his for a while and have since created my own, which I think works better, but follows the

Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-20 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 20.04.2006 Barbara Touburg wrote: Johannes, would you be willing to share this font? I can't. It's based on non-public-domain fonts. So is Ansgar's, by the way, but perhaps I am more concerned about such things. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com

Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-20 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:49 AM 4/21/06 +0200, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I can't. It's based on non-public-domain fonts. So is Ansgar's, by the way, but perhaps I am more concerned about such things. Speaking of fonts we can't share yet, I have made a Finale-compatible version of Revere for myself. Since Graphire

Re: [Finale] BC font

2006-04-20 Thread Eric Dannewitz
You know, I owned Graphire Music Press once upon a time. I still have the little doggle and disk as well. What did you do to get it to work with Finale? Did you have to create Font Annotation? Always loved the output from that program Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 12:49 AM 4/21/06