Re: [Finale] Brahms, Dvorak and Ragtime

2007-08-08 Thread Bruce E. Clausen
Personally, I've always heard "Turkey in the Straw" in the New World first movement! BC - Original Message - From: "Andrew Stiller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Brahms, Dvorak and Ragtime

Re: [Finale] Brahms, Dvorak and Ragtime

2007-08-08 Thread Andrew Stiller
When I was young, I was certain that the ending of the "New World" symphony was boogie-woogie. Anachronistic of course, but it is now generally accepted that D. really did make use of music he heard from the Fiske Jubilee Singers, at least as a model. As to conjectures abt. how ragtime

RE: [Finale] Brahms, Dvorak and Ragtime

2007-08-08 Thread Richard Smith
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raymond Horton Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 12:46 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Brahms, Dvorak and Ragtime Aaron Rabushka wrote: > Aaron J. Rabushka > who still doesn't like the Brahms violin concerto and wonders wh

Re: [Finale] Brahms, Dvorak and Ragtime

2007-08-08 Thread arabushk
Yes, Dvorak's rhythm has a verve and bounce (the scherzo/dumka of the 7th symphony comes to mind) that is very distinct from Brahms. Lively yes, but not ragtime. Now that you mention it the 2nd theme of the New World may be a "Peacherine"-type tune with its emphatic downbeats, even if the presentat

Re: [Finale] Brahms, Dvorak and Ragtime

2007-08-08 Thread Raymond Horton
Aaron Rabushka wrote: Aaron J. Rabushka who still doesn't like the Brahms violin concerto and wonders what would've happened had ragtime fallen into the hands of Tchaikovsky (bigoted as he was) or Dvorák That's what came to my mind, when I read that possible quote of Brahms concernin