Re: [Finale] Brahms and inspiration

2007-08-08 Thread Aaron Rabushka
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Re: [Finale] Brahms and inspiration

2007-08-08 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Aug 8, 2007, at 6:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm...I'd always heard that B Franklin was a deist rather than an atheist. From what I know of him (and I've read the standard biograpy) he just wasn't interested in anything that did not have a practical application. Which would make

Re: [Finale] Brahms and inspiration

2007-08-08 Thread Andrew Stiller
Well, I understand that Berlioz was an agnostic, and Mozart mostly went to church so he could play the organ You're right RE Berlioz, at least, but the problem with figuring out who might have been an atheist or not is that it was downright dangerous to take such a stance before

Re: [Finale] Brahms and inspiration

2007-08-08 Thread arabushk
Hmm...I'd always heard that B Franklin was a deist rather than an atheist. Many composers have reached outside of their religious tradition in their work (e.g., my Episcopalian evensong liturgy), so it often is hard to tell. Aaron J. Rabushka [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.waymark.net/arabushk __

Re: [Finale] Brahms and inspiration

2007-08-08 Thread Raymond Horton
Richard Smith wrote: I have seen it written that Dvorak returned from a visit with Brahms quite upset because Brahms was "such a great man and he believes in nothing, absolutely nothing." I don't know how reliable that is but it certainly puts the Brahms discussion in a different light. Richa

Re: [Finale] Brahms and inspiration

2007-08-08 Thread Christopher Smith
On Aug 8, 2007, at 11:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I understand that Berlioz was an agnostic, I used to be an agnostic, but now I'm not sure... 8-) Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listin

Re: [Finale] Brahms and inspiration

2007-08-08 Thread arabushk
Well, I understand that Berlioz was an agnostic, and Mozart mostly went to church so he could play the organ Aaron J. Rabushka [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.waymark.net/arabushk > > On Aug 8, 2007, at 9:07 AM, Richard Smith wrote: > >> I have seen it written that Dvorak returned from a vis

Re: [Finale] Brahms and inspiration

2007-08-08 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Aug 8, 2007, at 10:12 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: If I take all the religious references and substitute "inner strength", "concentration", "reflection" and "knowledge" then I find that Brahms and I are in very close agreement about how things go when one is "in the zone" (to use a hoc

Re: [Finale] Brahms and inspiration

2007-08-08 Thread Christopher Smith
On Aug 8, 2007, at 9:07 AM, Richard Smith wrote: I have seen it written that Dvorak returned from a visit with Brahms quite upset because Brahms was "such a great man and he believes in nothing, absolutely nothing." I don't know how reliable that is but it certainly puts the Brahms discuss

Re: [Finale] Brahms and inspiration

2007-08-08 Thread Richard Smith
I have seen it written that Dvorak returned from a visit with Brahms quite upset because Brahms was "such a great man and he believes in nothing, absolutely nothing." I don't know how reliable that is but it certainly puts the Brahms discussion in a different light. Richard Smith www.rgsmithmu

Re: [Finale] Brahms and inspiration

2007-08-07 Thread Raymond Horton
One paragraph (at least) was quite unclear: Joachim had to sign contracts which said he could play anything but the Brahms Concerto (written for Joachim). In other words, Brahms was greatly under appreciated during his lifetime. But Brahms knew what his place would be fifty years hence.

Re: [Finale] Brahms and inspiration

2007-08-07 Thread Raymond Horton
Andrew Levin wrote: David, Regarding the Brahms quote, I think it's in this book: Talks with Great Composers: Candid Conversations with Brahms, Puccini, Strauss, and Others by Arthur M. Abell. New York: Carol Publishing Group, Citadel Press, (1955), 1994, 182 pp. ISBN 0-8065-1565-1. Very inter

Re: [Finale] Brahms and inspiration

2007-08-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 8 Aug 2007 at 0:18, Andrew Levin wrote: > Regarding the Brahms quote, I think it's in this book: > > Talks with Great Composers: Candid Conversations with Brahms, Puccini, > Strauss, and Others by Arthur M. Abell. New York: Carol Publishing > Group, Citadel Press, (1955), 1994, 182 pp. ISBN 0-

[Finale] Brahms and inspiration

2007-08-07 Thread Andrew Levin
David, Regarding the Brahms quote, I think it's in this book: Talks with Great Composers: Candid Conversations with Brahms, Puccini, Strauss, and Others by Arthur M. Abell. New York: Carol Publishing Group, Citadel Press, (1955), 1994, 182 pp. ISBN 0-8065-1565-1. Very interesting reading, if you