Re: [Finale] Chord notation question

2013-11-14 Thread Chuck Israels
Bill Evans used to use a European 7, the one with a slash through it used to distinguish it from the European 1 that looks a lot like our 7. I got used to that as a shorthand Maj7 symbol. It worked especially well for min/Maj7 chords. Anything's good, as long as there's concensus. I'd use Bill'

Re: [Finale] Chord notation question

2013-11-14 Thread Christopher Smith
Ha ha! Yes, Darcy nailed it. Cmaj7, the Canadian variant. I saw it here in Montreal, too, and had to deal with musicians mis-reading it as Cdim7, among other things. Like the crumhorn, the serpent, and the ophecleide, the circled 7th chord has died a deserved death, only employed by dead people

Re: [Finale] Chord notation question

2013-11-13 Thread dershem
On 11/13/2013 8:43 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: > (It's an idiosyncratic shorthand for "major seventh" that only ever took hold > in Toronto.) > > Cheers, > > - DJA Yeah, that makes as much sense as any of Rob's eccentricities. :) cd === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spywar

Re: [Finale] Chord notation question

2013-11-13 Thread dershem
On 11/13/2013 8:42 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: > CMA7. > > Cheers, > > - DJA Thanks, Darcy. cd === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) http://www.pctools.com/ === _

Re: [Finale] Chord notation question

2013-11-13 Thread dershem
On 11/13/2013 8:42 PM, Doug Walter wrote: > I seem to recall occasionally seeing that mean maj7, but I can't remember for > sure. Might that make sense in context? > > Doug It might. [looking...] I see other Maj chords but no Maj7, so, yeah, it's likely. cd >> On Nov 13, 2013, at 8:09 PM, de

Re: [Finale] Chord notation question

2013-11-13 Thread Darcy James Argue
(It's an idiosyncratic shorthand for "major seventh" that only ever took hold in Toronto.) Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Nov 13, 2013, at 11:09 PM, dershem wrote: > I'm doing a chart, and the composer has some chords as "C (7)" but > instead of parentheses, t

Re: [Finale] Chord notation question

2013-11-13 Thread Doug Walter
I seem to recall occasionally seeing that mean maj7, but I can't remember for sure. Might that make sense in context? Doug > On Nov 13, 2013, at 8:09 PM, dershem wrote: > > I'm doing a chart, and the composer has some chords as "C (7)" but > instead of parentheses, the 7 is in a circle. I h

Re: [Finale] Chord notation question

2013-11-13 Thread Darcy James Argue
CMA7. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Nov 13, 2013, at 11:09 PM, dershem wrote: > I'm doing a chart, and the composer has some chords as "C (7)" but > instead of parentheses, the 7 is in a circle. I have never run across > that variant before. > What is he try

Re: [Finale] Chord notation question

2013-11-13 Thread Williams, Jim
If it's not too disruptive to your workflow, i'd save the chords on this particular chart until last if possible. Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos. > On Nov 13, 2013, at 11:36 PM, "dershem" wrote: > >> On 11/13/2013 8:21 PM, Williams, Jim wrote: >> What are the instruments p

Re: [Finale] Chord notation question

2013-11-13 Thread dershem
On 11/13/2013 8:21 PM, Williams, Jim wrote: > What are the instruments playing under that symbol? > > Or do you just have a lead sheet? > > In such cases of odd chord symbols, I've always relied on the notes under the > symbol to tell me what the odd symbol *really* means. I start with the rhythm

Re: [Finale] Chord notation question

2013-11-13 Thread Raymond Horton
The old MTV quiz show "Remote Control". Gave the world Adam Sandler On Nov 14, 2013 11:28 AM, "Raymond Horton" wrote: > "Dead. And Canadian..." Hah! > The old MTV quiz show had a category called "Dead or Canadian" - name a > celebrity, contestant would guess which: "William Shatner?" (Canadian),

Re: [Finale] Chord notation question

2013-11-13 Thread Raymond Horton
"Dead. And Canadian..." Hah! The old MTV quiz show had a category called "Dead or Canadian" - name a celebrity, contestant would guess which: "William Shatner?" (Canadian), 'William Frawley?". (Dead). On Nov 14, 2013 11:20 AM, "dershem" wrote: > On 11/13/2013 8:14 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: > > I

Re: [Finale] Chord notation question

2013-11-13 Thread Williams, Jim
What are the instruments playing under that symbol? Or do you just have a lead sheet? In such cases of odd chord symbols, I've always relied on the notes under the symbol to tell me what the odd symbol *really* means. Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos. > On Nov 13, 2013, at 1

Re: [Finale] Chord notation question

2013-11-13 Thread dershem
On 11/13/2013 8:14 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: > I would assume G7, but can you ask composer? > On Nov 14, 2013 11:10 AM, "dershem" wrote: Lost my ouija board - alas, the composer is dead. And Canadian. Don't know if that makes a difference or not. It's an old Rob McConnell chart I'm doing a n

Re: [Finale] Chord notation question

2013-11-13 Thread Raymond Horton
I would assume G7, but can you ask composer? On Nov 14, 2013 11:10 AM, "dershem" wrote: > I'm doing a chart, and the composer has some chords as "C (7)" but > instead of parentheses, the 7 is in a circle. I have never run across > that variant before. > What is he trying to specify? > > Carl >

[Finale] Chord notation question

2013-11-13 Thread dershem
I'm doing a chart, and the composer has some chords as "C (7)" but instead of parentheses, the 7 is in a circle. I have never run across that variant before. What is he trying to specify? Carl === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Sp

[Finale] Chord notation bug (?)

2012-12-19 Thread William Sinclair
Something else I noticed - I had a lead sheet with chords attached to the melody line. I tried to transpose it without changing the melody, from C major to F major, so I used "other" and specified "hold pitches modally" in the key signature menu. To my utter amazement, it transposed the chords

Re: [Finale] Chord notation

2009-06-11 Thread John Howell
I have never come across a triangle with a dash under it. What does it mean? I've gone on record before as opposing the use of the dash or hyphen, which I realize is fully established in jazz notation, because it can have two different meanings and can therefore be ambiguous. For example, C-

Re: [Finale] Chord notation

2009-06-10 Thread Darcy James Argue
The triangle in JazzFont is not *that* badly designed. (The diminished circle, on the other hand... oy.) But by far the biggest problem is people not making it large enough (pun unintended). JazzCord suffixes need to be *at least* 24 points, and some of the geometric characters need to be 3

Re: [Finale] Chord notation

2009-06-10 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 10, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: I find the argument that "a triangle is easy to mistake for a circle" a bit ridiculous. If your triangles look like circles, you're doing it wrong. I agree with your last sentence, but take it up with Rich Sigler and people who use t

Re: [Finale] Chord notation

2009-06-10 Thread Darcy James Argue
As Chris says, I find the geometric chord symbols infinitely preferable, as they are instantly recognizable, contain fewer "bits" of information for the brain to process, and are widely prefered in the jazz education market and by jazz musicians under 40. I find the argument that "a triangl

Re: [Finale] Chord notation

2009-06-10 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 10, 2009, at 6:30 AM, dhbailey wrote: Carl Dershem wrote: A triangle over a straight line is easy to mistake in the usually bad light on a bandstand. cd It's also easy to mistake a triangle for a circle in dim light, if the suffixes aren't fairly large. It's so much clearer to

Re: [Finale] Chord notation

2009-06-10 Thread dhbailey
Carl Dershem wrote: A triangle over a straight line is easy to mistake in the usually bad light on a bandstand. cd It's also easy to mistake a triangle for a circle in dim light, if the suffixes aren't fairly large. It's so much clearer to use Maj7, minMaj7, Dim (for full diminished),

Re: [Finale] Chord notation

2009-06-09 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 9, 2009, at 10:40 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: John Spicknall wrote: I know from [non-jazz] friends on this list there is perhaps info about entering chord notation here that is conventional jazz notation--the kind of notation one might find in an Aebersold play-a-long booklet. My use of Fi

Re: [Finale] Chord notation

2009-06-09 Thread Carl Dershem
John Spicknall wrote: I know from [non-jazz] friends on this list there is perhaps info about entering chord notation here that is conventional jazz notation--the kind of notation one might find in an Aebersold play-a-long booklet. My use of Finale is generally limited to jazz lead sheets, trans

[Finale] Chord notation

2009-06-09 Thread John Spicknall
I know from [non-jazz] friends on this list there is perhaps info about entering chord notation here that is conventional jazz notation--the kind of notation one might find in an Aebersold play-a-long booklet. My use of Finale is generally limited to jazz lead sheets, transcriptions, stuff for stu